FL - Mass Shooting at Pulse Nightclub, Orlando 12 June 2016 #4

[Sonya610]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...1963b4-30b8-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html

Here is the debunking of all the media stuff with FBI

He had twice come under investigation by the FBI — once for comments suggesting an affinity for Islamist groups, and a second time for vague connections to another Florida man who traveled to Syria to become a suicide bomber

Neither probe turned up evidence of wrongdoing

Okay, how many here have been investigated for "suggesting" we associate with Islamic Terror groups? (Visiting guests need not reply).

Secondly he DID communicate with Mohammad Abu-Salha. There is no debate about that. He was investigated by the FBI for communicating with the Abu-Salha BUT the FBI could not prove that any of the communications were illegal plots.

No innocent possibly-bi-polar-closeted-homophobe ends up being investigated because he said a whole lot of creepy
"pro-terrorist" things to his friends and THEN gets investigated for his communication with an Al Qaeda suicide bomber!

He was knee deep in the radical mindset. He isn't just a closeted gay guy that decided he wanted to go on a rampage after he went to Disney's Gay Day.

 

[Magdalyn]

No, you aim and fire at your target and then move on to the next target. He had to reload because this was not an automatic rifle. It was a semi-automatic although some in the media are bound and determine to make it an assault rifle even though it wasn't. With the rifle he could pick off someone with accuracy who was many yards away from him.

So, to further clarify, one can not 'spray' bullets out of he 'assault style' rifle he had. Only one cartridge (bullet) can be fired per trigger pull. So to fire 200 'bullets', one must pull the trigger 200 separate times.

 

[wendiesan]

Is it possible that some of the injuries were caused by friendly fire?

 

[passionflower]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...body-kept-away-victims-autopsies-respect.html
very interesting article about respect for the victims

 

[Sonya610]

So, to further clarify, one can not 'spray' bullets out of he 'assault style' rifle he had. Only one cartridge (bullet) can be fired per trigger pull. So to fire 200 'bullets', one must pull the trigger 200 separate times.

Correct. Plus change magazines at least 6 times.

In addition "fully automatic aka spraying fire" is way over rated. Even the military guys that have a "full or semi" setting on their weapons choose semi. Full auto wastes a lot of ammo while scoring less hits in almost any scenario.

 

[katydid23]

Not sure, but just like most Muslims aren't terrorists, most people with bipolar disorder are not violent, not terrorists, not murderers.

of course most people with bipolar are not violent etc. But most terrorists are extremely agitated, obsessive and unhinged. You are not easy going and passive when you decide to kill a crowd of people. So I think many f the previous terrorists have had mental health issues which added to their instability. jmo

 

[Sonya610]

of course most people with bipolar are not violent etc.

However a lot of severe prone to out-of-control behavior bi-polars get involved in various crimes (petty or not so petty).

This guy didn't have a criminal history which makes me think he wasn't just an off the chain bi-polar.

 

[katydid23]

are terrorists mentally ill?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peggy-drexler/are-radicals-mentally-ill_b_8768878.html


Are Radicals Mentally Ill?
12/10/2015 06:59 am ET | Updated Dec 10, 2015

But there’s also another explanation that’s been talked about less, and that’s mental illness. The idea that radicalization may be a mental health disorder, or at the very least linked to one, is just beginning to be examined. A study funded by the U.S. Justice Department found that “lone wolf terrorists,” individuals motivated by the ideology of a certain group who act alone, are prone to mental illness, often acting from some combination of personal grievance and triggering event.

Other studies have suggested that violent radicalization may be related to abnormal personality development during the early years. In one recent study, researchers in the UK looking at ways to understand, and prevent, violent radicalization found a correlation between extremist sympathies and “being young, in full-time education, relative social isolation, and having a tendency towards depressive symptoms.”

 

[Everyday Grace]

Is it possible that some of the injuries were caused by friendly fire?

It is a possibility.

One of the critical tasks in understanding Sunday’s shooting inside an Orlando nightclub involves knowing the history of every bullet that killed 49 people and wounded 53 others.

In a Monday morning news conference, Paul Wysopal, the FBI special agent in charge of the investigation at Pulse — a gay nightclub — said an FBI shooting reconstruction team from Quantico, Virginia, will analyze the shooting scene.

In Monday’s news conference, Orlando Police Chief John Mina said the investigation will determine whether any inside the club were killed by “friendly fire.”

More:
http://wtop.com/national/2016/06/fbi-team-from-quantico-to-reconstruct-orlando-shooting-scene/

 

[human]

or he or a family member could stumble across the wrong website & become self radicalized & murder a bunch of people for allah (US govt says this could happen)

Very respectful comment about the surgeon who spent hours doing the surgeries in the trauma center. NOT?

 

[x_files]

White American Muslims made terroristic threats:
http://www.nwahomepage.com/news/fbi-investigates-nwa-couple-for-terroristic-threatening

 

[human]

Hi Blue

I def think he went into delusionial phases. Telling people that Osama Bin Laden is your uncle is pretty out there.

I also wanna say I think bio dad aint all there either - running for an election that is not happening is pretty out there!!

And that is what I think all the utterings of him and "terror ties" --were. He was in a delsuinial state. There was no consitency at all.

One time he knows the Boston Bombers, then he knows someone involved in Foot Hood. There was another one I can remember.

That is why I think the final 3 911 calls (obviously overloaded on stress and probaly had been drinking) were just hot air.

Blue were you aware that on his phone calls to everyone he could not remember which ISIS faction he was doing this all for ? It was like one call he said Burger King, then the next person he talked to he was doing it for Wendys, and on the final call he was doing it in the name Of Mcdonads.

Obioulsy I am making this up! But Burger is allies with Isreal, Wendys hates the Taliban and Mcdonads is loyal to kingdom cong!!

So much credibility can be given to someone who has no clue who he is willing to die for --- makes totally no sense - and sounds like a pretty chaotic mind at that point! IMO

It would be interesting to note if he drank heavily that night

Actually I know a man who is from a colonized country who says he is the Pres of the country he is working to free from colonization. He is not. He is working to free the country , but he does not have a lot of support from the politicians who line their pockets with millions of dollars, He has met with people from other nations and has had some success. I do not think he is mentally ill. He sees the issues of the people who have been steam rolled by colonization.

I imagine the father wants Afghanistan to have some semblance of order or whatever. A lot of people have feelings for their birth country. And if they could , they would return to their land. Nothing strange about that.

Look at all of the people who do genealogy and go to their roots.

I think if people have had to leave their homeland because of reasons that were not their choice, there remains a longing for the good old days that probably never existed and will not exist again.

Think of the nostalgia many people have for their good old days.

 

[CARIIS]

Please note: I dont like posting when there are no "spaces. So after I posted I did not want to read all the stuff out again- so I just ran through and put spaces in. I am confident you all can tell when I am sharing stuff that crossed my little brain as I learned more and am not trying to make it look like the Post said some of my comments!

life punctuated by many such moments, outbursts when his insecurities and inner conflict erupted into rage

inner conflict seemed to explode again and again — not only at the training academy but also toward classmates, toward co-workers, toward his first wife and finally toward the 49 strangers he left massacred on the bloody floor of the Pulse nightclub.

debunk dad a raging terrorist

“an all-American family,”....

Very acclimated to Western culture :

“They were pretty moderate as Muslims,” she said. “None of the sisters or mom even wore a headscarf like some Muslims do.

unpredictable, angry and sometimes threatening. As Zaidi later recalled, “He had lots of issues for a long time.”

teachers had great difficulty with him.
“I do remember the teachers at the school wanting to get him help .
Mateen’s father dropped his son off at school every day,

What kind of help could that be? Only coclusion IMO is a series of teachers involved with the ill child were aware, via behaviors, that this was a trouble youth.


On Sept. 11, 2001, Mateen was 14 and a sophomore at the Spectrum alternative school, a campus in Stuart, Fla., for students with behavioral issues.
expelled from Martin County High ..... He was charged with battery and disturbing school functions.

claimed that Osama bin Laden was his uncle, said the classmate, whose account was corroborated by others.
. “But he talked about shooting AK-47s. . . .

the teacher grabbed him” and sent him to the dean’s office, he said.
Mateen’s father was called and came to pick him up. “I remember his dad walking up,” the classmate said. “And in the courtyard in front of everyone, the dad slapped him right across the face.”

Any clinican practicing today, when told a child had been whacked in public by law we would have call child protective services. Or risk losing our ability to practice. That is the law. SImply put it is child abuse- peroid. If the parent has no issue whacking their child across the face in public.....................we have a problem

who was overweight, often got picked on.
“He was brutally bullied,” years. “
He’d try to get a seat [on the bus]. Couldn’t get a seat. Someone would slap him on back of head.

Generates a lot of hate, no ISIS stuff himself.
Those who knew Mateen then said they saw nothing to suggest that he was especially religious or observant of his Muslim faith.

“I never saw signs of religious stuff. never saw signs of an extremist ideology and did not believe Mateen could have celebrated 9/11.
“I know Omar liked America,’’ he said. “Omar explained the Muslim religion to me. He didn’t go crazy into it. It was just some of the things his culture does, the food they eat. Nothing radical Islam at all.’’

His parents​

Mateen’s father, grandiose notions of his own influence in Afghanistan and has expressed contradictory views on Afghan politics and the Taliban, e
sometimes posing in military fatigues or acting as if he is the Afghan president.


Barnett Rubin, an Afghanistan specialist at New York University who has served as an adviser to the State Department, described Mateen as “delusional.”
“He has no coherent message,” Barnett said. .........no political significance in Afghanistan.”
......... in private, there were signs of domestic discord. In December 2000


elder Mateen called police to report that during an argument, his wife had cursed at him, pulled his hair and pinched his bicep, leaving a red mark, according to a police report. Shahla Mateen was charged with domestic battery,

(lots of violence growing up)
a young man without much direction.
At the same time, Mateen changed his name. ..... more in keeping with modern Afghan and American style.

......Mateen hung out at the mall with an openly gay former classmate, Samuel King, and many of King’s gay friends.
(Typical age sexual identy develops)

Margaret Barone, a former manager .” She said she and other employees always assumed Mateen was gay.

She remembered Mateen and other employees talking about drugs they had taken and Mateen saying that he had taken ecstasy. ...drink to the point of blacking out.

Violate one of the Muslim rules I think. Defiant.
‘He gets too crazy. He blacks out. He starts fighting. He didn’t care whether he got beat up or killed, the way he was acting.’ ”

He wanted to be a police officer. He seemed almost obsessed by it, Manicky thinking patterns
He enrolled at Indian River Community College with a 2.76 grade-point average, including a C in a class on “deviant behavior.”

lasted only a few months. ....because of the alarming threats he made More impulse control problesm the training academy.

​

out for the gun threat in the jumpy days after the Virginia Tech shooting.
While working as a guard, Mateen was captured on a hidden camera for a 2012 documentary about the BP oil spill. “Everybody’s just out to get paid. ...he said with biting cynicism. “

....he wasn’t quite a police officer, but nobody was pushing him around anymore.
Mateen also found a wife.

Sounds like finding your car keys!
Sitora Yusifiy, a New Jersey real estate agent
Yusifiy said Mateen was not a devout Muslim she never saw signs that he held radical beliefs.


Noor Zahi Salman, ........ethnically diverse, middle-class neighborhood of manicured ranches and split-level homes.
A neighbor recalled Salman as friendly, stylish and outgoing and.... described them as “modern Muslims.”

Remain western lifestyle
......... Salman’s second marriage.

Debunk next rumor

made two religious pilgrimages to Saudi Arabia, in 2011 and 2012, said Saudi Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir on Friday, but “there was nothing derogatory in terms of how” he participated in Muslim rituals.

Second time FBI found nothing.

occasionally attended the Islamic Center of Fort Pierce,son.
“He was the most quiet guy — he never talked to anyone,” “He would come and pray and leave.”

Here comes the increasing depression
University of Florida senior who declined to provide his first name, recalled Mateen as an “aggressive person.”

friends and co-workers wondered whether Mateen was gay. Some simply assumed it.
...... college told the Palm Beach Post that he believed Mateen was gay and that Mateen once tried to pick him up at a bar.


The classmate, who is gay but was not out yet in 2006, go to gay nightclubs after classes. On one such evening, the classmate said,
“He said, ‘Well if you were gay, you would be my type.’
Sexual identity continues to develop


David Gonzalez, 34, a gay man “in a certain way like he wanted me to approach him. He knew I was gay.”

Generally we know when we are being cruised
enraged a few months earlier at the sight of a pair of gay men being affectionate with each other.
“We were in downtown Miami,

I did not realize dad was actually with him. I am gonna show my dad how gay I am not?
.......on gay dating apps such as Jack’d.

Mateen tried to flirt with him but he was not interested. “It was the picture of him wearing a tie,” Cedeno said. “I blocked him.”

My brief exposure to Grindr my 22 year old neidghbor - folks are typically not in ties , trust me!!


In 2013, he told co-workers that he had family connections to al-Qaeda and was a member of Hezbollah

Judgement capabilites declining
To those familiar with the Middle East, those claims are contradictory — the two groups are bitter enemies.

Makes totally no sense! Dont know football but that is like (lets say whoever is doing the superbowl to say your rooting for both teams.

Mateen also told them that he had mutual acquaintances with the Tsarnaev brothers

Delusional -pathological liar?

FBI recording his calls and using confidential informants to gauge whether he had been radicalized.

statements in anger because his co-workers were teasing him about being a Muslim and he felt discriminated against. bureau officials were satisfied that Mateen had “said these things to try to freak out his co-workers,”

Again, just like the 911 stuff, ,media reported this in a totally different. People today still are saying he was connected to Boston guys?

Next FBI an American who flew to Syria in 2014, burned his U.S. passport and blew himself and others up in a suicide operation for an al-Qaeda affiliate.
Officials, however, said they did not find any significant ties

Again media still throwing around he had ties with a suicidal terrorist.
Investigators tracing the *often-conflicting details of Mateen’s life are still struggling with the “why” ’s troubled mind?


The “why” is elusive,
Last Friday, June 10, Mateen went to the Fort Pierce mosque to pray and spent more than an hour there with his 3-year-old son.

Suicide prep ?
terrorist group.
“America and Russia stop bombing the Islamic state,”

Kind of a reasonable request

A PS here! any and all of us IMO, must use labels to organize our world. We live in the North , we are male female, we are of a certain hight, weight, eye color, hair color- just how it works .

 

[HMSHood]

More Omar Mateen's handwriting.

Looking at it, there is no mix use of print and cursive, unlike in other handwritings. It generally angles to the right. Some are straight up.

There is strong and consistent pressure.

 

[HMSHood]

are terrorists mentally ill?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peggy-drexler/are-radicals-mentally-ill_b_8768878.html


Are Radicals Mentally Ill?
12/10/2015 06:59 am ET | Updated Dec 10, 2015

But there’s also another explanation that’s been talked about less, and that’s mental illness. The idea that radicalization may be a mental health disorder, or at the very least linked to one, is just beginning to be examined. A study funded by the U.S. Justice Department found that “lone wolf terrorists,” individuals motivated by the ideology of a certain group who act alone, are prone to mental illness, often acting from some combination of personal grievance and triggering event.

Other studies have suggested that violent radicalization may be related to abnormal personality development during the early years. In one recent study, researchers in the UK looking at ways to understand, and prevent, violent radicalization found a correlation between extremist sympathies and “being young, in full-time education, relative social isolation, and having a tendency towards depressive symptoms.”

I think Omar Mateen is more of a malignant narcissist and psychopath.

He is more like Eric Harris, Elliot Rodger, Andrew Cunanan, Jerry Sandusky, Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, or Saddam Hussein.

 

[HMSHood]

Anthony J. Iantosca Forensic Profile On Omar Mateen

Omar Mateen
Orlando Mass Murder
Profile

6/13/2016

Omar Mateem had some very serious internal emotional/sexual issues. A quick profile on this extremist based on his behavior tells me he was a latent homosexual or a practicing bi-sexual who could not handle his sexual urges. It is what is called being on the "down low." Mateem hated himself for being weak and having or engaging in homosexual activities, fantasies and thoughts. Anyone who has this much haltered for a class, group or race of people has some very serious psychological issues that he could not cope with. He used two or maybe three primitive defense mechanisms to cope with these conflicting emotions.

1) Denial; People use "Denial" in their everyday lives to avoid dealing with painful feelings or areas of their life they don’t wish to admit.

2) Acting Out; is performing an extreme behavior in order to express thoughts or feelings the person feels incapable of otherwise expressing or admitting to.
This extremist wanted to eliminate the very people, I believe he was attracted too. In his warped mind he believed by eliminating the temptation "gays" he would eliminate his homosexual urges and fantasies.

 

[Only4Justice]

It concerns me too. It bothers me when a co-worker is nervous about talking to the IT guy who is from Pakistan and it bothers me when people harass Muslim women on streetcars and in front of schools, and when a grandfather is accosted while walking up the street. It bothers me when Mosques are set on fire, or vandalized, or shot at. None of that does anything to keep people safe. But you're right - fear is cheap to manufacture and it sells.

I have no sympathy for terrorists who behead people, who blow up buildings, or kill 50 people with assault rifles, but I have a great deal of sympathy for Muslims who are on the receiving end of meaningless violence, hate, and suspicion.

JMO

I'm behind. But this bears repeating. Peace.

Sent from my XT1031 using Tapatalk

 

[perfectingpink]

life punctuated by many such moments, outbursts when his insecurities and inner conflict erupted into rage

inner conflict (hate crime IMO)seemed to explode again and again — not only at the training academy but also toward classmates, toward co-workers, toward his first wife and finally toward the 49 strangers he left massacred on the bloody floor of the Pulse nightclub.

debunk dad a raging terrorist

“an all-American family,”....

Very acclimated to Western culture :

“They were pretty moderate as Muslims,” she said. “None of the sisters or mom even wore a headscarf like some Muslims do.

unpredictable, angry and sometimes threatening. As Zaidi later recalled, “He had lots of issues for a long time.”

teachers had great difficulty with him.
“I do remember the teachers at the school wanting to get him help .
Mateen’s father dropped his son off at school every day,


On Sept. 11, 2001, Mateen was 14 and a sophomore at the Spectrum alternative school, a campus in Stuart, Fla., for students with behavioral issues.
expelled from Martin County High ..... He was charged with battery and disturbing school functions.

claimed that Osama bin Laden was his uncle, said the classmate, whose account was corroborated by others.
. “But he talked about shooting AK-47s. . . .

the teacher grabbed him” and sent him to the dean’s office, he said.
Mateen’s father was called and came to pick him up. “I remember his dad walking up,” the classmate said. “And in the courtyard in front of everyone, the dad slapped him right across the face.”

Any clinican practicing today, when told a child had been whacked in public by law we would have call child protective services. Or risk losing our ability to practice. That is the law. SImply put it is child abuse- peroid. If the parent has no issue whacking their child across the face in public.....................we have a problem

who was overweight, often got picked on.
“He was brutally bullied,” years. “
He’d try to get a seat [on the bus]. Couldn’t get a seat. Someone would slap him on back of head.

Generates a lot of hate, no ISIS stuff himself.
Those who knew Mateen then said they saw nothing to suggest that he was especially religious or observant of his Muslim faith.

“I never saw signs of religious stuff. never saw signs of an extremist ideology and did not believe Mateen could have celebrated 9/11.
“I know Omar liked America,’’ he said. “Omar explained the Muslim religion to me. He didn’t go crazy into it. It was just some of the things his culture does, the food they eat. Nothing radical Islam at all.’’

His parents​

Mateen’s father, grandiose notions of his own influence in Afghanistan and has expressed contradictory views on Afghan politics and the Taliban, e
sometimes posing in military fatigues or acting as if he is the Afghan president.


Barnett Rubin, an Afghanistan specialist at New York University who has served as an adviser to the State Department, described Mateen as “delusional.”
“He has no coherent message,” Barnett said. .........no political significance in Afghanistan.”
......... in private, there were signs of domestic discord. In December 2000


elder Mateen called police to report that during an argument, his wife had cursed at him, pulled his hair and pinched his bicep, leaving a red mark, according to a police report. Shahla Mateen was charged with domestic battery,

(lots of violence growing up)
a young man without much direction.
At the same time, Mateen changed his name. ..... more in keeping with modern Afghan and American style.

......Mateen hung out at the mall with an openly gay former classmate, Samuel King, and many of King’s gay friends.
(Typical age sexual identy develops)

Margaret Barone, a former manager .” She said she and other employees always assumed Mateen was gay.

She remembered Mateen and other employees talking about drugs they had taken and Mateen saying that he had taken ecstasy. ...drink to the point of blacking out.

Violate one of the Muslim rules I think. Defiant.
‘He gets too crazy. He blacks out. He starts fighting. He didn’t care whether he got beat up or killed, the way he was acting.’ ”

He wanted to be a police officer. He seemed almost obsessed by it, Manicky thinking patterns
He enrolled at Indian River Community College with a 2.76 grade-point average, including a C in a class on “deviant behavior.”

lasted only a few months. ....because of the alarming threats he made More impulse control problesm the training academy.

​

out for the gun threat in the jumpy days after the Virginia Tech shooting.
While working as a guard, Mateen was captured on a hidden camera for a 2012 documentary about the BP oil spill. “Everybody’s just out to get paid. ...he said with biting cynicism. “

....he wasn’t quite a police officer, but nobody was pushing him around anymore.
Mateen also found a wife.

Sounds like finding your car keys!
Sitora Yusifiy, a New Jersey real estate agent
Yusifiy said Mateen was not a devout Muslim she never saw signs that he held radical beliefs.


Noor Zahi Salman, ........ethnically diverse, middle-class neighborhood of manicured ranches and split-level homes.
A neighbor recalled Salman as friendly, stylish and outgoing and.... described them as “modern Muslims.”

Remain western lifestyle
......... Salman’s second marriage.

Debunk next rumor

made two religious pilgrimages to Saudi Arabia, in 2011 and 2012, said Saudi Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir on Friday, but “there was nothing derogatory in terms of how” he participated in Muslim rituals.

Second time FBI found nothing.

occasionally attended the Islamic Center of Fort Pierce,son.
“He was the most quiet guy — he never talked to anyone,” “He would come and pray and leave.”

Here comes the increasing depression
University of Florida senior who declined to provide his first name, recalled Mateen as an “aggressive person.”

friends and co-workers wondered whether Mateen was gay. Some simply assumed it.
...... college told the Palm Beach Post that he believed Mateen was gay and that Mateen once tried to pick him up at a bar.


The classmate, who is gay but was not out yet in 2006, go to gay nightclubs after classes. On one such evening, the classmate said,
“He said, ‘Well if you were gay, you would be my type.’
Sexual identity continues to develop


David Gonzalez, 34, a gay man “in a certain way like he wanted me to approach him. He knew I was gay.”

Generally we know when we are being cruised
enraged a few months earlier at the sight of a pair of gay men being affectionate with each other.
“We were in downtown Miami,

I did not realize dad was actually with him. I am gonna show my dad how gay I am not?
.......on gay dating apps such as Jack’d.

Mateen tried to flirt with him but he was not interested. “It was the picture of him wearing a tie,” Cedeno said. “I blocked him.”

My brief exposure to Grindr my 22 year old neidghbor - folks are typically not in ties , trust me!!


In 2013, he told co-workers that he had family connections to al-Qaeda and was a member of Hezbollah

Judgement capabilites declining
To those familiar with the Middle East, those claims are contradictory — the two groups are bitter enemies.

Makes totally no sense! Dont know football but that is like (lets say whoever is doing the superbowl to say your rooting for both teams.

Mateen also told them that he had mutual acquaintances with the Tsarnaev brothers

Delusional -pathological liar?

FBI recording his calls and using confidential informants to gauge whether he had been radicalized.

statements in anger because his co-workers were teasing him about being a Muslim and he felt discriminated against. bureau officials were satisfied that Mateen had “said these things to try to freak out his co-workers,”

Again, just like the 911 stuff, ,media reported this in a totally different. People today still are saying he was connected to Boston guys?

Next FBI an American who flew to Syria in 2014, burned his U.S. passport and blew himself and others up in a suicide operation for an al-Qaeda affiliate.
Officials, however, said they did not find any significant ties

Again media still throwing around he had ties with a suicidal terrorist.
Investigators tracing the *often-conflicting details of Mateen’s life are still struggling with the “why” ’s troubled mind?


The “why” is elusive,
Last Friday, June 10, Mateen went to the Fort Pierce mosque to pray and spent more than an hour there with his 3-year-old son.

Suicide prep ?
terrorist group.
“America and Russia stop bombing the Islamic state,”

Kind of a reasonable request

Cariis, may I please have an ounce of your energy? Just an ounce, I am not asking for much!

 

[Everyday Grace]

White American Muslims made terroristic threats:
http://www.nwahomepage.com/news/fbi-investigates-nwa-couple-for-terroristic-threatening

Daphne Crawford initiated a conversation with the woman in which she stated her husband, Alan, would show up with an AK-47 and is a former Navy SEAL, the affidavit states.

http://5newsonline.com/2016/06/16/p...sted-on-suspicion-of-terroristic-threatening/

Having seen her FB page, I'm just gonna leave it there.

 

[Sonya610]

More Omar Mateen's handwriting.

Looking at it, there is no mix use of print and cursive, unlike in other handwritings. It generally angles to the right. Some are straight up.

There is strong and consistent pressure.

Holy sheesh! Thank you for that post!

He writes "law enforcement serving" and then scratches the "serving" part out.

He was enforcing the "law", Sharia law. Period. Simple. Obvious.

It couldn't be more freaking obvious. Yet some still don't get it!

Open your arms to those possibly homophobic-closeted-Islamic-jihadists and let me know how that works out! Some of us won't open our arms or let our right to self defense be compromised.