FL - Manhunt in Tampa after 4 slayings in 5 weeks, Oct-Nov 2017 #1

[her]

After sleeping on it, then watching the video this morning. It looks like a <modsnip> or drag queen. The build is tall,and masculine, (with a hint of breast maybe) but the walk. It's like a catwalk strut, with a hint of a sashay. Not to much don't want to be too obvious. ( Do drag show judges knock off points for that?)
That would certainly qualify as a marginalized person. Even in a diverse area.

just was going to say the same thing

 

[borndem]

After sleeping on it, then watching the video this morning. It looks like a <modsnip> or drag queen. The build is tall,and masculine, (with a hint of breast maybe) but the walk. It's like a catwalk strut, with a hint of a sashay. Not to much don't want to be too obvious. ( Do drag show judges knock off points for that?)
That would certainly qualify as a marginalized person. Even in a diverse area.

bbm

Yes, I immediately noticed the breast area, too, and wondered if the person was female, or if it was a buff male with well-developed pec muscles.

I am still skeptical that the individual in the pic is our perp. I think it's a "shoot & scoot" type attack. Car parked nearby, or a shooting from a moving car. With the increased LE in the area and the residents on alert, will s/he go to another area or devise another way of attack; or will s/he find a new neighborhood to terrify? If this person fits the SK mode, s/he won't stop lurking and killing.

 

[dotr]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/grieving-dad-find-shooter-stalking-tampa-residents-n813291
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Grieving Dad: Find Shooter Stalking Tampa Residents

by Kerry Sanders, Tracy Connor and Kalhan Rosenblatt
TAMPA, Fla. — Sitting outside a funeral home with his daughter's ashes, Kenny Hoffa pleaded for information that would lead police to a shooter who may be responsible for a series of three seemingly random murders in Tampa.

"There's some psycho out there putting other people through this pain and suffering I'm going through," Hoffa told NBC News on Monday. "I don't know why he feels the need to go out and senselessly murder people in the street, shoot them down like they're dogs."

"But someone knows who he is," he added. "And they need to tell the police."

Clint Van Zandt, a former FBI profiler and NBC News criminal analyst, said in the early days of an investigation like this, police try to rule out motives like drugs or robbery and hunt for anything the victims could have in common. They will comb through older crimes to see if any of them fit the pattern, and they will broaden the search beyond Tampa, he said.

"Normally when something like this happens, a serial offender would start out in neighborhood or community he's comfortable in — a place he knows the way in and out — and that territory may expand as he becomes more emboldened," he said.

Enzo Yaksic, who tracks data on serial homicides at Northeastern University, said the indiscriminate nature of the shootings could point to gang initiation rituals, but could also be the handiwork of a modern serial killer.

"The recent crop of serial murderers with anger-based motives strive to exact revenge on society with quick bursts of violence often within a tight geographic area aimed at those readily available to them," he said.

"You know when animals sense fear, it gives them power, " she said. "So I look at this this way — the community is fearful, which I can understand...but at the same time you're feeding that fear to them and it's giving [the shooter] a sense of power to control everyone and do whatever they want."

 

[Eileen730]

I think it is a young man.

 

[AC's Grandma]

The FBI is involved because at this point they are calling the perp a serial killer and they have the best profilers available. I think it's a male.

 

[liz b.]

The FBI is involved because at this point they are calling the perp a serial killer and they have the best profilers available. I think it's a male.

Turns out the FBI was involved quite early. Not sure LE is 100 % on the serial killer theory yet though..I read an article today that said LE is escorting and watching kids at their bus stops. Kids. Something really serious going on, I think...Scary...

I think this is somehow connected to Hallowe'en...don't know how. jmo

 

[whitelilac]

This is awful.....
So this person has not come forward that we know of.

Someone knows this person...he ( I believe it's a young male too) doesn't live in a vacuum. I hope there are good tips being investigated.

 

[Hazelnutty]

Effeminate male. Stilted stroll. Odd. JMO

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[Seryth]

[video=youtube;4HapAvjn8Kg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HapAvjn8Kg&feature=youtu.be[/video]


I've quickly enhanced the video as much as I can in the brief time I spent on it tonight. I've got a busy week ahead but if I get any free time I may try to sharpen it up a bit more; at the moment it's really not great, but more time spent on it would help - I'd really like to see if I can get any more detail from certain bits; certainly whatever is pulled out of the right pocket at 11.500 (my timecode, bottom right of video).

- It looks like it could be a small handgun at 00:11:500, that is then 'twirled' cowboy style? Then looks like perhaps the person is holding whatever it is close to themself. Perhaps to hide it? Whatever it is, I don't think they're looking at it like one would if reading off a mobile phone. They seem to be looking right ahead/to the sides. However all that said, it could easily be a mobile phone. I twirl my phone like that all the time. As if it was a fidget spinner.

- Also looks like the person may be wearing a scarf of some sort over their mouth? 20:700. See attached screenshot.

- From the colour CCTV footage (26:500) it looks like the long garment is a glossy sheen. Like a long waterproof mac? See attached picture. I can't tell, but perhaps it has a label on the left upper bum area, which is the reflective square we see in the final clip (around 38:00 onwards you can see it clearly).
I can't tell what is being held in this clip - if it is a phone giving off it's own light, or if it's the same thing as in the first clip, and it's simply reflecting the light into the camera.

I also think it's a man.

Thoughts?

 

[liz b.]

[video=youtube;4HapAvjn8Kg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HapAvjn8Kg&feature=youtu.be[/video]


I've quickly enhanced the video as much as I can in the brief time I spent on it tonight. I've got a busy week ahead but if I get any free time I may try to sharpen it up a bit more; at the moment it's really not great, but more time spent on it would help - I'd really like to see if I can get any more detail from certain bits; certainly whatever is pulled out of the right pocket at 11.500 (my timecode, bottom right of video).

- It looks like it could be a small handgun at 00:11:500, that is then 'twirled' cowboy style? Then looks like perhaps the person is holding whatever it is close to themself. Perhaps to hide it? Whatever it is, I don't think they're looking at it like one would if reading off a mobile phone. They seem to be looking right ahead/to the sides. However all that said, it could easily be a mobile phone. I twirl my phone like that all the time. As if it was a fidget spinner.

- Also looks like the person may be wearing a scarf of some sort over their mouth? 20:700. See attached screenshot.

- From the colour CCTV footage (26:500) it looks like the long garment is a glossy sheen. Like a long waterproof mac? See attached picture. I can't tell, but perhaps it has a label on the left upper bum area, which is the reflective square we see in the final clip (around 38:00 onwards you can see it clearly).
I can't tell what is being held in this clip - if it is a phone giving off it's own light, or if it's the same thing as in the first clip, and it's simply reflecting the light into the camera.

I also think it's a man.

Thoughts?

I think it's a cell phone,but jmo. Now that the vid is enhanced, it looks to me like she/he is wearing a scarf draped over their head and shoulders. On their head is some type of skull cap ? And the scarf is draped over that. It wasn't raining that night ? Still not sure, but in this video the person walks more like a male. jmo Yes, it does look like the scarf is covering their mouth. Nice job on the enhancement. thanks.

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

Pidgeon-toed, flat-footed, athletic

Moo

 

[jdrive]

[video=youtube;4HapAvjn8Kg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HapAvjn8Kg&feature=youtu.be[/video]


I've quickly enhanced the video as much as I can in the brief time I spent on it tonight. I've got a busy week ahead but if I get any free time I may try to sharpen it up a bit more; at the moment it's really not great, but more time spent on it would help - I'd really like to see if I can get any more detail from certain bits; certainly whatever is pulled out of the right pocket at 11.500 (my timecode, bottom right of video).

- It looks like it could be a small handgun at 00:11:500, that is then 'twirled' cowboy style? Then looks like perhaps the person is holding whatever it is close to themself. Perhaps to hide it? Whatever it is, I don't think they're looking at it like one would if reading off a mobile phone. They seem to be looking right ahead/to the sides. However all that said, it could easily be a mobile phone. I twirl my phone like that all the time. As if it was a fidget spinner.

- Also looks like the person may be wearing a scarf of some sort over their mouth? 20:700. See attached screenshot.

- From the colour CCTV footage (26:500) it looks like the long garment is a glossy sheen. Like a long waterproof mac? See attached picture. I can't tell, but perhaps it has a label on the left upper bum area, which is the reflective square we see in the final clip (around 38:00 onwards you can see it clearly).
I can't tell what is being held in this clip - if it is a phone giving off it's own light, or if it's the same thing as in the first clip, and it's simply reflecting the light into the camera.

I also think it's a man.

Thoughts?

Wow. The enhancement makes a big difference. Good work. The reflection on the left side of the jacket now looks to me like a book or maybe an iPad in a large pocket, bouncing when he walks. That might also explain the slight assymetry to the gait if something heavy is on one side? And the thing in his hand is more clearly a phone in this version. I also see what others are saying about possible scarf or bandanna on lower part of face.

 

[SeesSeas]

http://www.tampabay.com/news/public...ders-fear-and-warnings-but-no-answers/2342124
Seminole Heights murders: fear and warnings, but no answers
[FONT=&amp]Monday, October 23, 2017 10:00pm[/FONT]
[...]
Authorities are employing other methods to keep the public safe. In an effort to make it harder for anyone to hide in the area, city crews have been removing debris from alleys and unkept shrubbery around the neighborhood, the mayor said, and TECO crews are working to replace street lights. Dugan added that his officers have given out 82 porch lightbulbs and are ready to give out more to those who need them.

The chief again reminded people to stay vigilant and report anything suspicious, no matter how small those details may be. Dugan also asked the crowd not to "hunker down" for Halloween, saying that he and his officers will be out in force that night.
[...]

 

[liz b.]

I've seen a few reports that say that a man in a black jacket was seen running away from the Benjamin Mitchell shooting ? It didn't sound like the person on the video ? Have also seen the person on the video described as a witness.

 

[bears10]

I just read thru the thread. How scary. The surveillance video sent chills down my spine for some reason. I don’t live anywhere near Florida but I’m creeped out. Stay safe Florida peeps. Hope they catch this person before they can do anymore harm.

JMO but I also thing the person in the video may be pigeon toed.

 

[dotr]

[video=youtube;6-vxXw0Y7hE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-vxXw0Y7hE[/video]

 

[Rebekka]

JMO person lives at midway point between shootings on the map shown in first or second post. Cell phone taken from pocket placed to ear. Light in back seems to be a reflection on the material of the jacket and not sure but might be wearing flip-flops or some other kind of slipper. Seems androgynous

 

[Hatfield]

I've seen a few reports that say that a man in a black jacket was seen running away from the Benjamin Mitchell shooting ? It didn't sound like the person on the video ? Have also seen the person on the video described as a witness.

At the 26 mark on the video it changes to what I think is a color video for a few seconds and it appears that his jacket is sort of black colored afterall.

When its in the other mode he looks to be mostly white colored clothing but I think it is the black and white video playing tricks on us. That short spot where the color comes in gives what I think is the most realistic colors he had on. The jacket appears to be a black or very dark grey color.

So this guy could possibly match that other reporting you may have seen.

 

[Third Coast Gal]

[video=youtube;4HapAvjn8Kg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HapAvjn8Kg&feature=youtu.be[/video]


I've quickly enhanced the video as much as I can in the brief time I spent on it tonight. I've got a busy week ahead but if I get any free time I may try to sharpen it up a bit more; at the moment it's really not great, but more time spent on it would help - I'd really like to see if I can get any more detail from certain bits; certainly whatever is pulled out of the right pocket at 11.500 (my timecode, bottom right of video).

- It looks like it could be a small handgun at 00:11:500, that is then 'twirled' cowboy style? Then looks like perhaps the person is holding whatever it is close to themself. Perhaps to hide it? Whatever it is, I don't think they're looking at it like one would if reading off a mobile phone. They seem to be looking right ahead/to the sides. However all that said, it could easily be a mobile phone. I twirl my phone like that all the time. As if it was a fidget spinner.

- Also looks like the person may be wearing a scarf of some sort over their mouth? 20:700. See attached screenshot.

- From the colour CCTV footage (26:500) it looks like the long garment is a glossy sheen. Like a long waterproof mac? See attached picture. I can't tell, but perhaps it has a label on the left upper bum area, which is the reflective square we see in the final clip (around 38:00 onwards you can see it clearly).
I can't tell what is being held in this clip - if it is a phone giving off it's own light, or if it's the same thing as in the first clip, and it's simply reflecting the light into the camera.

I also think it's a man.

Thoughts?

Great work, thank you. This makes a big difference.

 

[liz b.]

At the 26 mark on the video it changes to what I think is a color video for a few seconds and it appears that his jacket is sort of black colored afterall.

When its in the other mode he looks to be mostly white colored clothing but I think it is the black and white video playing tricks on us. That short spot where the color comes in gives what I think is the most realistic colors he had on. The jacket appears to be a black or very dark grey color.

So this guy could possibly match that other reporting you may have seen.

I thought that the video was distorting the colors. Interesting if it is him.