GUILTY ND - Savanna Lafontaine-Greywind, 22, pregnant, Fargo, 19 Aug 2017 #3

[margarita25]

Angeline McCall on Twitter
Angeline McCall‏ @amccallWDAY
Defense: Hoehn wanted to believe Crews was pregnant. When he walked into that bathroom door with the woman he loved next to a body, he helped Crews... He should have called police. But he didn’t. #HoehnTrial #SavannaGreywind

Angeline McCall on Twitter
Angeline McCall‏ @amccallWDAY 2m2 minutes ago
Defense: William loved Brooke, she asked him to help cover up a murder, and he did. #HoehnTrial #SavannaGreywind

Are any of you guys buying any of this?

Maybe he really thought she was really pregnant and really aided in the coverup only (ugh like that’s not bad enough)...What do you guys think? Accessory after the fact only?

Did she wear a “‘moon bump”? (I learned that term in another case here) Trying to remember...

(That was wild how my Native American friends and I had a ceremony around the fire and she was found that night.)

 

[margarita25]

Angeline McCall on Twitter
Angeline McCall‏ @amccallWDAY 3m3 minutes ago
Officer Bollman says he looked inside the bathroom. The shower curtain was closed, but it looked like a 'normal bathroom.' Officer Bollman says he saw William Hoehn lying on the bed when he was there. #HoehnTrial #SavannaGreywind

Raju Chaduvula on Twitter
Raju Chaduvula‏ @raju_chaduvula 54s55 seconds ago
Bollman: apartment was very neat and tidy. Nothing was out of place. Nothing of concern in bathroom and kitchen. Bollman said he didn't check the far side of the bed during the initial search and that the curtains were drawn on the bathtub. #HoehnTrial

Gosh, we talked about the initial cursory search.

How could this officer have ever imagined or envisioned such an awful thing at the time?

So WH was “lying on the bed”.

 

[margarita25]

Angeline McCall on Twitter
Angeline McCall‏ @amccallWDAY 17m17 minutes ago
Hoehn now says that he saw blood all over the floor when he walked into the apartment on August 19th. #HoehnTrial #SavannaGreywind

Angeline McCall on Twitter
Angeline McCall‏ @amccallWDAY 15m15 minutes ago
Q: What did you do with all the blood?
Hoehn: He says he grabbed some towels and rags. He continues that he threw them away in West Fargo. #HoehnTrial #SavannaGreywind

Raju Chaduvula on Twitter
Raju Chaduvula‏ @raju_chaduvula 13m13 minutes ago
Video: Police ask what Hoehn did with the blood he said he found. Hoehn said he cleaned it up and threw the materials away in a dumpster in West Fargo. #HoehnTrial

Angeline McCall on Twitter
Angeline McCall‏ @amccallWDAY 13m13 minutes ago
Q: What was in the bags?
Hoehn: I threw my shoes away, tennis shes. #HoehnTrial #SavannaGreywind

Raju Chaduvula on Twitter
Raju Chaduvula‏ @raju_chaduvula 12m12 minutes ago
Court will now take a break until 3:10 p.m. #HoehnTrial

Ugh. This is all so hard to read. Poor Savannah.

What a miracle Haisley Jo is.

 

[margarita25]

Raju Chaduvula on Twitter
Raju Chaduvula‏ @raju_chaduvula 8m8 minutes ago
It is possible the defense will introduce a police interview with Brooke Crews during his cross-examination of Det. Loos. Judge Olson said he will permit the defense to do so. #HoehnTrial

Yeah What is BC saying? Did she say if he supposedly knew or not that she really wasn’t pregnant? It’s been a year (unbelievable), some of the details I’m forgetting.

 

[margarita25]

Raju Chaduvula on Twitter
Raju Chaduvula‏ @raju_chaduvula 5m5 minutes ago
Day four of William Hoehn's trial is underway. The jury will soon be called in. #HoehnTrial

Sarah Rudlang WDAY on Twitter
Sarah Rudlang WDAY‏ @sarahrudlang 3m3 minutes ago
Day 4 is kicking off with debate between State, Defense and Judge Olson on state's request to have a doctor come in to testify the process it takes to do a C-section. State believes context on process will show jury that Crews couldn't do it alone. #HoehnTrial

Raju Chaduvula on Twitter
Raju Chaduvula‏ @raju_chaduvula 2m2 minutes ago
The attorneys are currently arguing about the state's intent to call upon a doctor who can testify to he procedure of a C-section and how long it takes, to show that Brooke Crews couldn't have acted alone when she performed the C-section on Savanna. #HoehnTrial


Raju Chaduvula on Twitter
Raju Chaduvula‏ @raju_chaduvula 15s16 seconds ago
Judge Tom Olson granted the state their request. The jury is now seated. The video from yesterday, Hoehn's second interview with police on Aug. 24, 2017, will resume shortly. #HoehnTrial

Oh wow, “couldn’t have acted alone”..

Ugh I hate this thread. So sorry, Savanna. . At least you can be happy that your baby is safe and being raised with daddy. And that tyhese monsters are behind bars.

Oh please put this awful man WH away, if he is indeed guilty.

 

[KALI]

I hope that the clan of Greywinds have friends inside the prison system.
Perhaps, they will befriend these two murdering .
One can only hope...

Oh wow, “couldn’t have acted alone”..

Ugh I hate this thread. So sorry, Savanna. . At least you can be happy that your baby is safe and being raised with daddy. And that tyhese monsters are behind bars.

Oh please put this awful man WH away, if he is indeed guilty.

 

[margarita25]

I hope that the clan of Greywinds have friends inside the prison system.
Perhaps, they will befriend these two murdering .
One can only hope...

KALI, this is just surreal reading all this, remembering this awful awful case, just no words.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

I’ve been following this case, but I haven’t commented. This case has a very special spot in my heart. My brother played drums with the Manoomin Singers at the We are Savanna pre sentence rally in Fargo on the eve of sentencing. That evening (Feb 1st), after the rally my brother passed away unexpectedly of a heart attack. He had just turned 48.
I hope Justice is served.

 

[Spellbound]

Oh Tippy, how sad. Your brother was so young. What a special memory you will carry. Bless him for playing at the rally. (((Hug)))

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Oh Tippy, how sad. Your brother was so young. What a special memory you will carry. Bless him for playing at the rally. (((Hug)))

Thank you. My big brother was a gift and I am grateful for all the great memories.

 

[Spellbound]

Thank you. My big brother was a gift and I am grateful for all the great memories.

Made me smile. A little sad, but so happy you had the time with him. (((Hig)))

 

[Niner]

Red is an update on 9/21.

Monday, Sept. 24th:
*Trial continues (Day 5) (@ 9am CT) - ND - Savanna Marie LaFontaine-Greywind (22) (Aug. 19, 2017) - William Henry Hoehn (32) indicted (8/19/17) with conspiracy to commit murder (Class AA Felony). Plead not guilty. $2M cash bond. Plead guilty (9/4/18) to conspiracy to commit kidnapping (Class A Felony) & giving false info to LE (Class A Misdemeanor).
Trial was set for 5/15/18 but cancelled, continued to 9/18/18.
9/4/18 Update: Hoehn pleaded guilty Tuesday to charges of kidnapping and providing false information to law enforcement in the August 2017 death of Savanna. Hoehn is still scheduled for trial on Sept. 18 on a charge of conspiracy to commit murder. Felony Jury Trial 9/18, 9/19, 9/20, 9/21, 9/24, 9/25, 9/26, 9/27, 9/28.
9/10/18 Update: Request to have his murder conspiracy trial moved out of Fargo has been denied. Hoehn had asked that his trial on conspiracy to commit murder be relocated to Burleigh County because of media coverage of the case. Cass County District Judge Thomas Olson rejected the request in an order filed Monday, Sept. 10.
9/18/18 Update: Day 1: Trial ends with jury of 8 women and 6 men chosen. Opening statements will start 9 a.m. Wed., Sept. 19.
9/19/18 Update: Day 2: Opening statements by both sides. Witnesses: Jesse Rios (owns roofing business), Hoehn's boss. David Henry, co-worker & lived in same apt. bldg (known him for 4 to 5 years. Nortberta Greywind, Savanna’s mother. Joe Greywind, Savanna’s father. Last witness for the day, Detective Samuel Bollman, Fargo police responded to 911 call. The defense chose not to cross-examine any of the State's witnesses this afternoon. Trial continues to 9/20.
9/20/18 Update: Day 3: Witness: Joshua Loos, 12 year Fargo Police Dept. veteran, did LE interviews (8/23/17 & 8/24/17) with Hoehn & Crews. Also played LE interview on 8/24 after baby was found. The jury listened all day to Hoehn's interviews with police, & what stories they told them about what happened to Savanna & her baby.
9/21/18 Update: Day 4: State requests to have Doctor to testify on procedure for c-section, how long it takes & to show Crews could not do this alone. Judge grants request. Det. Loos is back. Video from Hoehn's 8/24/17 LE interview concludes. Then Crews 8/24/17 LE interview is played. Next witness Brandon McCollum, a forensic scientist with the FBI’s DNA Casework Unit. Dr. Frederick Kieley, pediatric physician at Sanford Health (re c-section). Det. Mark Voigtschild, personalized crime detective with Fargo PD (goes over crime scene photos). Sandra Salisbury, a data analytics manager, searcher who found Savanna's body. Kelsey Helgeson was an employee of a local dollar store where Savanna's mother worked. Trial continues at 9am 9/24.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Here's what to expect in the Hoehn trial this week, plus recap...

 

[Hraefn]

Link to live blog covering trial (tweets with #hoehntrial posted here)
Live Blog: Medical examiner who performed Savanna's autopsy takes...

 

[Hraefn]

Angeline McCall
@amccallWDAY
Hoehn Trial: It’s Day 5 and the start of the second week for the #HoehnTrial . @sarahrudlang and I will be tweeting again as the trial continues for @WDAYnews#SavannaGreywind

10:25 AM - 24 Sep 2018

Raju Chaduvula
@raju_chaduvula
Dr. Victor Froloff, with the Ramsey County Medical Examiner's Office in St. Paul, is the first witness for today. #HoehnTrial

10:37 AM - 24 Sep 2018

Sarah Rudlang WDAY
@sarahrudlang


Dr. Foloff says he's done about 4,000 autopsies in his career, 300 per year. He trained in the Soviet Union, before coming here 25 years ago, completely re-doing his education. He says he testifies often in court, about twice per month. #HoehnTrial


Sarah Rudlang WDAY
@sarahrudlang


Dr. Froloff explains that when he performed the autopsy the morning of Aug. 28, Savanna's body was in a moderate state of decomposition, inside a "low quality" thin black garbage bag. Graphic images ahead. #HoehnTrial

 

[Hraefn]

Sarah Rudlang WDAY
@sarahrudlang
Dr. Froloff is explaining photos of Savanna's body to the jury. He says she was still in a state of pregnancy, because the placenta was attached to the enlarged uterus. #HoehnTrial

11:08 AM - 24 Sep 2018

Raju Chaduvula
@raju_chaduvula
Froloff said it is difficult for him to accurately say how long Savanna had been dead because of the level of decomposition.#HoehnTrial

11:15 AM - 24 Sep 2018

Sarah Rudlang WDAY
@sarahrudlang
William Hoehn is no longer looking at the screen of photos, he is looking straight ahead, chin resting in hand. Dr. Froloff is explaining that her uterus being outside the body is unusual, a case he doesn't often see. #HoehnTrial

11:20 AM - 24 Sep 2018

 

[Emi]

Angeline McCall on Twitter
Angeline McCall‏ @amccallWDAY 54m54 minutes ago
Hoehn Trial: It’s Day 5 and the start of the second week for the #HoehnTrial. @sarahrudlang and I will be tweeting again as the trial continues for @WDAYnews #SavannaGreywind

Sarah Rudlang WDAY on Twitter
Sarah Rudlang WDAY‏ @sarahrudlang 42m42 minutes ago
The State is now calling Dr. Victor Froloff, with the Ramsey County Medical Examiner's office to the stand. He performed Savanna's autopsy. #HoehnTrial

Raju Chaduvula on Twitter
Raju Chaduvula‏ @raju_chaduvula 49m49 minutes ago
Judge Olson and the attorneys have returned. What the issue was is still not clear. The jury is now being seated. #HoehnTrial

Raju Chaduvula on Twitter
Raju Chaduvula‏ @raju_chaduvula 1h1 hour ago
The attorneys are meeting with Judge Tom Olson in his chambers to discuss something prior to bringing in the jury. What the issue is wasn't stated in the courtroom. #HoehnTrial

Raju Chaduvula on Twitter
Raju Chaduvula‏ @raju_chaduvula 2h2 hours ago
The fifth day in the trial of William Hoehn will resume shortly, at about 9 a.m. #HoehnTrial

Raju Chaduvula on Twitter
Raju Chaduvula‏ @raju_chaduvula 48m48 minutes ago
Dr. Victor Froloff, with the Ramsey County Medical Examiner's Office in St. Paul, is the first witness for today. #HoehnTrial

Sarah Rudlang WDAY on Twitter
Sarah Rudlang WDAY‏ @sarahrudlang 1h1 hour ago
State, Defense have been meeting with Judge Olson for over 20 minutes in private chambers ahead of Day 5 of William Hoehn's murder conspiracy trial. #HoehnTrial


Sarah Rudlang WDAY on Twitter
Sarah Rudlang WDAY‏ @sarahrudlang 31m31 minutes ago
Dr. Froloff explains that when he performed the autopsy the morning of Aug. 28, Savanna's body was in a moderate state of decomposition, inside a "low quality" thin black garbage bag. Graphic images ahead. #HoehnTrial

Raju Chaduvula on Twitter
Raju Chaduvula‏ @raju_chaduvula 12m12 minutes ago
Froloff said it is difficult for him to accurately say how long Savanna had been dead because of the level of decomposition.#HoehnTrial

Sarah Rudlang WDAY on Twitter
Sarah Rudlang WDAY‏ @sarahrudlang 20m20 minutes ago
Dr. Froloff is explaining photos of Savanna's body to the jury. He says she was still in a state of pregnancy, because the placenta was attached to the enlarged uterus. #HoehnTrial



Raju Chaduvula on Twitter
Raju Chaduvula‏ @raju_chaduvula 32m32 minutes ago
Judge Olson warns the jury that the autopsy pictures may "be unusual" to see but tells them to take it as evidence. #HoehnTrial

 

[Vedder]

Are any of you guys buying any of this?

Maybe he really thought she was really pregnant and really aided in the coverup only (ugh like that’s not bad enough)...What do you guys think? Accessory after the fact only?

Did she wear a “‘moon bump”? (I learned that term in another case here) Trying to remember...

(That was wild how my Native American friends and I had a ceremony around the fire and she was found that night.)

BBM - Nope.

 

[Emi]

Sarah Rudlang WDAY on Twitter
Sarah Rudlang WDAY‏ @sarahrudlang 12m12 minutes ago
William Hoehn is no longer looking at the screen of photos, he is looking straight ahead, chin resting in hand. Dr. Froloff is explaining that her uterus being outside the body is unusual, a case he doesn't often see. #HoehnTrial

Sarah Rudlang WDAY on Twitter
Sarah Rudlang WDAY‏ @sarahrudlang 4m4 minutes ago
The first break of Day 5 is now underway. #HoehnTrial

Angeline McCall on Twitter
Angeline McCall‏ @amccallWDAY 51m51 minutes ago
The first break is now over and we're picking it up where we left off with Dr. Froloff, the medical examiner. #HoehnTrial #SavannaGreywind

Sarah Rudlang WDAY on Twitter
Sarah Rudlang WDAY‏ @sarahrudlang 48m48 minutes ago
Trial is continuing with Dr. Froloff's autopsy account. @amccallWDAY and @raju_chaduvula continue the live tweets from inside the courthouse. #HoehnTrial

Angeline McCall on Twitter
Angeline McCall‏ @amccallWDAY 40m40 minutes ago
Dr. Froloff says that when he suspects asphyxiation, he looks at the muscles in the neck, layer by layer. Bones in Savanna's neck were not completely broken, but that doesn't necessarily mean she was or wasn't strangled. #HoehnTrial #SavannaGreywind

Angeline McCall on Twitter
Angeline McCall‏ @amccallWDAY 38m38 minutes ago
Dr. Froloff says Savanna **may have possibly been strangled to death, but he says this was a somewhat difficult autopsy to perform. He'll explain some other complications shortly. #HoehnTrial #SavannaGreywind

Angeline McCall on Twitter
Angeline McCall‏ @amccallWDAY 30m30 minutes ago
The State is now looking at the specific injury to Savanna's abdomen. The direction of the cut was mostly horizontal. Many of these pictures being shown are difficult to see, William Hoehn is looking down and not staring at the most gruesome pics. #HoehnTrial #SavannaGreywind

Angeline McCall on Twitter
Angeline McCall‏ @amccallWDAY 30m30 minutes ago
Dr. Froloff says that there is no evidence of IV access on Savanna's body. In most pregnancy cases, he will see a small hole where an IV was placed to put the woman in a deep sleep for the surgical procedure. #HoehnTrial #SavannaGreywind

Raju Chaduvula on Twitter
Raju Chaduvula‏ @raju_chaduvula 27m27 minutes ago
Froloff said there was no evidence of blood-stopping measures on Savanna's body -- measures that would be taken by a hospital staff during a C-section procedure. #HoehnTrial

Angeline McCall on Twitter
Angeline McCall‏ @amccallWDAY 26m26 minutes ago
Other than the ligature (rope) around Savanna's neck, Dr. Froloff says there was no other 'pain management system' used during Savanna's out-of-hospital c-section. What Savanna went through is excruciating pain. #HoehnTrial #SavannaGreywind

Raju Chaduvula on Twitter
Raju Chaduvula‏ @raju_chaduvula 26m26 minutes ago
Froloff said there wasn't any sign that showed anesthesia was administered. #HoehnTrial

Angeline McCall on Twitter
Angeline McCall‏ @amccallWDAY 21m21 minutes ago
Froloff says that the umbilical cord was hanging out of Savanna's womb when the autopsy was done. In this case, the placenta was still attached to Savanna's body, which means her organs and body were still in a pregnancy stage. #HoehnTrial #SavannaGreywind

Angeline McCall on Twitter
Angeline McCall‏ @amccallWDAY 17m17 minutes ago
Q: Would the abdomen cut be fatal? Froloff answers that nothing was done to stop Savanna's bleeding, and there are two competitive causes of death: either bleeding to death or strangulation. The official cause of death is 'homicidal violence.' #HoehnTrial #SavannaGreywind

Angeline McCall on Twitter
Angeline McCall‏ @amccallWDAY 16m16 minutes ago
Froloff says he can't say which preceded the other, either the strangulation or bleeding. #HoehnTrial #SavannaGreywind

Angeline McCall on Twitter
Angeline McCall‏ @amccallWDAY 15m15 minutes ago
Froloff says he can't say how long it would take someone to die from bleeding. It varies from minutes to hours, depending on the injury. #HoehnTrial #SavannaGreywind

Angeline McCall on Twitter
Angeline McCall‏ @amccallWDAY 13m13 minutes ago
Froloff says that there was no damage to Savanna's major blood vessels. #HoehnTrial #SavannaGreywind

Raju Chaduvula on Twitter
Raju Chaduvula‏ @raju_chaduvula 11m11 minutes ago
Froloff said a toxicology test was negative and an alcohol test came back positive for ethanol levels but due to decomposition. #HoehnTrial

Angeline McCall on Twitter
Angeline McCall‏ @amccallWDAY 10m10 minutes ago
A small amount of ethanol was found in Savanna's toxicology test. Froloff says that when bodies decompose, they begin to release this chemical and sometimes it shows up in the tests. There were no drugs/alcohol found. #HoehnTrial #SavannaGreywind

Raju Chaduvula on Twitter
Raju Chaduvula‏ @raju_chaduvula 8m8 minutes ago
Froloff said he did not find any head injuries during his examination-- no evidence of lacerations or sign that Savanna was hit in the head, there were no skull fractures. #HoehnTrial

Angeline McCall on Twitter
Angeline McCall‏ @amccallWDAY 8m8 minutes ago
Dr. Froloff says Savanna did not sustain any head injuries. There were no lacerations, no evidence that she was hit with any sort of object. #HoehnTrial #SavannaGreywind

Angeline McCall on Twitter
Angeline McCall‏ @amccallWDAY 14m14 minutes ago
This is important, considering Brooke Crews has said previously that Savanna was knocked unconscious during a scuffle before the c-section. Crews says Savanna hit her head on a bathroom sink. #HoehnTrial #SavannaGreywind

Angeline McCall on Twitter
Angeline McCall‏ @amccallWDAY 11m11 minutes ago
Medical examiner says that there were *NO* head injuries in this case. #HoehnTrial #SavannaGreywind

Raju Chaduvula on Twitter
Raju Chaduvula‏ @raju_chaduvula 10m10 minutes ago
The prosecution is finished questioning Dr. Froloff. Defense attorney Dan Borgen will now cross-examine. #HoehnTrial

Angeline McCall on Twitter
Angeline McCall‏ @amccallWDAY 11m11 minutes ago
The State is now done questioning Dr. Froloff, the Defense is now cross-examining him. #HoehnTrial #SavannaGreywind

Angeline McCall on Twitter
Angeline McCall‏ @amccallWDAY 8m8 minutes ago
The Defense reiterates in questioning that Dr. Froloff cannot tell which possible cause of death preceded the other (strangulation vs. bleeding). #HoehnTrial #SavannaGreywind

https://twitter.com/raju_chaduvula/status/1044266838685704192
Raju Chaduvula‏ @raju_chaduvula 5m5 minutes ago
Froloff has stepped down. The defense called Dr. Brad Randall, a forensic pathologist, to the stand. #HoehnTrial

https://twitter.com/amccallWDAY/status/1044266862413049857
Angeline McCall‏ @amccallWDAY 5m5 minutes ago
The Defense is now calling a witness, Dr. Brad Randall. He is a forensic pathologist with a consultant business. He has performed around 2,000 autopsies. #HoehnTrial #SavannaGreywind

https://twitter.com/amccallWDAY/status/1044267104957079552
Angeline McCall‏ @amccallWDAY 5m5 minutes ago
Randall will be basing his information off of Dr. Froloff's medical examination, pictures and other information. Randall reviewed the information as part of this case. #SavannaGreywind #HoehnTrial

https://twitter.com/raju_chaduvula/status/1044267169553534976
Raju Chaduvula‏ @raju_chaduvula 4m4 minutes ago
Dr. Randall didn't perform the autopsy on Savanna. He's providing his medical opinion based on a review of the autopsy report provided by Dr. Froloff. Randall said he agrees to a large part with Dr. Froloff's report. #HoehnTrial

https://twitter.com/amccallWDAY/status/1044267429696851969
Angeline McCall‏ @amccallWDAY 3m3 minutes ago
Randall says he mostly agrees with Dr. Froloff's findings and medical examination. #SavannaGreywind #HoehnTrial

https://twitter.com/raju_chaduvula/status/1044268048725630979
Raju Chaduvula‏ @raju_chaduvula 2m2 minutes ago
Dr. Randall said "it is more likely than not" that someone would die in less than 30 minutes from blood loss. #HoehnTrial

https://twitter.com/amccallWDAY/status/1044268148885782528
Angeline McCall‏ @amccallWDAY 2m2 minutes ago
Dr. Randall says most people die from blood loss in less than 30 minutes, however we can't be 'exactly precise.' #HoehnTrial #SavannaGreywind

https://twitter.com/amccallWDAY/status/1044268670980161537
Angeline McCall‏ @amccallWDAY 2m2 minutes ago
Dr. Randall is now being cross-examined by Ryan Younggren with the State. #HoehnTrial #SavannaGreywind

 

[Emi]

Angeline McCall on Twitter
Angeline McCall‏ @amccallWDAY 6m6 minutes ago
The State brought up a case within the past few years of a fetal abduction where the mother survived and the baby died. With that, Dr. Randall is done testifying and we'll continue after lunch at 1.30pm. #SavannaGreywind #HoehnTrial