07:57
Camilla Marie Nielsen
Good morning and welcome to Ekstra Bladet's live coverage from the Østre Landsret, where the appeal against Peter Madsen today begins.
The hearing begins at 9.30 and the appeal case comes solely to deal with the punishment for the death of the Swedish journalist Kim Wall in August last year.
Defense Attorney Betina Hald Engmark will try to convince the Supreme Court over the next three hearings to mitigate the verdict's judgment in Livstid to Peter Madsen. A final decision is expected on Friday, September 14th.
08:04
Camilla Marie Nielsen
Peter Madsen meets himself today and is expected to be present during all three days of the appeal proceedings. His defense attorney, Betina Hald Engmark, and the new prosecutor Kristian Kirk have already taken seats in the hall. The same has a number of press people and listeners.
08:06
Camilla Marie Nielsen
Where the city court met journalists from around the world, the appeal case seems to have a little less interest in the foreign media. However, representatives of the Swedish and Norwegian presses are present today.
08:11
Comment from Emil
Have been so excited for more of your amazing coverage! Is it an advantage that he has the same defense, but a new prosecutor?
08:11
Reply from Camilla Marie Nielsen
Hello Emil
Thank you very much, we hope we can do as well a job as last. It is hard to say. Whether it's an advantage that there has been a new prosecution of the case, but fresh eyes can always be healthy. Prosecutor Kristian Kirk calls for the same charges as Jacob Buch-Jepsen prosecutor required in the city court - the lifetime of Peter Madsen for the killing of the Kim Wall.
It is a clear advantage for Betina Hald Engmark that she continues the case. She must know it in and out at the present time. It is also an advantage that she alone can focus her efforts on a reduction of penalties, as this appeal alone has to consider. Therefore, she and Peter Madsen should not relate again to the evidence presented in the district court, but merely argue that the life sentence penalty should be reduced to 16 years or less.
08:13
Linette K. Jespersen
Kim Walls parents have now entered the courtroom. They are sitting on the same side as the prosecutor
08:13
Camilla Marie Nielsen
The final preparations are currently taking place in the Øres Landsret courtroom 1. As the city court, the district court has also created a so-called listening room this time, where sound and image from the hall are being transmitted to an adjacent room, so that journalists who do not have room for the room , nevertheless can accompany.
08:15
Comment from Ole
And how can one, like a normal working person, choose to be his defender?
08:15
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
Hello Ole. It is an important principle of Danish law that everyone is entitled to a defense. So I think it would be more unfortunate if nobody wanted to defend him. The most important thing is that it is the right judgment to be settled.
08:15
Camilla Marie Nielsen
A number of citizens have also met to follow the appeal proceedings today. They have been in line since this morning to get a seat in the hall. A single has been waiting since yesterday.
08:16
Comment from Gitte
Do you expect to be present throughout the hearing, and if so, how long have you been allocated today?
08:16
Reply from Camilla Marie Nielsen
Hi, Gitte
Yes, we expect to be present at all three hearings. The day today is set to last from 9.30 to 15.30. But as in the Byr, there is a risk that the schedule will go a little bit.
08:17
Linette K. Jespersen
Peter Madsen's support is in the right of the hall, where also the defender and Peter Madsen, when he comes, sit. Here are three women meet up. To the left are the prosecutor and Kim Wall's parents
08:19
Comment from Tjalfe
When are they expected to fall?
08:19
Reply from Camilla Marie Nielsen
Hi Tjalfe
They are expected on Friday, September 14th.
08:20
Linette K. Jespersen
Kim Wall's parents look seriously serious. Particularly Ingrid Wall sits and looks a little empty in the air. Joachim Wall has a laptop with which he writes
08:21
Comment from Aleks
When a normal citizen arrives you will not be asked what to do there? And what the purpose is?
08:21
Reply from Camilla Marie Nielsen
Hi Aleks
No, you do not. The attendees have, like the journalists, to show proof of identity, but otherwise it is a Danish rule of law that all court hearings in court proceedings are public.
08:22
Comment from Gitte
Who are the three women who have met up as his supporters ?!
08:22
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
One of them also followed the entire burial case at the seats deposited on Peter Madsen's side. But she refused to say goodbye at that time.
08:24
Camilla Marie Nielsen
We are still waiting for the case's main character, Peter Madsen, to arrive at the hall. He is in prison in Herstedvester prison in Albertslund, but is probably in one of the adjacent rooms for the courtroom, waiting to be taken into the hall.
08:25
Comment from Kim Nielsen
In China, punishment length was not a question, it is unfortunately in Denmark
08:25
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
Hi Kim. There are different views of our judiciary. I am personally pleased with the Danish model, where legal certainty is paramount
08:29
Linette K. Jespersen
Both defenders and prosecutors are now wearing the special black jackets that they will wear in the national court. The prosecutor is black with little edges, the defender is black with red edges
08:29
Comment from Susuu
What days / date are you alive from the Peter Madsen case? Is it only today?
08:29
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
Hi Susuu. We live-cover every three days.
08:33
Comment from Jonas
How long does he think he gets?
08:33
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
Hello Jonas. Fortunately, we are not going to judge him. Objectively, there are not many who have been sentenced lifetime for 'only' a killing if the person is unpunished. On the other hand, there was not a lot of wings in the ward of the verdict, referring to the fact that the killing was planned and sexually motivated, and that it was a woman who was killed but she fits her job. But that has happened. We have made an overview of how other life prisoners went here.
Sådan skal forsvarer kæmpe for lavere straf
08:34
Comment from Malene
What is the probability of staff reduction?
08:34
Reply from Camilla Marie Nielsen
Hi Malene
Peter Madsen had a lifetime in the city court, despite the fact that there are not many examples of imprisoned perpetrators having a lifetime of just one killing of an adult. The appeal case here really is going to be a fight on law, and it is not to say whether the district court will confirm or if Betina Hald Engmark succeeds in getting a penalty reduction.
08:35
Camilla Marie Nielsen
Then Peter Madsen has arrived at the hall. He has taken a seat next to his defender, Betina Hald Engmark.
08:35
Camilla Marie Nielsen
Peter Madsen is wearing dark clothes and talks quietly with his defense attorney while waiting for the court to be put.
08:37
Camilla Marie Nielsen
Then the court's judges and judges arrive. The referee starts by asking Peter Madsen for his birthday.
Peter Madsen confirms that it is January 12, 1971.
08:38
Camilla Marie Nielsen
It has now been accused of Kristian Kirk's time to speak. He has chosen a sample of the verdict from Copenhagen City, which he will document for the court.
08:40
Camilla Marie Nielsen
The prosecutor first reads from the plea that had been raised against Peter Madsen in the city court.
It is a man's killing in the period between 10 August 2017 approx. 22:00 and 11 August 2017 approx. kI. 10.00, in Danish waters aboard the submarine UC3 Nautilus, after prior planning and preparation, in unknown fashion, possible by throat or suffocation, to kill Kim Wall.
08:43
Camilla Marie Nielsen
Prosecutor Kristian Kirk continues his reading of the indictment, which also included other sexual relationships of particularly dangerous nature and ill-treatment of Kim Wall.
- In the period between August 10, 2017 and August 11, 2017, after prior planning and preparation, by void or threat of void, to have resorted to sexual relations other than sexual intercourse with Kim Wall, bringing knife, tapered screwdrivers and straps, after which he tied her to her head, arms and legs, struck her, stabbed and cut her, reading the prosecutor, among other things.
08:43
Comment from Laura
How many of Peter Madsen's seats are occupied today?
08:43
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
Hello Laura. Three seats. There would be room for more.
08:44
Comment from Frode Nedermark
Will the judgment of 14.9 be ultimate or can it be appealed to the Supreme Court?
08:44
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
Hi Frode. It can be tried to the Supreme Court. However, it requires that the Processing Authority assesses that there is something in principle in the judgment.
08:44
Camilla Marie Nielsen
In addition, the prosecutor documents how to confiscate a number of effects from the submarine Nautilus, as well as a number of hard drives and computers from Peter Madsen Rumlaboratorium on Refshaleøen in Copenhagen.
08:46
Comment from Picasso2
Will the prosecutor pick up new or old witnesses from the last hearing?
08:46
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
Hi Picasso2. There will not be really evidence because it's only about punishment, not guilty. So there are no testimonials. Neither new nor old. Nor new investigation. But one might imagine that the prosecutor will later read some of the testimonies made by the district courts in the national court.
08:47
Camilla Marie Nielsen
The prosecutor is now coming to court decision for the decision on lifetime to Peter Madsen.
- It is assumed that the submarine was thoroughly cleaned approx. one week before August 8, 2017, the prosecutor reads.
In addition, it is described in the judgment how Peter Madsen attempted to invite three different women aboard the Nautilus submarine until 8 August.
- All these three women announced a ban on 8 August. Similarly, on August 8, the defendant agreed to meet with a friend on Friday, August 11, where they were going on a submarine trip, reading the prosecutor.
08:48
Camilla Marie Nielsen
In addition, the judgment assumes that Peter Madsen in the period up to 10 August showed an interest in killing and mutilation of people and also interested in "spitting".
08:49
Camilla Marie Nielsen
In addition, the town court found that Peter Madsen before the cruise with Kim Wall on August 10 had a number of effects in the submarine. Including an extra bootsuit, a hood, two long and tapered screwdrivers and a series of pipe pieces.
08:49
Comment from SandraB
Can they be sentenced before September 14?
08:49
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
Hi SandraB. We certainly should not count on it - enough closer to pressure.
08:50
Comment from Catharina
How many places are dedicated to ordinary people this turnaround? Are they only for Danish citizens, or can I try to get a place in Sweden the 12th or 14th?
08:50
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
Hi, Catharina. There are six seats allocated to listeners, first come first served. It does not matter if you are Danish or not
08:50
Camilla Marie Nielsen
Prosecutor Kristian Kirk continues to read from the verdict in the City Court as part of his documentation in the appeal case.
The verdict is several hundred pages long, but the prosecutor has chosen a sample of the judgment, which he reads aloud.
08:51
Camilla Marie Nielsen
In the verdict, Byret leaves little doubt about Peter Madsen's fault in the case. In several places, Peter Madsen's explanations in the city court are described as untrustworthy. In addition, the court also writes that they have violated Madsen's many changing explanations.
08:54
Camilla Marie Nielsen
The sentence also includes a number of straps that were found in the submarine Nautilus when it was lifted from the bottom of the ocean.
Similar straps are also found in bags that are also dumped at sea and a number of lesions have also been found on, for example, Kim Wall's one arm and in her face, which according to the court points out that the straps have been used to tension it Swedish journalist stuck in the submarine.
08:55
Comment from Dorthe
I am absolutely indescribable that Kundby the girl is in contact with Peter Madsen. First, the municipality admitted that they could have treated the case better and the girl might have avoided the drastic development that her case has taken. How can you allow the girl to write with Peter Madsen, who has manipulated women and now this case with killing and sexual intervention. If that girl was broken when she came to Herstedvester, I do not really think about what she is going through strange contacts. As well as those psychopaths who can easily manipulate her young naive mind.
08:55
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
Hi Dorthe. Her mother also tells me that it will be extremely worrying if this correspondence occurs. She does not want to confirm it herself. There is probably no doubt that prison is not the coolest place for a young woman, and she has received letters from several other convicted people. But prisoners in Danish prisons have the right to exchange of letters. You can read about this:
+ Now they are in the same prison: Peter Madsen writes with the Kundby girl
08:56
Comment from Picasso2
What dates are the other two days the hearing will take place?
08:56
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
Hi Picasso2. 12 and 14 September
08:56
Camilla Marie Nielsen
In addition, the court in their judgment addresses the number of lesions found on Kim Wall. Here, they also disclose that, according to the forensic study, Kim Wall suffered a number of lesions while she was alive and that, from blood erosions, she found that the party of Kim Wall took place several hours after she had died.
In addition, the court alleges that Peter Madsen mistreated Kim Wall by awarding her multiple lesions with two screwdrivers.
"Peter Madsen has not come up with any plausible explanation for the many lesions on and in the genitals," he says, among other things, in the judgment that the prosecutor continues to read from.
08:57
Comment from Jane
Who is the prosecutor?
08:57
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
Hi Jane. It is Kristian Kirk from the Attorney General in Copenhagen. Among other things, he was accused of the case against the so-called Kundby girl
08:57
Camilla Marie Nielsen
- After an overall assessment, the court finds that the accused has killed Kim Wal, finding the court's judgment, which was disposed of in April this year.
08:59
Camilla Marie Nielsen
In addition to killing, paternity and other sexual intercourse, Peter Madsen is also guilty of sailing the submarine Nautilus irresponsibly and endangering the lives and lives of others.
09:01
Comment from Picasso2
Do you recognize the people who are at Peter Madsen's attorneys?
09:01
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
The one woman also followed the burial case, but she never wanted to comment.
09:01
Camilla Marie Nielsen
Prosecutor Kristian Kirk has now come to the criminal trial found by the district court earlier this year, which is now being assessed by the national court.
- Defendants are punished with imprisonment on their lifetime. In determining the punishment, the court emphasized that it was a cynical and planned sexual assault and killing of a very brutal character on a random woman who, in connection with her journalistic work, had accepted an offer for a boat trip in the prisoners' submarine, it is in the judgment.
09:03
Camilla Marie Nielsen
The prosecutor now documents how defender Betina Hald Engmark in May this year in an email informs the prosecutor that her client Peter Madsen alone appeals to the punishment and not the debt issue.
- What is the defense's claim, the judge asks now.
- Formalization, Defense Attorney Betina Hald Engmark answers.
09:05
Camilla Marie Nielsen
Like the Byron, Peter Madsen sits and accompanies everything in the hall. He seems interested in everything the prosecutor says and also follows in the papers that lie in front of him.
09:08
Camilla Marie Nielsen
Prosecutor Kristian Kirk now takes the floor. He explains how the court alone will decide on the sentence.
"With that in mind, maybe three days may seem as much. But I can assure you that we will need all of them. If anyone has the expectation that this appeal can only be carried out with reading and documentation, then mistakes, the prosecutor says that he, like the city court, will show the unpleasant pictures, video material and other evidence from the case that shows torture and killing of women in particular.
- Should you think if it's really necessary to show them again, I'd say that's it. It is highly necessary to judge the man who is sitting here today. It is relevant to what sanction we should ultimately find, says the prosecutor.
09:08
Comment from Pelle
Why should they have cloaks on?
09:08
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
Hi Pelle. I want to believe that it is respect for the court and so to remove the focus on the people. They are here by virtue of their role as prosecutors and defenders
09:09
Maria
Is Deidre king present in court? Thank you for amazing coverage!
Hello and thank you. No, she is not.
09:10
Camilla Marie Nielsen
The prosecutor is now coming to the start of the case. As accused of Jakob Buch-Jepsen, Kristian Kirk also begins to show a picture of Kim Wall on a big screen in the hall.
"The Swedish freelance journalist Kim Wall lived with his Danish girlfriend not far from Peter Madsen's lab on the Refshale island," the prosecutor said.
09:12
Comment from MBC
Do we know why the former prosecutor has been replaced? Peter Madsen was, as you know, both cruel and flattering to Jacob's accuser. Could it be that there is now a new prosecution of the case?
09:12
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
Hi MBC. It is common practice that it is a prosecutor of the prosecutor who meets in the national court. And so, Jakob Buch-Jepsen is also switched to the defender act immediately after the submarine case
09:13
Camilla Marie Nielsen
The prosecutor continues to document how Kim Wall worked on an article about the Danish space race.
- In this regard, Kim Wall and Peter Madsen contacted already March 24, 2017 to April 3, 2017 about a possible interview, but nothing went on. The contact will only be restored on Thursday, 10 August 2017 - that is the day when Kim Wall takes on the fatal sailing with Peter Madsen, says Kristian Kirk.
09:15
Comment from Ferhat
Can you risk Peter Madsen coming out due to good behavior after x number of years, or are we protected as a citizen against a psychopath?
09:15
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
Hi Ferhat. The question of probation is dependent on whether he is sentenced to a time or sentence. If it is a time-penalty, then his danger will be assessed
09:15
Camilla Marie Nielsen
The prosecutor tells how Kim Wall and Peter Madsen on August 10 have a short conversation in 3 minutes, where they agree to conduct an interview the same day. The details are agreed via sms.
"We have nothing in the investigation that suggests anything but this very short and professional correspondence," the prosecutor says.
09:17
Camilla Marie Nielsen
The prosecutor now shows a large-screen video in court, showing the submarine Nautilus from the outside and inside after it was lifted by the police from the bottom of the ocean.
Here's a man's first climb up the side of the submarine and later down the tower to go through the submarines of the submarine.
09:19
Camilla Marie Nielsen
Together, the prosecutor shows a sketch of the submarine. The machine room is located at the rear of the submarine, then the submarine's fair will be located, where there are benches on both sides of the submarine. It is in this room that police officers have been able to find two cut-off straps attached to the benches of the benches.
09:21
Camilla Marie Nielsen
The prosecutor also documents Kim Wall's last text message to his girlfriend at 20.29.
They are written in English and sounds:
"We'll go down for a while. I'm still alive!
"He has taken coffee and cookies," she writes.
09:22
Camilla Marie Nielsen
It is Kim Wall's Danish girlfriend, who is first worried and later alerts the Danish authorities that initiate a search.
"It will not be possible until the morning after established contact with the submarine Nautilus," the prosecutor said.
09:25
Camilla Marie Nielsen
It is Radio Lyngby, which will contact Peter Madsen's submarine on the morning of August 11th. Here, Peter Madsen reports about technical problems. He also states that no injured person is aboard the submarine.
The submarine is spotted in the surface from Dragør harbor, but immediately afterwards, the submarine is lost while Peter Madsen seeks refuge in an acclaimed pleasure boat.
"It is also assumed that Peter Madsen purposely sank the Nautilus submarine. He has also told himself, says the prosecutor.
09:26
Camilla Marie Nielsen
The prosecutor now shows the video material that was filmed in connection with Peter Madsen's rescue. Here Madsen arrives at Dragør Harbor, while a woman shouts 'Are you ok, Peter', to which Peter Madsen gives a 'thumps up'.
09:27
Camilla Marie Nielsen
The video continues and shows how a male journalist asks Peter Madsen what went wrong.
"It was something about the ballast tank," says Peter Madsen.
"Are you sorry?" Asks the journalist referring to the lost submarine.
"Much, Peter Madsen answers calmly.
09:28
Comment from Bodil Udsen
It is the character of his conscious actions that earns him a lifetime? Is that what the prosecutor wants? The cynical absolute lack of compassionate empathy, as well as the ability to separate imagination from reality?
09:28
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
Hi Bodil. The aggravation in this case, seen from the prosecutor's office and as the court of appeal, was that it was a cynical and planned sexually motivated assault and killing of a random woman who was at work.
09:29
Camilla Marie Nielsen
Peter Madsen is subsequently taken for a personal investigation by police technicians. Here you will find rifles on the forearms and dried blood at Peter Madsen's left nostrils. Further studies confirm that it is Kim Blood's blood.
09:30
Comment from Heidi
Are seats for ordinary citizens occupied at today's hearing?
09:30
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
Hi Heidi. There are immediately available chairs and there were only three 'regular listeners' from the morningtime. But I do not know if they allocate new seats during the day or only from morning time
09:33
Camilla Marie Nielsen
Pros: We do not get uncomfortable pictures and videos
Prosecutor Kristian Kirk will, under appeal, show images of the bodies and remedies left on the bottom of the ocean by Peter Madsen and the many stitches. In addition, he will show the videos of abuse and killing of women found on a number of hard drives and computers in Peter Madsen's custody. This has just emerged during the preliminary presentation of the Østre Landsret.
- Should you think if it's really necessary to show them again, I'd say that's it. It is highly necessary to judge the man who is sitting here today. It is relevant to what sanction we should ultimately find, says the prosecutor.
09:34
Comment from Emil
Is not it correct PM has stated he wanted the mill through, like a performance, with this trial? Are there any special marks or scares to look at the PM after his assault in prison?
09:34
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
Hello Emil. During the mental investigation prior to the case, he stated something in the way that he would take the trial. I can not immediately see him screaming after the assault, where he was injured in his head.
09:35
Camilla Marie Nielsen
The prosecutor now asks to turn off the big screen in the hall. Probably because he will show some of the material that is assured in the case, which is reserved for the court's legal members.
Among other things, there are two videos that were also played in Copenhagen City, which shows the killing of two different women. It is the police's view that these are authentic recordings.
Before we get a clarification as to whether these videos are concerned, the prosecutor asks for a short morning break.
"We're up to 10.40," said the judge.
09:36
Linette K. Jespersen
During the break, Peter Madsen is taken to a room in the corner of the courtroom
09:36
Comment from Mads
Is there a court day on Friday? And can you come to belong?
09:36
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
Hey mads. There is no legal day again on Wednesday. As mentioned, there was not much run on the seats this morning, so it's worth a try.
09:42
Comment from Lasse
Do you know something about how far the submarine had dived down, when PM had gone on with an abusive one
09:42
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
Hi Lasse. We do not know exactly when the party took place, but the submarine was lowered at seven meters in Køge Bay
09:47
Comment from Micki
Hello. When you write the video material, reservations are for the legal members of the court, does it mean that it is not everyone in the audience who sees it?
09:47
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
Hi Micki. Yes, that means that it is only three judicial judges, three judges and the parties (defendants, prosecutors and defendants) who see it on their screen
09:47
Camilla Marie Nielsen
Then we're back after a short morning break. It is prosecutor Kristian Kirk, who again takes the floor. He continues his documentation of the case.
- Aug. 21, Kim Walls torso opens, explains the prosecutor.
- I want to show some pictures of that finding and I warn the content of the images, says the prosecutor who just wants to make sure the big screens are off.
09:47
Comment from Bo
What time is the trial on Wednesday?
09:47
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
Hello Bo. 9.30 - but come in time if you want to make an attempt to enter
09:49
Comment from Susuu
Is the judgment a woman or man this time
?
09:49
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
Hi Susuu. The President is a man. There are three men and three women who have to make the decision. Three 'ordinary' citizens and three judges
09:49
Camilla Marie Nielsen
Torsoen is found drifting at the waters edge of Dragør.
- In the autopsy statement, a row of injuries has been noted, says the prosecutor, who will now review some of the injuries.
09:51
Camilla Marie Nielsen
There are signs of violence alive on Kim Wall's bale, back and side. In addition, there are some lesions that are given about the onset of death. It is among other things in stitches and cuts lesions of the chest and stitches in the abdomen and abdomen.
09:53
Camilla Marie Nielsen
The prosecutor is now entering the ten stitches, six cuts and stitches and 15 stabbing years in the abdomen and abdomen, as found on the Kim Wall.
Here the court mediators also conclude that it can not be ruled out that some of the lesions are from the same sting - but just an entrance and an exit reading.
09:54
Prosecution of the submarine case, Kristian Kirk. Photo: Jens Dresling
09:54
Comment from Mette
Kristian Kirk - was he not also a prosecutor in the Kundby case?
09:54
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
Yes, he was. He looks like this:
09:56
Camilla Marie Nielsen
There have also been a number of lesions in the same area given after the onset of death. In addition, there are indications that the body parts amputation has been made after the onset of death.
- Several weapons of mass destruction may have been used, reads the prosecutor from the autopsy report, which describes, among other things, the possible gun weapons like a knife and a long cylindrical object.
09:56
Camilla Marie Nielsen
In addition, the forensic officer in the autopsy report writes that it has not been possible to determine a final cause of death.
09:56
Comment from Charlotte
When can you expect PM to be released if they confirm the lifetime judgment?
09:56
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
Hi Charlotte. According to brand new figures from the Criminal Service, there are five life-sentenced persons in the 2008-2017 period, which have been probed. Based on the five test results, the average attendance before trial death sentence is approximately 17 years. In total, pt. 25, who are sentenced to life, in the criminal prosecutor's institutions
09:58
Camilla Marie Nielsen
While the prosecutor reads out loudly, two drawings are shown on the hall's big screen, showing a black and white sketch of a torso and a sketch of a woman's abdomen.
Both sketches have a number of markings where the forensic clinics have found lesions on the Kim Wall.
10:00
Camilla Marie Nielsen
- It is clear that some of the stinging heroes in the abdomen are given alive. It is also clear that a number of the lesions are given after the death of the dead to release gases from the bodies, the prosecutor refers and refers to the verdict of April.
- In addition, it is mentioned that no DNA has been found from Peter Madsen on Kim Wall, the prosecutor says that instead, he has found herbs in Peter Madsen's underpants.
10:02
Camilla Marie Nielsen
The prosecutor again asks the court to turn off the big screens. This is because he now shows pictures of police findings of two plastic bags on the bottom of the ocean.
One bag contains strap straps, tools and a part of Kim Walls clothing. The other bag contains the head of Kim Wall.
"I have chosen to show only the plastic bag today and not the head," the prosecutor said to the legal members of the court, who are the only ones who can now see pictures.
10:04
Comment from Hans
Will he be sentenced to a harder punishment than life? Eg custody
10:04
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
It is a continuous discussion, whether life or custody is the country's toughest punishment. However, the rules are such that, at the earliest, one can apply for a probation test after 12 years at the earliest. Upon custody, the Criminal Investigation Board must, after three years, consider whether a request for proof of proclamation must be submitted to the prosecutor's office. It also requires an assessment from a psychiatrist if it is convicted of any continued dangers. The average time spent on custody and lifetime is roughly the same. The prosecutor's office in the case against Peter Madsen has an alternative claim for custody.
10:05
Comment from Picasso2
Are Jens Möller and Jacob Buch Jensen in place today?
10:05
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
No, they are not.
10:05
Camilla Marie Nielsen
The prosecutor is now entering the finding of Kim Wall's leg.
- Forensic Center, which has had a lot of work in this case, has been able to compare some marks on Kim Walls' legs with the straps that are secured in the case, the prosecutor says.
In addition, the prosecutor states that, from the founding of Kim Wall's head, Peter Madsen's initial explanation that Kim Wall died on board Nautilus could be ruled out as a result of an accident in which she got the submarine's head in the head.
10:09
Camilla Marie Nielsen
The prosecutor now deals with the lesions found on his head. They include eight stitch lesions, including a lesion in the cheek. In addition, some cuts on the ear and nose.
- Outward signs of violence arising after the onset of death is amputation, says the prosecutor, who also deals with two long cut-outs on Kim Wall's throat.
These are two lesions, which according to the forensics suggest that there may have been a throat crossing.
10:11
Camilla Marie Nielsen
October 10th, the police find a saw on the bottom of the ocean. It is a fake hood with orange handle.
- The saw is identical to a saw that is seen hanging on the wall in the room laboratory of Peter Madsen in a television interview that was recorded on the morning of August 10th, the prosecutor said with reference to the Byrett's verdict from April.
10:13
Camilla Marie Nielsen
The prosecutor reports that Peter Madsen has acknowledged that he has made the party of Kim Wall with the saw. In addition, the prosecutor tells how Peter Madsen has appointed the tapered screwdrivers, which he had also brought in the submarine Nautilus before the cruise on 10 August.
"It's a screwdriver like this," the prosecutor said, showing a 60 cm long screwdriver with a dark shaft.
10:15
Camilla Marie Nielsen
In connection with the investigation, the police will find the last two parts of the case during November. These are the arms of Kim Wall.
One arm has a lesion on the wrist which, according to the detective technicians, is identical to the width of the tension bands found in the submarine and at the bottom of Køge Bay.
10:17
Camilla Marie Nielsen
"Kim Wall has been fixed in the submarine's fair where the straps were attached. It is also here that most blood has been found in the submarine, the prosecutor says, also that the technicians can assess that 'a bleeding Kim Wall has also been in the submarine's toilet and bathroom'.
10:18
Camilla Marie Nielsen
Prosecutor Kristian Kirk now shows pictures of the metal plates that make up the bottom of the submarine. Here the technicians have also found blood - especially on the first two plates of the floor in the fair, a lot of blood has been detected.
10:20
Camilla Marie Nielsen
In the engine room underneath the metal plates, the forensics also find Kim Walls pants.
"There are some black pants that Peter Madsen has confirmed to belong to Kim Wall," said the prosecutor, emphasizing that the submarine has been filled with water, and that the place of impact is therefore not necessarily the scene.
"In the submarine there are also Kim Wall's tights and a number of hairbags," says the prosecutor.
10:24
Comment from Oskar
Do we know how Kim Wall's parents relate to this trial?
10:24
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
Hi Oskar. They are present in the courtroom and, of course, look serious. They have not been public in court because they do not want to deal with their killer's death or Kim Wall as a victim, but would rather remember her as the woman and journalist she was.
10:25
Camilla Marie Nielsen
"No experts have been able to determine how Kim Wall was killed," says the prosecutor, pointing out that a study of Kim Wall's lungs indicates that the cause of death can be a choking.
There are, among other things, signs of 'acute airflow of the lungs', indicating that the respiratory tract has been blocked.
In addition, the prosecutor addresses the possibility that Kim Wall has been killed by throat crossing. This is due to two cut loops on the neck of Kim Walls, which runs along the cervical veins.
- It is estimated that the cuts on both the right and left sides of the throat may have an effect on the cause of death, reads the prosecutor from the report of forensic medicine.
"There are two possibilities for a cause of death, and that is why the prosecutor's office today and in the district court has chosen not to establish a cause of death," the prosecutor said.
10:25
Comment from Zoey
Hi! When is it break and can you come as usual to belong if there are 3 free places?
10:25
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
Hi Zoey. I simply do not know if it's possible - or if it's only possible to get them in the morning
10:28
Camilla Marie Nielsen
Prosecutors show macabre weaponry
Prosecutor Kristian Kirk appeared today a 60 cm long tapered screwdriver in the Eastern High Court. According to the district court and prosecutor's office, the screwdriver, which has a dark shaft, is identical to the screwdrivers that Peter Madsen carried in the submarine prior to August 10 last year.
It also agrees with the bullet-like gun weapon, which the forensics believe has been used against Kim Wall.
10:31
Camilla Marie Nielsen
Prosecutor Kristian Kirk is now entering Peter Madsen's search history 14 hours before sailing out with Kim Wall.
A restoration of Peter Madsen's cell phone reveals that Peter Madsen searched for 'Girl', 'Pain' and 'Halshugning' on google and soon after a video of a woman who is killed. The same video is found on one of the hard drives, which is secured by Peter Madsen's space lab.
- I allow myself to say that the video shows a rattling woman who gets his throat cut, says the prosecutor, who is playing the video now.
It will only be shown to the court's legal members, but the whole room can run the video's sound.
It is a violent and very unpleasant soundtrack that clearly reveals a woman in great pain.
10:34
Camilla Marie Nielsen
The prosecutor now plays another execution video, which, according to the prosecutor, shows the killing of another woman.
Again, it is only the sound that the audience's other audience can hear. There is a dramatic music game, while one's pain-jam can be heard.
Prosecutor Kristian Kirk may have to escape before he can continue his documentation.
10:35
Camilla Marie Nielsen
In addition, the prosecutor addresses the texts of "highly disturbing character" found on Peter Madsen's computer.
The texts deal with sexual abuse in particular the excitement of women.
10:36
Camilla Marie Nielsen
- I will only read a few extracts of the texts. This is because, in our view, they are important to show Peter Madsen's inclinations, says the accusations.
10:37
Camilla Marie Nielsen
The prosecutor now reads from the one text that deals with a young girl living with her sisters. In the home there is a spear on the wall. And it describes how the young girls get schooled in the face of women.
10:41
Camilla Marie Nielsen
The text also describes how a female neighbor is killed by spitting. The text is of a strong sexual nature, where the male characters are greatly excited by the excitement they perform on a number of women.
Also the young girl who is the main character in the text is greatly excited by the excitement. It's extremely macabre and scary reading.
10:42
Camilla Marie Nielsen
The prosecutor continues to read from the rather unpleasant texts. It is graphic and creepy content where young girls and women are exposed to abuse and killing.
10:44
Camilla Marie Nielsen
One text also describes the desire to cut a throat to a woman. The texts are all short stories, derived from a website on the web, and as the detectives have found on hard disks and computers confiscated in connection with the investigation.
10:45
Camilla Marie Nielsen
While reading the texts, Peter Madsen accompanies reading through his own papers lying on the table in front of him.
10:45
Camilla Marie Nielsen
There is no immediate trace in Peter Madsen's face while the texts are read up.
10:49
Camilla Marie Nielsen
The prosecutor now says that it is not possible for the police to find out when the texts have been downloaded, accessed or why Peter Madsen has them in their possession.
Nevertheless, the prosecutor believes that the texts are relevant to the case.
10:54
Camilla Marie Nielsen
The prosecutor is now briefly referring to his claim for confirmation of the District Court's verdict of lifetime to Peter Madsen. In court, he tells him that he will later come to the conclusion of the negotiations why he believes that the verdict must be confirmed.
At the same time, the prosecutor states that the national court may also choose to give custody to Peter Madsen.
"All medical requirements are met in relation to custody," says the prosecutor, referring to the mental examination conducted by Peter Madsen, where the Counseling Council recommends custody. A study which will also be presented later in the hearing.
"A third option for the court is to relax the decision of the city court," says the prosecutor.
10:56
Comment from Tor
What type of clip is it, is it real movie or a form of animation / play?
10:56
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
Hello Tor. A real movie has been shown by a woman who gets his throat crossed - and then an animation film, a cartoon of music where the mood suddenly changes. We did not see the animation film today, but we did that in the town court - and they were uncomfortable even though it's hard to imagine when it's just a cartoon
10:58
Camilla Marie Nielsen
Before the lunch break, defender Betina Hald Engmark would like to have the floor.
She is now entering into the purpose of a referral to the court, which the prosecutor has just completed. She is a bit dissatisfied with the way the prosecutor has submitted the case this morning.
- It is important that a submission is an objective and relevant statement of the case and that in the case that can be used as a decision, the defendant says, asking the court to disregard a number of remarks in prosecution of Kristian Kirk's submission.
- Among other things, the prosecutor said that the case could be described 'with horror and horror', says Betina Hald Engmark in the hall.
10:59
Comment from The Wonder
Has always found something missing in the case. At first it was "why is she already almost wanted by the girlfriend in the evening?". And now, I think, why is a man with a high IQ apparently planning a murder of someone with a public deal? It seems like he would be caught and have the world's attention with this deeply terrible and terrible murder. I simply do not understand.
10:59
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
Hi The Wondering. The girlfriend reported her missing so quickly, because they had a party together that night with guests and agreed when she was at home. Then I might think I would have been worried if my boyfriend had not returned home after an excursion, which is a little scary in itself. Around 'the public' you are right in your wonder - because they are completely sailing out of Copenhagen Harbor, taking pictures, talking to people, etc. But we can never answer that
10:59
Camilla Marie Nielsen
In addition, the defense attorney asks the court to keep in mind that the police can not say when the played videos and animations have been accessed and downloaded from the network.
"In fact, you can not say anything about whether these films have been seen," says the defender.
11:00
Comment from Sidsel
Will Peter Madsen comment?
11:00
Answer from Linette K. Jespersen
Hi Sidsel. There is no hope that Peter Madsen will come up with a new explanation. His explanation in the city court is read by the defender. Perhaps he will say something when we come to his personal relationship.
11:01
Camilla Marie Nielsen
- We are sitting here because my client is not satisfied with the survey that was reached in the city court. It is alone the punishment that the court has to decide on, and therefore only those things that may have a bearing on the sentence of punishment at which the court is to be based, says the defense attorney before giving thanks for the word.
