Federal Indictment: James Burke, Former Suffolk Co PD Chief, December 2015

[DQN]

I believe James Burke Graduated from East Islip High School in 1979. In the center photo he is in the top photo, middle row 3rd from the right. He was also involved in ZERO, NOTHING, no sports or activities in High School. A real slug.

 

[Ray_of_hope]

Burke does have some college degrees. He has a PHD in criminology. A well known expert in burglary, perjury, extortion, and possibly murder. He is working on another doctorate: correctional services as a deterrence to commit crimes.

Yes, merely honorary, but not from accredited institutions ...

 

[Neptune]

See below

For some reason I had to log off in order to read your post.

Sorry to hear it, Seaslug. Your insight was valuable to understand this complex case and your photos provided a lot of context about a place I've never been. Now Tricia's comment "it drives me nuts when posters accuse each other of being LISK -- and just because someone is smart and can piece together information, doesn't mean he's the killer" make sense. I had no idea what she meant by that -- now I do.

I think the person who really knows what is going on is one of the many "guests" on WS LISK threads. It must be satisfying to see for years discussion so myopically focused on a roster of only 3 names associated with May 1, 2010. It would be great to see expanded thinking on this. LISK may have no serial killing proclivities at all and may just need the money he earns from procuring the services of these women and then disposing of their bodies for someone else.

 

[joesmith97]

Let me give you my version of what happened: I don’t believe any of those four kids killed John Pius Jr. I don’t believe Burke was involved. I have a pretty good idea who did it, but that is another story.
Those kids, or most of them were accomplished burglars, the oldest being 17. Ask them today and they will probably deny it. One of those kids told me he was a burglar, and added that Burke was the leader of the gang. He added, Burke was so good at planning the jobs they were never caught. The kid say they did anywhere from 50-100 burglaries. He did so many he could bring me back to the neighborhood and still remember some of the houses and stores he robbed.
The kids peddled drugs. My source said Burke peddled drugs as early as Junior High School.
Most of these kids were bad kids. Don’t know who was good and who was bad, but many of them were bad. So when the time came to pin in on someone…..what the heck put it on the kids because they deserve to go to jail for something.
Two kids ‘confessed’ within weeks. One kid’s confession was taped. Nothing happened. When Tankleff ‘confessed’ they locked him up. These kids they took a pass on.
What I believe happens is Burke does a burglary with another group of kids and gets caught. One of those kids that lived up the block from him is one of the new witnesses in the case. That fellow, a Danny C would go on to commit more crimes and has recently gone to jail and has since been released. Danny and Jimmy are old pals going back in the days.
Jimmy and Danny give a lot of testimony just short of saying the kids confessed to them. They would say: 1. we went to the funeral with our Grateful Dead jackets on. 2. We were laughing at the funeral. 3. When asked why they did it, one kid said what would you do if you were drunk and some kid saw you steal a mini-bike. 4. How are you dealing with the cops? Ans: too much time has gone by and the pigs will never catch us. 5. I was there but didn’t hit the kid, all I did was place his bike against the tree. FALSE! Because when Pius was found the bike was NOT against the tree, it was buried under the leaves. All Burke knew and his criminal pals in the DA office is when the cops got to the body the bike was against the tree and that is what the crime scene photos showed.
IMO, those kids didn’t kill Pius, someone else did and for a different reason.

Is this the new information you had mentioned would arrive sometime soon or is it merely your personal opinions as to what happened?

 

[fred&edna]

I didn't realize Burke's father and grandfather were law enforcement officers.

http://irishecho.com/law-and-order/the-irish-law-order-50/james-burke/

 

[Samantha Spade]

Seaslug, you have contributed a lot to this website. Hang in there.

 

[hawkshaw]

Most of what I wrote is based on testimony, some of it from Burke, and FACT. The part about why he informed is based on conjecture. But it is consistent with why people suddenly come forward and testifies. There was no forensic evidence to support the kids were there or killed the young man.
The individual cases took 11 years to run their course through the criminal justice system. That alone, IMO is reasonable doubt.
One of the kids had his conviction reversed on appeal with a new trial ordered. He had already served 5 years. He was offered a plea to a lesser charge and would be released a short time later after he ‘admitted’ to a crime he probably didn’t commit. Michael and Ryan did 19 and 20 years because they went forward with a new trial……and lost.
Michael’s brother Peter had his conviction tossed and wasn’t retried.
Some of the detectives that worked on the case and now work for Spota as investigators despite the fact they are in their 70’s. On paper they worked for Burke as Burke became the chief investigator. But did they really report to Burke or did they report to Spota and keeping Spota aware of what Burke was doing.
IMO, the unholy alliance between Spota and Burke is pure EVIL.

 

[Neptune]

I believe James Burke Graduated from East Islip High School in 1979. In the center photo he is in the top photo, middle row 3rd from the right. He was also involved in ZERO, NOTHING, no sports or activities in High School. A real slug.

Great find, DQN! Here's what is odd though -- if I'm counting the years correctly. Public records and MSM sources state James Burke is currently 52. The people in the photo graduated Class of 1979 from East Islip. http://eastisliphighschool.net/class-of-1979.html

According to this chart, James Burke would have been 14 or15 years old when he graduated (depending on his birthday).

Jame C. Burke
1964 = Born
1965 = 0/1 (turns 1)
1966 = 1/2 (turns 2)
1967 = 2/3 (etc)
1968 = 3/4
1969 = 4/5
1970 = 5/6
1971 = 6/7
1972 = 7/8
1973 = 8/9
1974 = 9/10
1975 = 10/11
1976 = 11/12
1977 = 12/13
1978 = 13/14
1979 = 14/15 --- Class of 1979
1980 = 15/16
1981 = 16/17
1982 = 17/18
1983 = 18/19
1984 = 19/20
1985 = 20/21
1986 = 21/22
1987 = 22/23
1988 = 23/24
1989 = 24/25
1990 = 25/26
1991 = 26/27
1992 = 27/28
1993 = 28/29
1994 = 29/30
1995 = 30/31
1996 = 31/32
1997 = 32/33
1998 = 33/34
1999 = 34/35
2000 = 35/36
2001 = 36/37
2002 = 37/38
2003 = 38/39
2004 = 39/40
2005 = 40/41
2006 = 41/42
2007 = 42/43
2008 = 43/44
2009 = 44/45
2010 = 45/46
2011 = 46/47
2012 = 47/48
2013 = 48/49
2014 = 49/50
2015 = 50/51
2016 = 51/52 Present age (as of Dec 30, 2016)

 

[hawkshaw]

If you believe what Burke, a proven and admitted liar tells you then I guess his father and grandfather were cops.

The Irish Echo doing a profile on this BUM! Truth be known he might have more Italian blood in his miserable body than he has Irish blood.

I posted an interesting profile of who Burke might really be and the Webmaster took it down because it violated policy. No argument there other than she was wrong. But it is their ballpark, glove, bat and ball while I am just a visitor.

BOTTOM LINE? This Bum may not be who he says he is. My theory based on some information would keep you folks posting for years.

 

[Vapor]

I forget the exact same words burke used, but during one of his final addresses to the suffolk legislature before he was indicted, he was talking about having informants to infiltrate organized crime and the 2 examples he used were the ms13s and the lucchese crime family.. when i read that i almost fell over cause if he has any relation to jimmy the gent burke, its ironic he would say that since jimmy burke worked with paul vario who was a capo in the lucchese crime family. Im stuck on the mob connection and those 2 banana heads, big al and tony, the *advertiser censored* guys who were handling maureen through that guy vips..

 

[joesmith97]

To graduate at 14/15 is really young. I can't imagine this is our Burke. Most people graduate high school at the age 17/18. Unless Burke was smart enough to have been able to graduate 3 years early, but with no signs of extracurricular activity and no formal college degrees, this theory is hard to accept.

 

[relay]

To graduate at 14/15 is really young. I can't imagine this is our Burke. Most people graduate high school at the age 17/18. Unless Burke was smart enough to have been able to graduate 3 years early, but with no signs of extracurricular activity and no formal college degrees, this theory is hard to accept.

Since Burke grew up in Smithtown, NY and graduated high school in 1982, I found this site that lists his name. Just put in his first and last name and it comes up. In order to see more it appears one has be a member of the alumni.

http://smithtownhighschool.org/class-of-1982.html

 

[hawkshaw]

This one is more believable and probably true.

 

[hawkshaw]

You folks remember the story I told you about when they sent an ADA down to Florida with three detectives to pick up a suspect in a string of crime, including two murders? I told you the suspect invoked his right to counsel. Well these same miscreants posing as law enforcement have a secret hideout on Marcus Blvd., Hauppague industrial area specifically to sweep people up so their lawyers cant't find them. The place is called Blue Star. I know people that were brought there and were not so 'fortunate' to have ADA JSP there to speak with them. GIVE ME A BREAK.

 

[DQN]

Great find, DQN! Here's what is odd though -- if I'm counting the years correctly. Public records and MSM sources state James Burke is currently 52. The people in the photo graduated Class of 1979 from East Islip. http://eastisliphighschool.net/class-of-1979.html

According to this chart, James Burke would have been 14 or15 years old when he graduated (depending on his birthday).

Jame C. Burke
1964 = Born
1965 = 0/1 (turns 1)
1966 = 1/2 (turns 2)
1967 = 2/3 (etc)
1968 = 3/4
1969 = 4/5
1970 = 5/6
1971 = 6/7
1972 = 7/8
1973 = 8/9
1974 = 9/10
1975 = 10/11
1976 = 11/12
1977 = 12/13
1978 = 13/14
1979 = 14/15 --- Class of 1979
1980 = 15/16
1981 = 16/17
1982 = 17/18
1983 = 18/19
1984 = 19/20
1985 = 20/21
1986 = 21/22
1987 = 22/23
1988 = 23/24
1989 = 24/25
1990 = 25/26
1991 = 26/27
1992 = 27/28
1993 = 28/29
1994 = 29/30
1995 = 30/31
1996 = 31/32
1997 = 32/33
1998 = 33/34
1999 = 34/35
2000 = 35/36
2001 = 36/37
2002 = 37/38
2003 = 38/39
2004 = 39/40
2005 = 40/41
2006 = 41/42
2007 = 42/43
2008 = 43/44
2009 = 44/45
2010 = 45/46
2011 = 46/47
2012 = 47/48
2013 = 48/49
2014 = 49/50
2015 = 50/51
2016 = 51/52 Present age (as of Dec 30, 2016)

Good Point Neptune, however right click this photo, save it to your computer and zoom in on the J Burke photo, (top photo, middle row, third from the right)That is his smug face just put the gray hair on him. This is East Islip "1979" so this looks like an underclassmen GROUP photo. IN my catholic high school, all underclassmen had group photos taken for the senior year book every year we were in high school.

SO he could have been a frosh or a sophomore in the group photo and the senior photo of 79 could have been a cousin or another James Burke. I would bet dollars to donuts that is him in the group photo what does everyone think?

 

[Ray_of_hope]

One of the adaptations that arises in areas such as New York and Boston is that there are areas of Irish and areas of Italians, etc. When we came to America, we formed area hives of the mother country's culture within cities close to port. Markets and churches reflected the food and religion. Only later did people assimilate and spread, but it was slow and due to numerous sociological phenomenon such as suburban flight with the transportation boom, etc. Sorry, my long preamble is simply to point out that Boston and New York probably have numerous Jim Burke's.

 

[Ray_of_hope]

Good Point Neptune, however right click this photo, save it to your computer and zoom in on the J Burke photo, (top photo, middle row, third from the right)That is his smug face just put the gray hair on him. This is East Islip "1979" so this looks like an underclassmen GROUP photo. IN my catholic high school, all underclassmen had group photos taken for the senior year book every year we were in high school.

SO he could have been a frosh or a sophomore in the group photo and the senior photo of 79 could have been a cousin or another James Burke. I would bet dollars to donuts that is him in the group photo what does everyone think?

Good point, yearbooks where I grew up had all underclassmen in a group photo with a few cameos. Only the seniors were shown individually. You're probably right.

 

[deedee21]

Hawk, I saw you in the Return to Gilgo video. Youtube

 

[Ray_of_hope]

This case is so perplexing. Either local LE stymied the hunt for LISK because they didn't want light shed on corruption which would be an offshoot of the investigation or there was high ranking involvement in the actual crimes. Having JB behind bars is a start to letting some relax a little, but it will probably take more arrests in order for a comfort level to be felt where info will be shared. Maybe there are good people poised and waiting as the walls tumble. I sure hope so and hope it's sooner rather than later for justice for these victims and their families.

 

[maddalena1]

Can anyone tell me James burke's date of birth?

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