GUILTY Bali - Sheila von Wiese Mack, 62, found dead in suitcase, 12 Aug 2014 #5

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Oh wait, William Wiese IS the defendant. So he won? Where are the reporters now? :rolleyes:

ETA: Looks like we were all asleep for this days old news. :p
 
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The financial terms of the settlement agreement are confidential, but court records filed earlier this month in the Cook County case made it clear Heather Mack will not receive “any property, benefit, or other interest.”

Instead, the beneficiary is Mack’s daughter, Stella, who was born in an Indonesian prison in March 2015 as Mack and her then-boyfriend awaited trial.
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After multiple court battles involving several attorneys and court experts, only about half of the money was left as of late last year, according to available public records.
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Daughter imprisoned in Bali slaying settles mother's estate, 3-year-old daughter named beneficiary
 
Kamille said:
Oh hi SouthAussie! Long time no see! :)
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Kamille said:
And the Daily Mail is on it.

Woman in Bali murder gives up claim to mother's estate | Daily Mail Online
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Hi Kamille! Great news, isn't it?!

Of course, Favia says her piece, to slip the 'more detailed confidential terms of the agreement' out, and try to make Heather seem like such a nice (mother-murdering) person.

She said that Mack had always wanted her daughter to receive the inheritance but had also asked for some funds for her education when she got out of jail.
'The settlement is a fair resolution for all parties,' Favia said Wednesday.
 
Mack’s attorney, Vanessa Favia, said her client is glad the matter is resolved, finally. In earlier motions, Mack indicated she wanted her daughter to receive the money but she also made certain financial demands for her living and educational expenses upon release from prison.
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Daughter imprisoned in Bali slaying settles mother's estate, 3-year-old daughter named beneficiary

This tells me right here that HM isn't planning on being deported back to the US. Giving the money to Stella is pretty much the same as giving it to HM if she is not deported and stays in Bali.

Looks like the trust is still worth about $800,000.00 US. I bet that will go pretty far in Indonesia.

MOO
 
SouthAussie said:
Hi Kamille! Great news, isn't it?!

Of course, Favia says her piece, to slip the 'more detailed confidential terms of the agreement' out, and try to make Heather seem like such a nice (mother-murdering) person.

She said that Mack had always wanted her daughter to receive the inheritance but had also asked for some funds for her education when she got out of jail.
'The settlement is a fair resolution for all parties,' Favia said Wednesday.
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If she always wanted Stella to receive it, she wouldn't have eaten up half of it in court fees. o_O

Better news would be that Stella is to be returned to the US and adopted out. And that the money is locked in trust until she turns 30. No monthly stipend to anyone raising her. The way it is now, I assume that OS is still receiving funds for Stella's upkeep that she's probably funneling a portion of to HM.

MOO
 
Thought I’d log in to see if there was any news. Wow! I missed a lot.

I hope in the “undisclosed financial terms” there are checks and balances so HM won’t benefit when she is released. I assume WW is still the executor.

Maybe WW’s plan was to go this route, letting HM believe she would get her grubby little hands on the money once she is released from Hotel K, but, WW feels confident she will be extradited to the US to face murder charges. One can hope. I think HM only has about 6 more years.

Wonder how TS is holding up. I almost feel sorry for him. Then I think of what Sheila’s final moments on this earth were like, and it goes away. But he did get hosed by HM.
 
Weezer Fan said:
Thought I’d log in to see if there was any news. Wow! I missed a lot.

I hope in the “undisclosed financial terms” there are checks and balances so HM won’t benefit when she is released. I assume WW is still the executor.

Maybe WW’s plan was to go this route, letting HM believe she would get her grubby little hands on the money once she is released from Hotel K, but, WW feels confident she will be extradited to the US to face murder charges. One can hope. I think HM only has about 6 more years.

Wonder how TS is holding up. I almost feel sorry for him. Then I think of what Sheila’s final moments on this earth were like, and it goes away. But he did get hosed by HM.
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She can't be tried again for a murder that happened in another country, and she served her time.
 
She can be tried for a different crime. TS's cousin got 8 years for conspiracy to commit murder based on advice he gave the couple. HM is the ringleader, and the charge carries a possible 20 year penalty.

There's also confusion, unresolved I think, about what she was actually convicted of in Indonesia, because their crime charges don't map directly to ours.

Something encouraging I stumbled on recently. We've talked before - HM wants to stay in Indonesia after she gets out because she knows she's almost certainly going to be arrested when she comes back to the US. Indonesia and the US do not have an extradition treaty.

Well, what the US can do (and did recently to someone else) is revoke your passport. That means that 1) you can't go anywhere else - HM couldn't flee to Thailand, for example - because she wouldn't be able to get out of Indonesia; 2) she's in Indonesia with no valid papers. She's not a citizen and a visa without a valid passport means nothing.

In these cases, the country you are in has no choice but to send her to her home country. No other country will let her in without papers unless she can prove she is a citizen.

It's possible it won't even come to this. I don't know how old HM's passport is. They are good for ten years, but you really can't use them for anything but going home for the last six months. If her passport expires while she's in prison, the only place to get a replacement will be the US Embassy. No chance that she'll show up at the airport in the middle of the night and get out without the US authorities knowing and waiting for her.
 
ajaylee said:
She can be tried for a different crime. TS's cousin got 8 years for conspiracy to commit murder based on advice he gave the couple. HM is the ringleader, and the charge carries a possible 20 year penalty.

There's also confusion, unresolved I think, about what she was actually convicted of in Indonesia, because their crime charges don't map directly to ours.

Something encouraging I stumbled on recently. We've talked before - HM wants to stay in Indonesia after she gets out because she knows she's almost certainly going to be arrested when she comes back to the US. Indonesia and the US do not have an extradition treaty.

Well, what the US can do (and did recently to someone else) is revoke your passport. That means that 1) you can't go anywhere else - HM couldn't flee to Thailand, for example - because she wouldn't be able to get out of Indonesia; 2) she's in Indonesia with no valid papers. She's not a citizen and a visa without a valid passport means nothing.

In these cases, the country you are in has no choice but to send her to her home country. No other country will let her in without papers unless she can prove she is a citizen.

It's possible it won't even come to this. I don't know how old HM's passport is. They are good for ten years, but you really can't use them for anything but going home for the last six months. If her passport expires while she's in prison, the only place to get a replacement will be the US Embassy. No chance that she'll show up at the airport in the middle of the night and get out without the US authorities knowing and waiting for her.
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I think Schapelle Corby (and others) HAD to leave Indonesia and be returned to her home country, after her prison and parole periods were over, whether she wanted to stay in Indonesia or go to another country or not.

I am sure we read something some time ago stating that international prisoners (of serious crimes) would be returned to their home country after their sentence was over. They don't have a choice.

It's 12 years since Schapelle Corby was convicted of importing marijuana to Indonesia, and this week she is due to be deported to Australia.
Schapelle Corby is coming home: Here's how it all went down

A Frenchman who served 18 years in custody for smuggling drugs into Bali was deported on Saturday in a case that sparked outrage in his native country over Indonesia’s tough narcotics laws .... They are expected in France on Sunday.
Indonesia deports Frenchman after 18 year’s jail for smuggling drugs

The 14-year-old Australian boy arrested and charged for buying drugs in Bali ...... He was handed over to Indonesian immigration officials inside the prison, who will be in charge of deporting him. The boy is expected to head back to Australia tonight .....
Bali boy released from custody, free to leave Indonesia
 
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There is a case here where a US man was deported from Indonesia this year and sent back to the US to face charges.

After reading the Indonesian legislation, it seems that they allow extradition if a person is to face charges in another country.
http://portal.ahu.go.id/uploads/_up...on in Indonesia legislation and procedure.pdf


Hopefully, there are charges that the US can ensure that Heather will face, in this case.


A 68-year-old man that was living outside the U.S. has been deported back to the states and will face federal fraud charges.
Man deported from Indonesia will face federal charges in Oregon

FBI agents from Oregon escorted a fraud suspect back to the United States from Indonesia.
Man back from Indonesia to face fraud charges in Oregon
 
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SouthAussie said:
There is a case here where a US man was deported from Indonesia this year and sent back to the US to face charges.

After reading the Indonesian legislation, it seems that they allow extradition if a person is to face charges in another country.
http://portal.ahu.go.id/uploads/_uploads/dl/PP_UU/Dit.HIOP/Extradition in Indonesia legislation and procedure.pdf


Hopefully, there are charges that the US can ensure that Heather will face, in this case.


A 68-year-old man that was living outside the U.S. has been deported back to the states and will face federal fraud charges.
Man deported from Indonesia will face federal charges in Oregon

FBI agents from Oregon escorted a fraud suspect back to the United States from Indonesia.
Man back from Indonesia to face fraud charges in Oregon
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The FBI sure seems ready to have a go at HM and then TS upon their release. Question is...will they get the chance? Especially with HE. :mad:
 
Weezer Fan said:
We are probably done hearing anything about HM until she gets out.
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I think you're right. There were more sentence reductions in August. HM and TS weren't mentioned in the news articles but I'm sure they continue to receive them. So she'll be out in a few years I'm sure. :rolleyes:
 
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