Found Deceased Australia - Karen Ristevski, 47, Melbourne, Vic, 29 June 2016 - #16 *Arrest*

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Interesting article
NSA Can Reportedly Track Phones Even When They're Turned Off

NSA Can Reportedly Track Phones Even When They're Turned Off

The key part of the article is this “ to spy on phones when they are turned off, agencies would usually have to infect the handset with a Trojan that would force it to continue emitting a signal if the phone is in standby mode, unless the battery is removed.”

The bottom line is unless you believe that Australia has infected our citizens phones en masse, it is impossible to track a phone that is powered off unless you infect it beforehand.

Nobody had any reason to compromise Borce’s phone prior to the date in question & I do not believe our state police forces have the ability to hack/infect phones & install Trojans - that is the realm of ASIO & perhaps occasionally the Feds. Even if this was within the means available to our state police, it has to be done before you try to track the phone, not retrospectively & there was no reason for this to happen to Borce in advance.
 
putting the phone locations to one side for a moment, the significant thing next up has to be the fact the both phones were de activated ( or attempted to be so ) at almost the same time.

Co-incidence?.. on the day you have a blue with your wife, about money, and she stonks out, barefooted, to clear her head, and she doesn't come back, and you decide to fix up the fuel gauge on her car, you take it for a drive, and by sheer accident, you turn your phone off, and she, walking some strange street alone turns HER phone off at the same time!!.. howzat!!… you wouldn't read about it.

Borce has to be the unluckiest bloke in Melbourne, that day. Because he, and the murderer took the same route out of town , one to fix a fuel gauge, one to bury a body.. there are 11 main arteries out of Melbourne, and they both chose the same one!!.. howzat!!

The guy is so unlucky he missed the turnoff to the shop. The car would have known the way.
He obviously had things on his mind.
 

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it has always astonished me, that neither Borce, nor Sarah, at any time when a camera was shoved in their face have either of them turned snarling to deliver a message of doom to the killer of their wife, their mother.

'we know who you are'... we'll get you'.. this kind of thing. Neither of them has EVER been publicly angry that someone unknown to them, murdered their wife, their mother.

They have been angry at the Police, at the Police Prosecutor, at various members of their family, at the general public, at news reporters, but never, strangely , at the unknown killer who murdered and hid their mothers / wifes body...
 
it has always astonished me, that neither Borce, nor Sarah, at any time when a camera was shoved in their face have either of them turned snarling to deliver a message of doom to the killer of their wife, their mother.

'we know who you are'... we'll get you'.. this kind of thing. Neither of them has EVER been publicly angry that someone unknown to them, murdered their wife, their mother.

They have been angry at the Police, at the Police Prosecutor, at various members of their family, at the general public, at news reporters, but never, strangely , at the unknown killer who murdered and hid their mothers / wifes body...

AND when Aunt P wanted to bring in a private investigator Borce said it was "out of his league.":rolleyes:o_O
bloody media :p
 
The guy is so unlucky he missed the turnoff to the shop. The car would have known the way.
He obviously had things on his mind.


TGY. . poor Borce!!. he is so unlucky that he gives his wife his last $850 from his wallet, only to have her walk out the door and disappear!!… the $850 has never been found...
 

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So if borce and Karen argued about money, anyone else think it's possible borce blew the $850 (at the casino?), it would explain Karen going 'ballistic'. There's a reason he keeps mentioning it.

If the shop was losing so much money why would they keep employees rather than just running it themselves?
 
The Lara tower mentioned specifically in cross examination of the optus bloke.
Link a few posts back.
Which is even closer to Hoppers isn't it?
Can someone in Melbourne (I am not!) say whether there's enough time, before 1.03 pm that day, that Borce could drive to Hoppers and back home?? I have no idea.
 
So the phone only had to be in a 20 to 35 klm radius of the Lara tower as the crow flies. ( at a stretch up to 50klms)
The police have never disclosed the route they believe Borce took on the return journey have they?
 
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So the phone only had to be in a 20 to 35 klm radius of the Lara tower as the crow flies. ( at a stetch up to 50klms)
The police have never disclosed the route they believe Borce took on the return journey have they?

Hoppers Crossing to Lara is 35 km, (by road) as this is 'more rural' then well within range, as 'crow flies'.
 
???

So he has help desposing of Karen. .... then heads back with his helper to ?? Hoppers Crossing... where his phone pings off the Lara tower..

The defence have done a great job ..... at opening up.... the potential for an accessory after the fact..
 
Got a bit to catch up on ....... just wondering are any sleuthers here attending the hearing? Wondering too who's there daily, anyone to support BR? Just spontaneous curiosity at this point. I catch up on posts
 
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inevitably , one has to come up with workable scenario's. Awful as they are.

(a) Borce murders Karen, takes her body to Macedon. Tells Sarah.

(b) Sarah murders Karen. Borce assists Sarah, Borce takes the body to Macedon. Borce takes the rap.

(c) Sarah and Borce murder Karen, both load the body into the Merc, Borce takes the body to Macedon, Sarah goes off to Uni. Borce takes the rap.
 
inevitably , one has to come up with workable scenario's. Awful as they are.

(a) Borce murders Karen, takes her body to Macedon. Tells Sarah.

(b) Sarah murders Karen. Borce assists Sarah, Borce takes the body to Macedon. Borce takes the rap.

(c) Sarah and Borce murder Karen, both load the body into the Merc, Borce takes the body to Macedon, Sarah goes off to Uni. Borce takes the rap.

Added to all above, there is perhaps Vasko involved
 
it has always astonished me, that neither Borce, nor Sarah, at any time when a camera was shoved in their face have either of them turned snarling to deliver a message of doom to the killer of their wife, their mother.

'we know who you are'... we'll get you'.. this kind of thing. Neither of them has EVER been publicly angry that someone unknown to them, murdered their wife, their mother.

They have been angry at the Police, at the Police Prosecutor, at various members of their family, at the general public, at news reporters, but never, strangely , at the unknown killer who murdered and hid their mothers / wifes body...

Why would they talk to themselves ? :oops::rolleyes:o_O
 
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