GUILTY NM - Victoria Martens, 10, brutally murdered, Albuquerque, 23 Aug 2016 *Arrests* *2 guilty*

[osadelnorte]

Judge sets trial date for Victoria Martens' mother:

http://krqe.com/2017/08/14/motion-hearing-for-three-suspects-in-victoria-martens-case/

 

[osadelnorte]

Victoria Martens' grandparents file lawsuit against Albuquerque Police Department:

http://krqe.com/2017/08/15/victoria-martens-grandparents-file-lawsuit-against-albuquerque-police/

 

[Flatbush]

Victoria Martens' grandparents file lawsuit against Albuquerque Police Department:

http://krqe.com/2017/08/15/victoria-martens-grandparents-file-lawsuit-against-albuquerque-police/

I don't think they should get a dime. This upsets me, as per the article and other accounts THEY, the grandparents knew something was wrong. Little girl suffers unheard of acts and they get money. MO, no.

 

[Meryl12]

These three sociopaths are the result of generational abuse and neglect.
I hope the grandparents do not receive one single dime. :furious:

 

[Knox]

These three sociopaths are the result of generational abuse and neglect.
I hope the grandparents do not receive one single dime. :furious:

Me too!!

I feel the Grandparents were part of the problem. Poor sweet girl, failed by so many in her life.

 

[osadelnorte]

Thursday marks one year since murder of 10-year-old Victoria Martens:

http://krqe.com/2017/08/24/thursday-marks-one-year-since-murder-of-10-year-old-victoria-martens/

 

[janx]

These moral degenerates won't face trial until next year. It will be interesting indeed to see how they try to rat each other out.

Here is a sample of what we're dealing with:

[video=youtube;3gsz9XGYJ4Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gsz9XGYJ4Q[/video]

 

[osadelnorte]

Man suspected of trying to kiss Victoria Martens was accused in kidnapping case:

http://krqe.com/2017/08/31/man-susp...toria-martens-was-accused-in-kidnapping-case/

 

[gitana1]

These moral degenerates won't face trial until next year. It will be interesting indeed to see how they try to rat each other out.

Here is a sample of what we're dealing with:

[video=youtube;3gsz9XGYJ4Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gsz9XGYJ4Q[/video]

Just ridiculous. She acts like sliding off a balcony and hurting her leg are exciting things. And her stupid friend, "Tsk. they;re so stoopid." Because they reported her jumping off a balcony.

But her friend who raped and helped murder a child? Not "stooopid" at all.

She will do quite well in prison. She acts like this is routine for her.

 

[gitana1]

here's another. She acts like it;s a walk in the park to be arrested. It's a way of life for this : [video=youtube;0jr7sCLsdPs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jr7sCLsdPs[/video]

 

[gitana1]

Here are the grandparents, who well know their daughter confessed to enjoying watching her kids being raped: [video=youtube;Q0LYocNU86o]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0LYocNU86o[/video]

 

[Knox]

Here are the grandparents, who well know their daughter confessed to enjoying watching her kids being raped: [video=youtube;Q0LYocNU86o]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0LYocNU86o[/video]

In addition to your video gitana1 http://krqe.com/2017/08/31/man-susp...toria-martens-was-accused-in-kidnapping-case/ -and- http://www.koat.com/article/city-fi...tens-grandparents-file-civil-lawsuit/12479686

I've long had an opinion of the Grandparents which TOS does not permit me to express. I will say this; the taped calls with their daughter speak volumes to me. I hope they don't profit from the WDL, which I understand is now in Federal court.

 

[Knox]

Target 7 also found court records that show days after Victoria's death, Victoria’s uncle filed court records so he could represent Victoria's estate and file a wrongful death lawsuit. That case was dismissed in October.

This week, her grandparents filed a lawsuit of their own.
http://www.koat.com/article/victori...tough-questions-after-filing-lawsuit/12022853

 

[georgiajean]

DNA evidence being tested out of state with new technology which can help deal with the mixing of 4 different DNAs.
http://www.koat.com/article/dna-evidence-in-victoria-martens-case-being-tested-out-of-state/13869298

 

[georgiajean]

JK should have been in jail for drug charges when Victoria was murdered, but the DA sat on it for over 8 months.
https://www.abqjournal.com/1090634/victoria-martens-murder-suspect-could-have-been-in-prison.html

 

[Blair]

Here is an article that I found, about a month old now, which sheds a lot of doubt (SHOCKING, I know) on what these three... I have no acceptable words. On what & who MM, FG, and JK claim to have done & seen doing on the night that VM was killed.

http://www.koat.com/article/phone-s...t-on-night-of-victoria-martens-death/13518387

The more I read about this case, the more I am utterly convinced that MM intentionally surrounded herself in a cesspool of drug-addled losers and child rapists. And that all these family members and neighbors who claim to have not understood how this could have happened to such a "normal" family are deluding themselves or incapable of taking any accountability for what happened to this little girl. There's just way too... much.

Also imagine going on Facebook to look at pictures of your children hours after murdering one of them. Ugh.

 

[Blair]

And also this, which I personally had not heard about until this -- the FBI investigating a possible 4th adult present in the home on the night of Victoria's murder.

https://www.abqjournal.com/1091395/was-a-4th-person-at-scene-of-victorias-murder.html

For some reason, I assumed the 4 DNA type analysis mentioned in the article above was for VM and the three named murderers. I hadn't realized a fourth person was considered a possible suspect or at least believed to have possibly been in the home that night, if not involved in the crime. He's named in the article as a meth dealer known to JK *and* known to the FBI through an informant. Interesting.

What do you all think of this? I can absolutely believe that there was a 4th adult present in the home on the day of the murder and that he sold the adults meth. But -- maybe I'm underestimating this trio of morons -- it's a little harder for me to believe he participated *in the murder* but hasn't been named yet. None of these three have done much to make me think they have the sense to keep an entire person out of the investigation, but perhaps there is a serious fear of reprisal and that's why they have not turned on him?

 

[Knox]

And also this, which I personally had not heard about until this -- the FBI investigating a possible 4th adult present in the home on the night of Victoria's murder.

https://www.abqjournal.com/1091395/was-a-4th-person-at-scene-of-victorias-murder.html

For some reason, I assumed the 4 DNA type analysis mentioned in the article above was for VM and the three named murderers. I hadn't realized a fourth person was considered a possible suspect or at least believed to have possibly been in the home that night, if not involved in the crime. He's named in the article as a meth dealer known to JK *and* known to the FBI through an informant. Interesting.

What do you all think of this? I can absolutely believe that there was a 4th adult present in the home on the day of the murder and that he sold the adults meth. But -- maybe I'm underestimating this trio of morons -- it's a little harder for me to believe he participated *in the murder* but hasn't been named yet. None of these three have done much to make me think they have the sense to keep an entire person out of the investigation, but perhaps there is a serious fear of reprisal and that's why they have not turned on him?

Unless that 4th person is not part of the "pact" and can shed some light on what happened that night? Maybe things the others don't want repeated to LE.

 

[thescreaming]

Unless that 4th person is not part of the "pact" and can shed some light on what happened that night? Maybe things the others don't want repeated to LE.

I can't imagine what they wouldn't want repeated to LE, considering just how detailed they were about what happened to Victoria.

 

[Auntisemantic]

i was a CO for years and years. the other inmates do not like kiddie diddlers, but they usually are housed with other short eyes. there is also whole separate prisons for sex offenders.

the one misconception though is other inmates do not care about spouse abusers. they aren't even housed separate. some don't even really care about spouse killers, unfortunately.

This. Prisoners who have raped and murdered are not who I want delivering 'justice'. What about justice for *their* victims? While I wouldn't ever shed tears for these monsters I also wouldn't cheer for any rapist murderer fellow prisoners either.

Plus I doubt as many (violent) prisoners really care about child victims as we like to think. I think prisoners just hate high

Oh, yes they do!