Thailand - FOUND ALIVE - 12 Boys And Coach Rescued from Cave, 23 June 2018 #6

[Gardener1850]

I meant to ask this earlier but forgot - are there no female expert cave divers? I think all the divers involved in this rescue were male? Please correct me if I'm wrong!

I think all the main divers of the rescue were male. I recall seeing an interview with a US military woman who was involved in the rescue but I don't recall if she was a diver. But there are definitely female cave divers. Here's one giving her explanation of the difficulties of cave diving and discussing the Thailand Rescue (caption says she is a friend/colleague of Australian Doctor Richard Harris and UK Cave Rescue Specialist Rick Stanton):

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Just a word of caution, please don't try it in India, should you ever come here. It's not safe. Speaking from experience ...

It's not called Delhi Belly for nothing!!

 

[*Verdigris]

I tend to agree about not too many treats for the boys. They had a horrible experience and they, their families, and the world are relieved they came out alive. But I don't think it's good for them or anyone else to give them massive prizes for it. Some smaller treats for sure, and as I said earlier I'd like to see some football t-shirts sent to the boys but also some footballs and gloves and things for the schools they go to...because all the other young people around were suffering in their fears as well.

I also think it's dangerous for other (maybe immature) kids/people to see them getting huge gifts for this and end up thinking that if they do something dangerous and need a huge rescue operation to save them that they can also get big gifts.

I think what those kids in the cave wanted most was to be out of there, safe, reunited with their families, home cooked meals, companionship of their families and friends, a comfy bed to sleep in, a proper toilet and shower and things like that. They were craving the right things that they needed, they weren't craving plane trips to Europe .... and think of the risk of claustrophobia being stuck on a plane for 12 hours+

Hi Amonet!❤︎
I started writng a post the other day, saying the same thing - but figured I'd give everyone a little break from my babbling posts on here.
(Wasn't that nice of me? )

I thought about the possibility (probability?) of other kids trying to do something, to get rescued and become "famous" and get all sorts of prizes. I wouldn't be surprised if some kids do try something - or at minimum, are thinking about it. And sorry to say, I also wouldn't be surprised if some certain type of parents were thinking of a scenario to put their own kids up to doing.

I really like the third paragraph in your post. Yes, they all just wanted to go home; each wanting to get back to his own normal life.
They are thrilled now, and truly blessed. They've been rescued in the most unprecedented way. Nothing else could ever compare. The commercial publicity gifts really shouldn't be over-done.

Bestowing lots of gifts to the divers, all the crew, and volunteers...
...now, that would be much better, I think.

imo.

 

[Gardener1850]

Just a word of caution, please don't try it in India, should you ever come here. It's not safe. Speaking from experience ...

I know, I've been told that just about everywhere. I'm cautious and perhaps lucky-- I haven't ever gotten sick but I know others who have. I mainly stick to vegetarian and never get anything with ice in it. And drink carbonated bottled water only.

 

[Satchie]

When I think of the word "sedated" I equate it with a person safely sleeping under medication or gas of some sort (like at the dentist when you get a tooth pulled). I think of sedation as a relatively safe procedure.

I disagree that sedation to the level of unconsciousness is safe: you're only sedated when under constant medical supervision, with an anesthesiologist and/or heart and blood pressure monitor that will alarm if anything starts to go wrong (unless you're Michael Jackson). Dentist's don't put you under full sedation except in a medical-type operating room, you just get a pill that makes you drowsy, but you can easily be awakened if you drowse off.

I don't understand how the diver knew what the condtion of the boys was, did he expect them to be looking around, shaking people's hands etc.? They were probably drowsy from an anti-anxiety med and just following instructions to lie still.

 

[Gardener1850]

 

[Gardener1850]

I think this was already posted but I think it's worth a repost:
Four Corners Documentary:

 

[Elainera]

I know, I've been told that just about everywhere. I'm cautious and perhaps lucky-- I haven't ever gotten sick but I know others who have. I mainly stick to vegetarian and never get anything with ice in it. And drink carbonated bottled water only.

Add to the list: no salads

And even then, it's still risky.

Not food but I just read an article the other day about Indian street barbers using the same blade again and again ...

Cagney, I don't live in Delhi but I know the belly lol!

 

[Elainera]

I think all the main divers of the rescue were male. I recall seeing an interview with a US military woman who was involved in the rescue but I don't recall if she was a diver. But there are definitely female cave divers. Here's one giving her explanation of the difficulties of cave diving and discussing the Thailand Rescue (caption says she is a friend/colleague of Australian Doctor Richard Harris and UK Cave Rescue Specialist Rick Stanton):

Ah thanks! Yes I remember the US military woman, I dont think she was a diver though.

So I wonder, were no female cave divers contacted for this rescue, or are they maybe not so many of them, or not experienced enough? Because of the tight spaces I would have thought they would have asked female divers with small frames to come.

 

[SeesSeas]

They were not conscious.
Rick Stanton, video below at 1:44
“that was the only way they were going to get out, they had to be sedated to do so”
“they were not conscious”
“the children, none of them remember the journey at all”

. . .
I don't understand how the diver knew what the condtion of the boys was, did he expect them to be looking around, shaking people's hands etc.? They were probably drowsy from an anti-anxiety med and just following instructions to lie still.

 

[Jax49]

British diver who rescued Thai boys from cave finds love with nurse | Daily Mail Online

The hero British diver who rescued 12 Thai boys and their football coach from a flooded cave is dating a local nurse, MailOnline can reveal.

Rick Stanton was the first person to reach the missing boys stranded in the flooded Tham Luang cave - and led the 'mission impossible' to free them.

Now MailOnline can reveal how fearless Mr Stanton, 57, who was awarded an MBE for his brave cave rescues, is dating a beautiful nurse from Thailand.

 

[Elainera]

Police in Chiangrai strongly deny the allegations Musk made. There have never been any complaints against Unsworth.

Twitter

 

[Elainera]

Tham Luang forest closed indefinitely due to heavy damage -indefinitely-due-to-heavy-damage/

The forest around the cave suffered extensive damages due to the rescue operations.

Wouldnt it be nice if the boys could help with the restoration? I'm sure they feel bad about this.

ETA: article also says the cave is now flooded till the entrance

 

[Gardener1850]

They were rescued last Tuesday on July 10, but it was only several days later on Sunday that the authorities finally allowed the parents to meet their sons up close.

Upon entering the ward on Sunday, Ms Chanta ran towards her son, Duangpetch Promthep, calling out his name. Tears flowed as they held each other in a long embrace.

"When I looked into his eyes, I could see he was crying, too. I hugged him and kissed him," she told TODAY. "I said to him, 'Be strong. You are out now, you are safe now'.

It had been an emotional few weeks for Ms Chanta: From the shock of learning that her boy went missing, to the agony of not knowing if he would come out alive from the cave, and then, huge relief.

'You are safe now': Mother of rescued Thai boy tells of emotional reunion in interview

 

[*Verdigris]

Read more: Cave-diving experts feel the ripples of the Thailand rescue — a rise in demand

I think all of us saw this coming during the first week. lol
Well, good then - as we'll be needing the next generation of cave-diving rescuers on hand. (Hope to never need them. But just in case.)
And, well, realistically there will be a continued need for recovery/extraction; which some of these divers have also done previously.

I'm wondering how many of the newly-interested, were inspired to become a rescuer; or just interested for a hobby. Or maybe wanting to learn diving "just in case" for their own peace of mind?
Any/all would be good though, huh? A diver rescuing someone with diving experience would be a much better situation, than rescuing someone without - as we have learned from this event.
btw - that was a really interesting article.

 

[Gardener1850]

Opinion Piece:

In a year dominated by geopolitical gloom, there has been one unabashed moment of celebration. The rescue of 12 Thai boys and their football coach from a deep underwater cave was a global triumph. It was an act of engineering and strategic brilliance. The international divers acted selflessly in lethal circumstances where success was by no means guaranteed. Leaders and citizens across the world have lauded their achievement.

Warning-- the rest of the article is about ElonMuskGate: Teamwork in Thailand triumphs over solo ego | Financial Times

 

[Gardener1850]

The boys and their coach have been in hospital in the northern town of Chiang Rai since they were rescued.

The authorities have been concerned about the impact of sudden fame and media attention on the boys’ mental health, so Wednesday’s news conference will be carefully controlled.

Journalists will submit questions in advance which will be vetted by a psychologist. Approved questions will be put to the boys by a moderator.

“We arrange it so that, after that, the boys can go back to their regular lives,” Sansern said.

Passakorn Bunyalak, deputy governor of the province of Chiang Rai, said the boys would be sent home after the news conference and he was requesting their parents and journalists to hold off interviews for about 30 days.

“At this early stage, we are trying to get media not to bother the boys,” he told Reuters, adding that they were protected by Thailand’s Child Protection Act.

An article in the act protects those under 18 from media coverage that would cause emotional and reputational injury.

12 Boys and Coach Rescued from Chiang Rai’s Tham Luang Cave Will Be Discharged From Hospital Wednesday – Chiang Rai Times English News Paper

 

[Gardener1850]

Tham Luang operation chief begins new life in Phayao

 

[dixiegirl1035]

There are two sites right now on the internet that state they are going to cover live coverage of the presser in 9 hours from now. Since the I am thinking they perhaps we'll have a translator for this press conference. These are the two sites that are up already on the internet that state they will have live feed.

Thai cave boys, coach leave for hospital for press conference

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Opinion Piece:

Warning-- the rest of the article is about ElonMuskGate: Teamwork in Thailand triumphs over solo ego | Financial Times

Years ago I had access to read the financial times on a daily basis, and it was an excellent paper. Unfortunately, this is behind a paywall and I cannot read it so thank you for the summary. And also thank you for the so many articles and videos that you have been sharing!