Aruba - Natalee Holloway, 18, Oranjestad, 30 May 2005 #2

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Smallfox said:
I'm thinking scam the more I read. Just read where some are offering to send Gabriel money, "just as soon as she knows where to send it." This is not a rumour.....I just read the offer.
Worrisome........
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Gabriel also has a daughter that needs an operation from a cancer. He set up a Gofund me page specifically to help his daughter and has been thanking people who have contributed to it. I also was on his fb page and I thought she was referring to his account to help his daughter.
 
John tried to kill himself by eating Oleander leaves
he's is admitted into the hospital they are keeping him.
I have no link this was given to me in a tweet Also read it on Gabriel page this morning 'Not sure if it's a scam for John to get money for his information would he go that far?
 
Just when you think this whole situation couldn't get anymore insane, something even more crazy happen. Does anyone else think John and Gabriel have an intimate relationship? How are these two even friends? I've been watching the show and nothing seems "right". The trip to New Orleans, the trip to Aruba. How does John think Gabriel is getting this money for extravagant trips?
 
heavenly2012 said:
Gabriel also has a daughter that needs an operation from a cancer. He set up a Gofund me page specifically to help his daughter and has been thanking people who have contributed to it. I also was on his fb page and I thought she was referring to his account to help his daughter.
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I am aware that Gabriel's daughter is supposed to have cancer. I have only seen that statement once and don't know anymore about it. Now, John has eaten Oleander leaves. This is where I saw the offer of money being given to Gabriel......when they were talking about John trying to commit suicide not when it was about Gabriel's daughter.

It just seems like it is one 'crisis' after another;

They find a place that could be a grave.
Whoops, it's the wrong place. Found another place.
They found bones (could be animal bones).
They are human bones.
Gabriel is sick of John.
Gabriel has had enough and is quitting.
Gabriel will not work with T.J. (yet he supposedly knows where Natalie is and won't tell Dave because Dave will tell T.J. IF GABRIEL TRULY CARED AND THINKS DAVE SHOULD GET HIS DAUGHTER BACK, GABRIEL WOULD TELL DAVE WHERE SHE IS AND BE DONE WITH THIS. But no, he has to drag it out more)
Gabriel needs money. (just hints at this time)
Gabriel's daughter has cancer. (hints for money)
John 'tries' to commit suicide.

It just goes on and on. On Gabriel's FB page women are all over him....."we support you!! Don't give up!! You shouldn't be charged but John should." BUT HE WON'T GIVE UP THE INFO OF WHERE NATALIE IS!!

It all sounds like a big, crappy mess.
 
G: But anyways they were also asking me about
what hospital John is
and all that
a lot of people were you know were telling me
well, his mom and dad want to keep it secret
basically they want to keep it private
the mom and dad are very pissed off and angry....
So you know John is like I said he went to a hospital
to get checked out make sure that whatever
he ate is taken out of his stomach
or his system
And then from there he was going to a mental institution
to get evaluated you know see how crazy he is
or whatever and you know
then after that then
They're gonna release him
Because you know he has to pay for what he has done
 
heavenly2012 said:
Gabriel also has a daughter that needs an operation from a cancer. He set up a Gofund me page specifically to help his daughter and has been thanking people who have contributed to it. I also was on his fb page and I thought she was referring to his account to help his daughter.
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If this Gabriel person is a registered resident of Aruba, he and his daughter will have health insurance. Aruba has national statutory mutual insurance.
The Aruban regulations stipulate that if the treatment is not available on the island, the mutual fund will decide where the sick person will be treated: Curacao, the Netherlands, Venezuela (not so much nowadays) USA or Colombia.
 
Heyya ZaZara
IDK
G refers to himself as Mexican American
 
-58:57

https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/teamgabe?source=feed_text&story_id=1929525480592322

G: Like he said
he broke the body up
This is what actually happened
VDS and John
grabbed the body
They bring it down
early morning hours
It was dark
They leave the body in the back patio
It was all in a blue tarp
And inside that tarp
was Natalee in a burlap
She was never buried in the ground
Ever
Ever guys
Ever
So this is gruesome alright
What I'm about to tell you guys is gruesome
So this is what happens
John was hurting so bad for ...
.... so John was hurting so bad for drugs
That, that, uhm, he did, he did it
He helped VDS
Guess what they did
They came down
and then they went ahead and grabbed a sledge hammer
and they broke her
before they did that
they grabbed the sledge hammer
busted this bone right here
[points to front of neck]

And she had her hair
they grabbed it and they put it in a
pack sack, like a little bag
Then they went to John's Aunt's house
Remember this is a rental property
They went to the Aunt's house
And about 150, 200 feet
They went back there
And they made a fire 'cause
John, Madisson and John
used to smoke weed back there
So they went back there
and, uh, they started a fire
which I got pictures guys
I have pictures
of the original place
and it's not a cave it's like
its like,
he was, he was high that night
but it was like a, like a
canopy of tress just overgrown like this [gestures]
And to him it sounded like a cave
So they grabbed her head
They built a fire
They put the fire there
This is really discusting
And there was still pieces of flesh like
here on her side and like back right here
[points to face and neck]
There was pieces of flesh
and they burned all that off
Once they hair came all burnt out
And then they grabbed it and......
....So after they burned the skull
for they burn her hair they burn all
the flesh that was
She was like mummified
And after they burned all that
Then they grabbed the skull
They put it back in the back sack
And they take off to the Aunt's house
The other Aunt's rental propery
They go back there
And they, they put a canvas
that his, VDS got from his mom
And they put the burlap
and uh well they open the burlap
I'm sorry cause it
was all rotted and uhm you could see
John said you could see Natalee folded
her
to her oroginal
This is gruesome
to her original stage
and uhm then
They grabbed a sledge hammer
a sledge hammer and a pick
For seven hours these animals
For seven hours they pounded that body to pieces
For seven hours, seven long hours
they pounded her
You know how sick they are to do this
You know how sick VDS and John
How sick they are
to do what they did
I mean,.... it's unexplainable
Now what did they do with her rest of her remains
....
Now her rest of her remains have pieces
of dead, of dried flesh
John did specify that
dried flesh
and they put her in a box
I can't tell you more
Where they put her
I can't, Uhm,
I really can't
Do I know, I have a good idea,
good idea
Would I tell TJ, Hell no
He can go try and find it himself
And, but anyways so
John tells me all this
It was nasty, it was nasty
Now where did they put this
According to TJ she was,
she was thrown in
the ocean because his voice analysis says that
A Lie
So now you guys have seen that the
cremation is a lie
......
So it was crazy, how all this, what happened to her that night
And these guys just went to a party, like nothing, like nothing
So after that, they, they took the remains
and they went ahead and put it somewhere
All her other remains
Now how did I get those
other remains
I can't say till part six.
"40 per cent truth, 60 per cent lies"
 
Tadpole12 said:
-58:57

https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/teamgabe?source=feed_text&story_id=1929525480592322

G: Like he said
he broke the body up
This is what actually happened
VDS and John
grabbed the body
They bring it down
early morning hours
It was dark
They leave the body in the back patio
It was all in a blue tarp
And inside that tarp
was Natalee in a burlap
She was never buried in the ground
Ever
Ever guys
Ever
So this is gruesome alright
What I'm about to tell you guys is gruesome
So this is what happens
John was hurting so bad for ...
.... so John was hurting so bad for drugs
That, that, uhm, he did, he did it
He helped VDS
Guess what they did
They came down
and then they went ahead and grabbed a sledge hammer
and they broke her
before they did that
they grabbed the sledge hammer
busted this bone right here
[points to front of neck]

And she had her hair
they grabbed it and they put it in a
pack sack, like a little bag
Then they went to John's Aunt's house
Remember this is a rental property
They went to the Aunt's house
And about 150, 200 feet
They went back there
And they made a fire 'cause
John, Madisson and John
used to smoke weed back there
So they went back there
and, uh, they started a fire
which I got pictures guys
I have pictures
of the original place
and it's not a cave it's like
its like,
he was, he was high that night
but it was like a, like a
canopy of tress just overgrown like this [gestures]
And to him it sounded like a cave
So they grabbed her head
They built a fire
They put the fire there
This is really discusting
And there was still pieces of flesh like
here on her side and like back right here
[points to face and neck]
There was pieces of flesh
and they burned all that off
Once they hair came all burnt out
And then they grabbed it and......
....So after they burned the skull
for they burn her hair they burn all
the flesh that was
She was like mummified
And after they burned all that
Then they grabbed the skull
They put it back in the back sack
And they take off to the Aunt's house
The other Aunt's rental propery
They go back there
And they, they put a canvas
that his, VDS got from his mom
And they put the burlap
and uh well they open the burlap
I'm sorry cause it
was all rotted and uhm you could see
John said you could see Natalee folded
her
to her oroginal
This is gruesome
to her original stage
and uhm then
They grabbed a sledge hammer
a sledge hammer and a pick
For seven hours these animals
For seven hours they pounded that body to pieces
For seven hours, seven long hours
they pounded her
You know how sick they are to do this
You know how sick VDS and John
How sick they are
to do what they did
I mean,.... it's unexplainable
Now what did they do with her rest of her remains
....
Now her rest of her remains have pieces
of dead, of dried flesh
John did specify that
dried flesh
and they put her in a box
I can't tell you more
Where they put her
I can't, Uhm,
I really can't
Do I know, I have a good idea,
good idea
Would I tell TJ, Hell no
He can go try and find it himself
And, but anyways so
John tells me all this
It was nasty, it was nasty
Now where did they put this
According to TJ she was,
she was thrown in
the ocean because his voice analysis says that
A Lie
So now you guys have seen that the
cremation is a lie
......
So it was crazy, how all this, what happened to her that night
And these guys just went to a party, like nothing, like nothing
So after that, they, they took the remains
and they went ahead and put it somewhere
All her other remains
Now how did I get those
other remains
I can't say till part six.
"40 per cent truth, 60 per cent lies"
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How sad. Thanks for posting this.


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Just catching up on videos, Dave says he's not stopping until he gets justice for Natalee. I'm all for it, go for it Dave, you deserve it.
 
I'm still in the midst of the latest episode. I'm just curious though , they're talking about bring charges against John and Gabriel. So I'm just assuming that these two clowns went along with this in order to have lesser sentences? Initially I thought they were doing it for the award money, now I'm totally not sure what's going on. I'll finish watching , maybe some answers?
 
Something else, how / why would Gabriel do this for no money? Why wouldn't they have paid him something? So weird.
 
G, in his September 15 at 4:10pm FB video,
says he signed a release not a contract.
?
The disappearance of NH produced by Brian Graden Media
 
[video=youtube;egrh9QovCQg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egrh9QovCQg[/video]

Urataka Center, Aruba


@ 2:07 Communications tower
@ 2:28 Taco Bell. KFC McD Catholic church and cemetary
@ 3:02 right turn, to National Park. MUNDO NOBO
@3:27 right turn see Water Tower in distance
@3:48 Urataka Center, hydro line
 
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