I apologize for the shape this is in! These were very rough notes and I heard part of PB's call but wasn't able to take notes at the time.
Hes thesweetest 5 year old boy youll ever meet. A little something extra there with him. Gets compliments from strangers on his eye lashes.
Momma freckles came from momma
This little piggy on his toes
Very outgoing, loves making friends, loves all of his family
Almost positive, he wants to be like his Daddy when he grows up
Hes a goofball, hes so silly, hell have you in tears
I wish everyone could have been met him
Hes a fighter, he fought for his life
Im literally stuck in limbo. Going through a living hell. Support system? Theres been a dozen or more random strangers reached out to her and lied, speculations
JO has Brother and SIL.
JO left KC to move to Oklahoma with her best friend. Less than 24 hours, she got a call from Wichita Police Dept.
Very last thing she said to her boy Everything was going to be okay, Mommas gonna get it taken care of. Thats hard and its gonna eat at me for the rest of my life. Nobody thinks its going to happen to them. It feels like Im living what I watch on the news every evening.
Theres nothing that can be done now thats going to bring my boy back.
Are you giving up hope? You dont know me, you dont know the back story
day 2 here once I saw the whole block, barricaded off that is the very day I accepted it Lucas is not with us any longer.
Wichita called me first; Emily was trying to pin it on me. They wanted to know where I was.
Got a ride from someone on Craigslist 5AM the next morning the next call I got was the FBI.
Im not shocked FBI was there in 2 hours.
There were several reports filed with child services. Why they were dismissed, I cant tell you.
First time I seen it was when my son was dropped off in filthy clothes, 2 black eyes and bruises all over his body. What did he say? Emily didnt like him.
During all this time, did you ever talk to jonathan. Definitely, I reached out to his ex-stepmother and finally got ahold of jonathan. He fell off the back of the couch, then found out jonathan wasnt even there.
Every single picture weve seen online, I took every single one.
How did she and Jonathan meet? I cant remember what month or year. After Jonathan and I broke up, we continued to see each other. It was hot out, may, june, july. Spent the weekend in NM, right then Emily was in his life. She came along with trash bags of clothes.
Jonathan took the first thing that came along. He could have just as easily had enrolled in NM, he and I were on good terms. 50/50 custody of Lucas, but at Jonathans discretion. I was going through deep **** at the time.
I knew they fought constantly. There was always something going on she was always in a ****** mood, saying stuff to me. I dont know her. I dont know anything about her. She has no friends. All the information you have gathered on her is probably more than I know. I didnt know that she didnt have custody of her children. I had no idea. And then the police reports came out and I had no idea it was that bad. Jonathans a c%$ksucker but he has never hit me.
Definitely Jonathan defending himself. Ive known jonathan for years. We talked for 1 -2 years before we ever met in person. I asked him, What does she have on you? And its not something small, because hes not stupid by any means.
Theres one thing I need to know. A location.
Absolutely. We all know who the accomplice would be, which is the cousin, Kristin. Thats the only other person she talked to, she had no friends.
The fb groups and everything. She literally makes up lies to try to push blame on me and take it off Emily.
I dont think about it. I know hes gone. I just want my boy.
Shes lazy. No more than 100 ft from a roadway. FBI did their own analysis.
Search efforts? If not every day, then several times a week. I can no longer attend because if I were to come across something, I dont know how it would be portrayed. I am in limbo right now. I dont know what to do. I dont want to be here, but it doesnt feel right to leave her without my boy.
No one ever expects something like this to happen to them. What would you do? You dont think about that. First thought in your mind isnt probably going to be homicide. I havent been homicidal. Only because I block out everything. Im scared to death I wont come back from that.
Allegedly back in February. Emilys ex it was alleged that jh had been physical with one of the boys. So, Jonathans charged with misd battery, able to OR out. I feel its more so by the state that hes
You have no idea. I have nothing but respect for the FBI. WPD all about finding Lucas and bringing Lucas home.
Anything you want to tell us? Anything that youve heard thats of concern to you? This is all started back in may grandfathers funeral when I first saw the marks, lucas was sick all the times I couldnt get him. Lucas wasnt sick Lucas had bruises.
I do not believe Jonathan had any part of this whatsoever. Other than the fact that he is now well aware that Lucas is gone and he knows exactly that one person is responsible for it and who that is.
They were both given polys the night eg was taken in. jh passed with flying colors, Emily on the other hand she tried telling them that she exchanged (gifts? Kid?) with JO on VD. I was not even aware they moved. I have a rock solid alibi where I was, who I was with.
I would never expect jh to put lh in harms way. Jh is innocent, the only thing is guilty of is being a dumb sob, honestly. I dont know what she has over him, but she has something and its gotta be huge, because he loves that boy.
JHs efforts, other than welcoming his quote unquote wife home, something about a PI, we all want to know, whats going to make her crack at this point, I honestly dont know. I hope she goes through the pain I go through every day not getting to see her children.
EGs family as much as Ive already said, her family doesnt want **** to do with her. JH she convinced him to do the same with his.
My hands were tied because jh cut off his family . First report Actually Emilys family.?
Some kind of conversation, promise not to do it again kind of conversation
A year ago, 6 months ago reported why would jh have a hard time with someone else (family) standing up for his son? Q: for example, you had mentioned that jh cut off his family due to cps calls,. Why do you think jh would have a problem with that? Think hed want people to keep an eye out for his son.
A; not so much that he had a problem with that, but more so the fact, sorry, had a brain fart. He took them away, he thought drame; Eg manipulative she can get him to do whatever it is she wants. He makes good money, why are they always broke? Do you think it has to do with drugs? Absolutely.
What I can say for fact. EG has admitted face to face to JO herself of a previous heroin use. As far as JO is concerned, he would drink quite a bit but sober since last October. Other than alcohol, marijuana. Moo, and makes sense to me. First time I seen jonathan, 6 hour long conversation and one point I looked him in the eye and said you know he murdered our boy and he broke down in agreement and he knows. He looked same way he did when he went through his divorce.
Jonathan always had thin facial features according to family. JO _ he looked exactly like he did the first they met after his divorce sunken in cheeks. I dont want to speculate.
Other than the drinking, marijuana.
What are JHs thoughts about
6 hour conversation night EG was arrested she 72 psych hold 3 days me and JH were on the same page EG guilty. After hold lifted, she was able to contact JH and JO hasnt heard much from him since. 3 months
I felt absolute disgust that JH would take EG back.
Indicated that you were going to kidnap Lucas. Yep,had it all set up. 3, 4, 5 people knew. Got to the FBI because she. I told the FBI the same thing. Came from the last report
JHs step-mother (Beej) if nothing came about, she would personally take Lucas to NM and call pd and have herself arrested so there would be a case open.
150% child abuse
What about Mia? Shes okay because thats HERS.
Grandfathers funeral: that am eg stopped by, and her cousin Kristin in passenger seat, lucas filthy, not wearing clothes that anyone should be wearing to a funeral. Noticed the bruising just before getting in the car. EG dropped him off real quick, unbuckled lucas and she took off. She didnt want him
noticed the black eyes in bedroom, but running late, hurried up and got in the car. Inspected lucas over there
def not expecting to see
called El Dorado police dept they refused to look at him. Got ahold of jh, had eg turn around and come back and pick Lucas up
jh just freaked out
didnt even know I called the police.
He definitely knew something was going on. JH is in some freaking serious denial Ive never seen in anyone in my whole life.
Search efforts two groups for sure, dont think its daily, but sev times a week. All are in close communication with wpd and txeq, but havent spoken with tim in a long time now. Lost a lot of hope when they left.
Cadaver dogs I was not even aware that they moved until wpd called and said her son had wandered off.
Complete, thorough investigation Oh, absolutely. Just because I didnt witness with my own eyes
I dont doubt that one bit
they did everything they needed to do and more.
The first day
I accepted it
my boy is no longer with it. Drive down street
blocked off two blocks, lights going off everywhere
and I lost it.
What has jonathans search efforts/has he hired a PI? I dont even know why hes doing it. Only one person knows they know for a fact.
EG stopped replying to her emails. JO was emailing her. EGs first message just said dot dot dot. The weathers getting warmer now, can you please just tell me something? Dot dot dot second one, begging her and eg said you can speak with my attorney,
Scheduled a video visitation with eg which she has cancelled. I have not given up and Im not going away. I can stir the pot more than she can ever imagine, but I cannot move on with my life mentally, physically. Its the worst thing a mother could feel. Hes just a baby to me still, hes just 5 years olc.
The guilt I feel now, I will feel for the rest of my life. I didnt do the one thing I was supposed to do as a mother, I couldnt do it. Crying
CALLERS:
Misty Cox Let jo know we support her 100 percent and I made a promise that we would do everything. I love you, sweetheart. JO youve been awesome.
Absolutely loved school, mrs allen and she loved him just as much
Great kid, no problem making friends
He absolutely loved being a little brother to his big sister holly
Loved to help cook, clean, crafts,
Freckles & attitude from his momma
We almost lost lucas at birth, feels like were re-living the same nightmare again
Hes been a fighter his whole damn life
He is such a goofball; he is so goofy
Done with callers/question online: can you confirm where jh was? Didnt call jh until about 2 hours later. Eg had cut off all lines of communication between jo and jh arrangments through eg only.
Asked jh if he could take 2 hour detour; actually was more pissed that jo was contacted first. Eg had wpd; jh said he can open doors; jh, you and I both know he didnt wander off especially without socks and shoes.
Didnt learn until later on he had changed jobs; might have been texas, might have been nm. About a 12 hour trip away.