Blondie in Spokane
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- Jul 24, 2009
- Messages
- 10,992
- Reaction score
- 13,622
I am absolutely disgusted.
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
They had to charge her. If they charged her with obstruction and she plead guilty they could not later charge for anything else relating to Lucas. That would be double jeopardy.They couldn’t legally hold her after Lucas’ body was found?
Seems to me that’s exactly when it SHOULD have been legal to hold her!
That's a crazy law. So what if a person is charged with one crime and plead guilty, then later on LE discovers another crime was committed involved around the crime they already plead guilty for? They can't be charged?They had to charge her. If they charged her with obstruction and she plead guilty they could not later charge for anything else relating to Lucas. That would be double jeopardy.
Maybe, just maybe, do you think that Nancy made a mistake and misunderstood what someone else had said and it was meant... "died in the back room instead of, died in the bathroom"? I can see those words getting messed up, both statements sound quite similar.No mention of a question and answer session with Lucas while she was at OG or if he was seen peeking out the window by the LL. Also I think Nancy Grace needs to be checked, that garbage she gave about him dying in the bathroom on the 10th or 11th.
No. I think a former spokesperson told her reporter that. Some seem to think that the drug bath salts are the same as the bath salts you put in the bathtub (which are just himalayn salt and essential oils) and that he was drowned in a bath because of the chemical found in his system from decomp, which is also found in the drug bath salts. Basically, NG couldn't get enough "good" info so she kept taking info/interviews from the crazy groupies. JMO.Maybe, just maybe, do you think that Nancy made a mistake and misunderstood what someone else had said and it was meant... "died in the back room instead of, died in the bathroom"? I can see those words getting messed up, both statements sound quite similar.
Agreed. I thought that double jeopardy only applied to charging someone for the same crime, not for more than one related crime. I guess the laws vary state to state, but this is just ridiculous. It seems like justice was more than denied in this case, to me at least.I've been perplexed about the State of Kansas application of 'double jeopardy', as explained by the DA at the PC. But now I'm furious after learning that in 2014, Kansas also broadened the previous 90 day limit on moving a criminal trial to 150 days! Just to demonstrate how generous this is, a Speedy Trial* in Washington requires a trial in 60 days of arraignment-- if the defendant is detained in jail; if defendant not detained, it's 90 days.
There's no risk of Kansas being a "get out of jail free pass" to any defendant whose trial does not occur within 150 days of his or her arraignment,” so why the pass on double jeopardy too?
*Speedy Trial from the legal maxim "Justice delayed is justice denied"
How about going after those who saw and knew he was being abused and did nothing? How about the father, who REFUSED to discuss the abuse allegations in his first interview with JO? He mentioned that once Lucas was found, sure, we'll address it then, but that it wasn't "important" at the time. This is the same man that left a mark on his girlfriends son and plead guilty, while trying to turn around and basically blame the kid because he sprayed air freshener around the house. God forgive me for saying this, but that poor child thankfully got justice and is hopefully doing great and hopefully won't suffer any reprecussions from that incident. Although, I do worry about him later on in years, knowing that Lucas died shortly after that happened- that can do a lot to a child psychologically, but at least Jonathan will never have the chance to hurt him again and is free from abuse. What justice did Lucas get for suffering through abuse and eventually died? Nothing!I don't feel he was "nothing" in the eyes of the law. They stated they would have pursued a circumstantial murder charge if EG were alive. That's a tough case to pursue, so that makes me feel so if he meant a lot, and they would have tried all they could.
How about going after those who saw and knew he was being abused and did nothing? How about the father, who REFUSED to discuss the abuse allegations in his first interview with JO? He mentioned that once Lucas was found, sure, we'll address it then, but that it wasn't "important" at the time. This is the same man that left a mark on his girlfriends son and plead guilty, while trying to turn around and basically blame the kid because he sprayed air freshener around the house. God forgive me for saying that, but that poor child thankfully got justice and is hopefully doing great and hopefully won't suffer any reprecussions from that incident. Although, I do worry about him later on in years, knowing that Lucas died shortly after that happened- that can do a lot to a child psychologically, but at least Jonathan will never have the chance to hurt him again and is free from abuse. What justice did Lucas get? Nothing!
People reported the abuse, nothing was done. So, yes, in the eyes of the law, Lucas' death, in my opinion, means nothing. Nothing at all.
By the way, I am not criticizing the wonderful cops, detectives, and the beautiful searchers who looked for him. I am talking the law- the courts. No justice given to this boy. Nothing was answered. Nothing. Things we knew back in February is basically all that was discussed, and it was skimmed over.
They couldn’t legally hold her after Lucas’ body was found?
Seems to me that’s exactly when it SHOULD have been legal to hold her!
IANL but my understanding is that if she plead guilty to the obstruction charge there would have been no trial she would have been sentenced for that charge.I've been perplexed about the State of Kansas application of 'double jeopardy', as explained by the DA at the PC. But now I'm furious after learning that in 2014, Kansas also broadened the previous 90 day limit on moving a criminal trial to 150 days! Just to demonstrate how generous this is, a Speedy Trial* in Washington requires a trial in 60 days of arraignment-- if the defendant is detained in jail; if defendant not detained, it's 90 days.
There's no risk of Kansas being a "get out of jail free pass" to any defendant whose trial does not occur within 150 days of his or her arraignment,” so why the pass on double jeopardy too?
*Speedy Trial from the legal maxim "Justice delayed is justice denied"