DC - Savvas Savopoulos, family & Veralicia Figueroa murdered; Daron Wint Arrested #22

[OTPTarheel2018]

Well, you'll have to just tell us because I'm not seeing anything other than what I already found.

By the way means—according to the urban dictionary

oh, and On that note," or "While we're on the subject" or "since you mentioned it" or "Concerningthat,"

 

[Gardenista]

BTDUZ? I have no idea. I searched for it on Twitter and there are people who use the acronym, but I can't figure out what anyone means by it!

jmo

I FB searched it too and can't figure it out.

 

[indigomood]

BTDUZ? I have no idea. I searched for it on Twitter and there are people who use the acronym, but I can't figure out what anyone means by it!

jmo

Btduz - Character - WoW
When I did a google search for BTDUZ it took me to a World of Warcraft page that displays "Btduz Sword of Wrynn" and then when I google image search "Btduz Sword of Wrynn" it displays swords

I know nothing about World of Warcraft

 

[fred&edna]

I thought it might be another typo - like he did with "Faron" text.

But, instead of acronyms... I went in a different direction and found:

Detailed car specs: (BTDUZ) 1997 Volvo C70 Coupe

which doesn't show much (but, "taekwondo" possibly interesting - located in bar at top).

Then I found a cached version of same site:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...997-volvo-c70-coupe+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Volvo parts??

Maybe useless rabbit hole??

 

[Millhouse]

By the way means—according to the urban dictionary

oh, and On that note," or "While we're on the subject" or "since you mentioned it" or "Concerningthat,"

I feel so old. I really cannot find that definition, or any definition for that matter, for BTDUZ on Urbandictionary. All I get is a message saying sorry, no results were found: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=btduz

I just assumed it was a misspelled Btdub or something like that.

 

[Inthedetails]

I feel so old. I really cannot find that definition, or any definition for that matter, for BTDUZ on Urbandictionary. All I get is a message saying sorry, no results were found: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=btduz

I just assumed it was a misspelled Btdub or something like that.

Yes, that's what I think too.

And I also feel old, thinking, "We didn't need acronyms in my day. We spoke to each other!" LOL

jmo

 

[SpanishInquisition]

The jury was then shown surveillance footage of Wint and his brother, Darrell, at a Walmart store on Annapolis Road at 10:23 p.m. and 11:26 p.m. – the day the four victims were murdered. The brothers bought gloves, two backpacks and other items.

Wint’s stepmother said on May 15, Wint was home all day. But the following day, the minivan was gone and her stepson had no explanation for where it was. He did not want to call the police. On May 17, Wint left for New York.
Mansion Murders Trial: Daron Wint's stepmother takes stand; prosecutors focus on Wint's Facebook use

The van as we know ended up right by AIW and right before that they bought gloves and backpacks. The van wasn't just parked by AIW for fun and the gloves and backpacks weren't just purchased for no reason. Also I think the timing is important as 5/15/2015 was a Friday - a workday - with the van either disappearing at night that Friday or into the weekend.

 

[OTPTarheel2018]

I’m wondering if DW has a hearing problem. JMO

In the text on the tow truck drivers phone he texted “Is Faron” rather than “It’s Daron(F next to D on QWERTY keyboard). Is rather than it’s.

BTDUZ is mostly likely BTDubs which means “By the way” according to the urban dictionary. Again JMO that he may have a hearing problem...

So what does “ By the way” mean in today’s slang?

It means “oh, and On that note," or "While we're on the subject" or "since you mentioned it" or "Concerningthat,"...

JMO- “ since you mentioned it... or while we’re on the subject...”
We know what the subject was...
JMO

MOo

 

[Inthedetails]

The jury was then shown surveillance footage of Wint and his brother, Darrell, at a Walmart store on Annapolis Road at 10:23 p.m. and 11:26 p.m. – the day the four victims were murdered. The brothers bought gloves, two backpacks and other items.

Wint’s stepmother said on May 15, Wint was home all day. But the following day, the minivan was gone and her stepson had no explanation for where it was. He did not want to call the police. On May 17, Wint left for New York.
Mansion Murders Trial: Daron Wint's stepmother takes stand; prosecutors focus on Wint's Facebook use

The van as we know ended up right by AIW and right before that they bought gloves and backpacks. The van wasn't just parked by AIW for fun and the gloves and backpacks weren't just purchased for no reason. Also I think the timing is important as 5/15/2015 was a Friday - a workday - with the van either disappearing at night that Friday or into the weekend.

Can someone go through the details of the van at AIW? I need a refresher.

(This case is complicated to begin with, and following the trial when reporters can't report from the courtroom makes it hard for me to place all the details in the right order on the timeline.)

jmo

 

[taylorss]

In the days after the murder, DW’s minivan was torched right near AIW HQ

 

[C.Hound]

"...Later Tuesday, an intelligence-research specialist with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, told jurors he reviewed thousands of pages of records from Daron Wint’s Facebook page, including messages, photos, and calls logs. (Wint frequently used Facebook Messenger and a Wi-Fi connection to place phone calls, his stepmother testified).

"Although Wint was a frequent Facebook user, the specialist, Joshua Kaufmann, said Wint’s account went dark — no outgoing messages or calls sent — between 6 a.m. May 13 and 6 p.m. May 14.

"During that time, Facebook records indicate, friends tried to get in contact with Wint. His girlfriend sent a message on May 14 reading: “Hey babe you said not to worry about you if I didn’t hear from you. But I love you I just wanna hear ur OK.”

After killings, traffic cameras tracked family’s stolen Porsche through DC | WTOP

 

[Inthedetails]

In the days after the murder, DW’s minivan was torched right near AIW HQ

What day?

tia.

 

[taylorss]

What day?

tia.

I couldn’t find an exact day in the earlier reporting - just ‘in the days after’ ambiguous language. I wonder if it’s come up at trial yet

ETA: “... investigators found a minivan with a connection to Wint on fire in the days after the murders... The blue 2002 Ford Windstar van was also found in Prince George's County, just a three-minute drive from the business where Daron Wint once worked, American Iron Works, where Savvas Savopoulos was the CEO. Prosecutors wrote in court records that police had arrested Wint while driving that same minivan less than two months before the murders.”
Car Linked to Mansion Murders Suspect Was Also Found Torched

 

[1&2&3]

Do we know why the minivan was torched?

 

[OTPTarheel2018]

Do we know why the minivan was torched?

This from NBC 4. We don’t know now, but we probably will soon...JMO

“The blue 2002 Ford Windstar van was also found in Prince George's County, just a three-minute drive from the business where Daron Wint once worked, American Iron Works, where Savvas Savopoulos was the CEO. Prosecutors wrote in court records that police had arrested Wint while driving that same minivan less than two months before the murders.

"When we see the second vehicle was burned just like the first vehicle, that stuff starts to add up," said Van Zandt.

"That's a very helpful fact for the prosecution," added Glenn Kirschner, who recently retired as chief homicide prosecutor for the U.S. attorney's office. He didn't oversee the mansion murders case but reviewed the details for News4.

- Prosecutors Push for Trial Date in DC Mansion Murders Case

The I-Team found at least a dozen references to the blue minivan in the case file, including mention of a sealed search warrant and list of evidence investigators obtained from the van. Wint's defense attorneys unsuccessfully fought to keep prosecutors from using that evidence at trial. Prosecutors also noted at least seven surveillance videos from businesses near the intersection where the van burned.

"I have always been amazed at what ATF is able to determine from a scene that seems to be burned beyond recognition," said Kirschner. “So that will be important evidence in the trial."

Car Linked to Mansion Murders Suspect Was Also Found Torched

 

[SpanishInquisition]

The blue 2002 Ford Windstar van was also found in Prince George's County, just a three-minute drive from the business where Daron Wint once worked, American Iron Works, where Savvas Savopoulos was the CEO. Prosecutors wrote in court records that police had arrested Wint while driving that same minivan less than two months before the murders.
Car Linked to Mansion Murders Suspect Was Also Found Torched

As the article itself says investigators don't like a coincidence and I'm saying it's not a coincidence that the Wints got gloves and backpacks then the minivan ended up right by AIW.

 

[Inthedetails]

The blue 2002 Ford Windstar van was also found in Prince George's County, just a three-minute drive from the business where Daron Wint once worked, American Iron Works, where Savvas Savopoulos was the CEO. Prosecutors wrote in court records that police had arrested Wint while driving that same minivan less than two months before the murders.
Car Linked to Mansion Murders Suspect Was Also Found Torched

As the article itself says investigators don't like a coincidence and I'm saying it's not a coincidence that the Wints got gloves and backpacks then the minivan ended up right by AIW.

What's your theory on the purpose of those gloves and backpacks?

jmo

 

[OTPTarheel2018]

The blue 2002 Ford Windstar van was also found in Prince George's County, just a three-minute drive from the business where Daron Wint once worked, American Iron Works, where Savvas Savopoulos was the CEO. Prosecutors wrote in court records that police had arrested Wint while driving that same minivan less than two months before the murders.
Car Linked to Mansion Murders Suspect Was Also Found Torched

As the article itself says investigators don't like a coincidence and I'm saying it's not a coincidence that the Wints got gloves and backpacks then the minivan ended up right by AIW.

That is a great article and I watched the 27 min show-great info. Pretty impressive panel.

Can’t wait hear what the ATF found after the sealed search warrant was unsealed..sounds as though DW’s minivan was a total car-be-que!!
Shoulda driven that minivan off the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel!

My mama told me when I was pretty young there are no coincidences in life. I still believe she was right.

JMO

 

[katydid23]

"...Later Tuesday, an intelligence-research specialist with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, told jurors he reviewed thousands of pages of records from Daron Wint’s Facebook page, including messages, photos, and calls logs. (Wint frequently used Facebook Messenger and a Wi-Fi connection to place phone calls, his stepmother testified).

"Although Wint was a frequent Facebook user, the specialist, Joshua Kaufmann, said Wint’s account went dark — no outgoing messages or calls sent — between 6 a.m. May 13 and 6 p.m. May 14.

"During that time, Facebook records indicate, friends tried to get in contact with Wint. His girlfriend sent a message on May 14 reading: “Hey babe you said not to worry about you if I didn’t hear from you. But I love you I just wanna hear ur OK.”

After killings, traffic cameras tracked family’s stolen Porsche through DC | WTOP

Interesting that he told his girlfriend not to worry if she didn't hear from him. I wonder when he told her that?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Btduz - CharacterWorld of Warcraft page that displays "Btduz Sword of Wrynn"

I find this possibility absolutely chilling and very likely is the meaning.

I don't think he made a typo mistake. He purposefully wrote to document the last 2 days of his crimes.

Was he employed at the time? Did he play these kind of videos? I suspect he did.

So he puts up these letters right after he had used a SWORD with a 3 foot blade to kill his victims??

Hmmm. I have never believed in coincidences in murder trials and I certainly do not in this one. In every phase of the crimes he is the one who is consistently always there.

Imo