If you had somebody else’s phone - would you answer incoming calls?
Absolutely! There is a possibility that the phone owner has asked someone else to call the phone to locate it.
If you had somebody else’s phone - would you answer incoming calls?
I didn't know that TT had drug problems.
Why would Danniella choose to "get out of dodge" without her phone or her daughter? Why wouldn't she go to the police and report that she was threatened by crazed drug people?
IMO Nothing about DW adds up to me - I'm sure LE knows more than we do...however, despite that, he has not been cleared.....sadly without finding DNV alive or her body...we may never know...
I think some of you know more than I do about DWs calls: who did he alert when she didn't show at Dublins - the rest of the party train at Ollies or someone else?
He called in morning (after somehow accessing phone) to call JDT - he did not say he was worried - doesn't seem he told the full story: he simply says he has 'this girls' phone....also find it very odd to say he thinks phone is 'important' because there's pictures of a little girl - HUH? Why does that make her phone important? Odd.....
One thing I'm wondering for those who saw the CCTV before LE had it pulled:
It's been said that there weren't any people moving between the cars, getting out of them, in them, etc. - is that a fact...OR
Is it that CCTV too murky to see if people moving between the cars?
First, if fact no one is moving between/in/out of cars: DW lying about DNV being out of her car....
but even more so: all the people of these events were always in their respective vehicles....so whomever dismantled DNV GPS was already in that car.....so no one from car #3 got out & did so, much less anyone from any car getting into DNVs that wasn't already there......
Suggests DNV may not having been driving since leaving Dublin's......(if you assume she did not dismantle GPS)
Also wondering how it is that DW, without a doubt is Car #2 (DNV is #1 right?) - however, it isn't clear if car #3 is DW or not......
I don't understand that - should be obvious.....I can only take it that car #3 parks in such a manner that it isn't clear in CCTV.....?
Possible DW drives off, comes back - maybe because DNV car not following...or some other need to communicate something...
I am open to idea car #3 is DW....but doubt it.
Sure wish Dublin's had CCTV - could see when he pulls in (not to mention see what went down in parking lot prior to leaving) - would have made easy to know if he could be car#3....
Fact DW lied, has the phone of a missing gal, who he just happens to be the last person to see her, he did NOT say he was worried on the 18th, distances himself, doesn't go back to check if she's okay, ditches his rental car...eh, I could go on & on.....until LE clears him as a suspect: I'm not......
I am hoping that more information will come out about JT - just because Danni wasn't found there doesn't mean there isn't some kind of connection....
IMO Nothing about DW adds up to me - I'm sure LE knows more than we do...however, despite that, he has not been cleared.....sadly without finding DNV alive or her body...we may never know...
I think some of you know more than I do about DWs calls: who did he alert when she didn't show at Dublins - the rest of the party train at Ollies or someone else?
He called in morning (after somehow accessing phone) to call JDT - he did not say he was worried - doesn't seem he told the full story: he simply says he has 'this girls' phone....also find it very odd to say he thinks phone is 'important' because there's pictures of a little girl - HUH? Why does that make her phone important? Odd.....
One thing I'm wondering for those who saw the CCTV before LE had it pulled:
It's been said that there weren't any people moving between the cars, getting out of them, in them, etc. - is that a fact...OR
Is it that CCTV too murky to see if people moving between the cars?
First, if fact no one is moving between/in/out of cars: DW lying about DNV being out of her car....
but even more so: all the people of these events were always in their respective vehicles....so whomever dismantled DNV GPS was already in that car.....so no one from car #3 got out & did so, much less anyone from any car getting into DNVs that wasn't already there......
Suggests DNV may not having been driving since leaving Dublin's......(if you assume she did not dismantle GPS)
Also wondering how it is that DW, without a doubt is Car #2 (DNV is #1 right?) - however, it isn't clear if car #3 is DW or not......
I don't understand that - should be obvious.....I can only take it that car #3 parks in such a manner that it isn't clear in CCTV.....?
Possible DW drives off, comes back - maybe because DNV car not following...or some other need to communicate something...
I am open to idea car #3 is DW....but doubt it.
Sure wish Dublin's had CCTV - could see when he pulls in (not to mention see what went down in parking lot prior to leaving) - would have made easy to know if he could be car#3....
Fact DW lied, has the phone of a missing gal, who he just happens to be the last person to see her, he did NOT say he was worried on the 18th, distances himself, doesn't go back to check if she's okay, ditches his rental car...eh, I could go on & on.....until LE clears him as a suspect: I'm not......
I am hoping that more information will come out about JT - just because Danni wasn't found there doesn't mean there isn't some kind of connection....
IMO Nothing about DW adds up to me - I'm sure LE knows more than we do...however, despite that, he has not been cleared.....sadly without finding DNV alive or her body...we may never know...
I think some of you know more than I do about DWs calls: who did he alert when she didn't show at Dublins - the rest of the party train at Ollies or someone else?
He called in morning (after somehow accessing phone) to call JDT - he did not say he was worried - doesn't seem he told the full story: he simply says he has 'this girls' phone....also find it very odd to say he thinks phone is 'important' because there's pictures of a little girl - HUH? Why does that make her phone important? Odd.....
One thing I'm wondering for those who saw the CCTV before LE had it pulled:
It's been said that there weren't any people moving between the cars, getting out of them, in them, etc. - is that a fact...OR
Is it that CCTV too murky to see if people moving between the cars?
First, if fact no one is moving between/in/out of cars: DW lying about DNV being out of her car....
but even more so: all the people of these events were always in their respective vehicles....so whomever dismantled DNV GPS was already in that car.....so no one from car #3 got out & did so, much less anyone from any car getting into DNVs that wasn't already there......
Suggests DNV may not having been driving since leaving Dublin's......(if you assume she did not dismantle GPS)
Also wondering how it is that DW, without a doubt is Car #2 (DNV is #1 right?) - however, it isn't clear if car #3 is DW or not......
I don't understand that - should be obvious.....I can only take it that car #3 parks in such a manner that it isn't clear in CCTV.....?
Possible DW drives off, comes back - maybe because DNV car not following...or some other need to communicate something...
I am open to idea car #3 is DW....but doubt it.
Sure wish Dublin's had CCTV - could see when he pulls in (not to mention see what went down in parking lot prior to leaving) - would have made easy to know if he could be car#3....
Fact DW lied, has the phone of a missing gal, who he just happens to be the last person to see her, he did NOT say he was worried on the 18th, distances himself, doesn't go back to check if she's okay, ditches his rental car...eh, I could go on & on.....until LE clears him as a suspect: I'm not......
I am hoping that more information will come out about JT - just because Danni wasn't found there doesn't mean there isn't some kind of connection....
She didn’t have custody of her daughter and probably wouldn’t want to be on the run with a 4 year old in tow anyway. She may have felt as though her child was safer with JDT. Again, her phone could be tracked. If she wanted to disappear and not be found, she wouldn’t take a trackable device with her.
Where did the term "party train" originate? Four people went out for a drink at The Dublin. Two people went to Ollies at 10:45, two didn't. That's hardly a "Party Train." In fact, the term "Party Train" implies drunken irresponsible party animals. There is nothing about Danni's disappearance that suggests a drunken irresponsible night. The term "bar hopping" has also been used. Where did that originate? The party of four were at one restaurant, two drove to another restaurant. How we use language is important.
No one has been cleared at this point.
We don't know what DW said to Danni's mother-in-law at 7:30AM, but we can assume that DW informed the mother-in-law that he had Danni's phone, that Danni did not meet him at The Dublin as planned to collect the phone at 11:30PM, and that he wanted to return the phone.
We know for a fact that Danni and DW drove to the Shell station. They were at the station together for less than 2 minutes, and made a plan to return to The Dublin to look for the phone. DW left the Shell station at 11:07. Danni was in the process of leaving when a third car pulled into the Shell station. Danni's car and the third car left 16 minutes later after her GPS was disabled.
If DW is Car 3, then DW and Danni disabled the GPS. They left the Shell station together at 11:24PM. The only reason for Danni to disable the GPS is because she is voluntarily missing - but the problem with that is that nothing else supports a voluntary disappearance. No one believes that she chose to disappear. Therefore, DW is not Car 3.
What did DW lie about?
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On June 17, Danni mapped out what she needed to accomplish in order to have custody of her daughter, and she was in the process of achieving the goals on that list.
Of course she didn't want to go "on the run" with her daughter. If she was threatened by TT's drug friends (that is the hypothetical context of this comment) she would do the normal thing and report it to police.
I was very confused by the Party Train language. I was offline for a couple days during the last thread when it originated. I went back and could not find find out exactly where it came from. It was something that definitely threw me off for a bit until I realized it was just four people and two bars.
Our VI has said both TT and JDT have been cleared.......
All I know is, according to DW, he was going straight home...then at one, decides he needs to return his car - he wasn't planning to until after the Shell, after DNV doesn't show, after he was her phone......also: he arrived at Ollies @ midnight...stays a few minutes...that gives 45 minutes, possibly more wherein he is...where? How far is the car rental place?
The only person who knew something was wrong was DW: from the timeline posted earlier - when DW called JDT there was no mention of him saying he was worried, alarmed, concerned....so therefore JDT didn't think there was reason to be.
I have no idea why DW wouldn't call & make very clear he was worried, that the last time he saw DNV was close to midnight at closed gas station in a bad part of town.
Another thing was wondering: I thought one of the party train was DNVs closer friend...think initial is 'R'.....this person was at Ollie's right?
Wondering why DW didn't give R the phone? Wouldn't R know where she lived, where she worked....?
DW didn't have to go through JDT or her phone - he had R to help him.....
What I understand is the rest of the party train is mum about it all...
like to know if R ever went to her house to check on her -?
Fact is not only primarily DW, but the party train too knew something wrong had happened: none of them went to the police......it isn't until the 20th that JDT does...
I don't know: if my friend vanished the night before I'd be at that police station next day ASAP....
That's not true. There's always reports and research done to show that people who are truly scared and threatened don't go to the police.
That's not true. There's always reports and research done to show that people who are truly scared and threatened don't go to the police.
Perhaps she had a friend or relative ready to take her in and ensure she was safe. And if her life was in danger, the goals would be secondary to her survival. There was a FB post by her biological mother that said she had wanted to disappear.The reason I do not think the "escape" until things cool down theory works is it sounds temporary. So escape for how long. For someone who was clearly working to make a better life for her and her daughter it would not be a very good idea. DNV wrote down her goals on paper which to me suggest she was serious and taking responsibility for herself/life. Also that we know of, she did not have any cash, bank accounts or means (except her car) to take care of herself in her escape.
Not saying he had anything to do with it. Saying she could have been trying to sidetrack him so he would not
See her heading East or West on I10. And, if she wanted to disappear and not be tracked, she most certainly would not take her cell phone with her when she skipped town. Phones can be tracked. If this scenario were to be what occurred, it would explain DW’s statement that he did not know why she was following him. She may not have been following him... they could have unintentionally been on the same route but going to different places. And yes, he notified JDT the next morning, some 8 hours later, and she could have been in Texas by then...
In this scenario you could have a desperate TT that needed money to repay a loan or repay a dealer?Just to keep this clear - it was suggested upthread that TT had dangerous drug friends who may have threatened Danni at the Shell station and, on that basis, she chose to disappear. I don't want anyone to suggest that I have made these claims about TT. I will, however, respond to this hypothetical suggestion.
You seem to be suggesting that Danni had a good reason to be afraid of TT's friends, especially because he has connections to drugs. Further to this, the implication is that the friends were so scary that she would be afraid to report the threats from TT's friends to police. Do I understand correctly?
Thank you! Regarding DW delivering Danniella's phone to a restaurant, imagine that you misplace your phone. A friend calls your family memberat 7:30AM to report that you and your phone are separated, that you missed an appointment to retrieve the phone at 11:30PM and that you are unreachable.
What does your family member do: tell the friend to take your phone to a restaurant where you work, tell your friend to drop it off at your house, ask your friend how to pick up your phone ASAP?