AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #24

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Also, speaking of Jennie-O. Do they employ many 18-20 year olds? Non locals or transient individuals that are just there to work and have no real connections to the community? They may have spotted Jayme once or twice visiting her parents at work ?
If they are in this age range they may not have local family to live with but instead live with friends who would never rat them out . The friends could have even been involved for the "thrill"of it .JMO.
 
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Also, speaking of Jennie-O. Do they employ many 18-20 year olds? Non locals or transient individuals that are just there to work and have no real connections to the community? They may have spotted Jayme once or twice visiting her parents at work ?
If they are in this age range they may not have local family to live with but instead live with friends who would never rat them out . JMO.
I checked the map to see if there was train sidings and there wasn't any but the high line runs straight through barron that's a well known and ridden line for train hoppers. 60% don't work and only beg for money. The time this case took place that line was busy because the travelers would be heading south.
 
From this same article BBM:

<Naiberg keeps artwork Jayme made for him on a table in the living room so he can readily see them. She sketched a cardinal for him. While recovering in the hospital from pneumonia, she put together and decorated a birdhouse.>

This appears to confirm the mention that Jayme had been in the hospital recently for pneumonia? I am just looking at circumstances or events out of the norm for the family. Could someone have run across her at this time?

I know it's a long shot, but I once had an experience with a male tech that caused me to report his inappropriate behavior (he came into my room while I was alone with a portable ultrasound and said he wanted to "check something for me").

I wasn't told by my attending to expect it, nor was it being performed down in Radiology. He was creepy and very secretive/nervous acting. I pressed my call button immediately. It can happen unfortunately.

I guess I'm still not entirely sure which article this is from, but thank you so much for a source about "Jayme's hospitalization". I keep seeing references, but thought it was social media rumour.
 
I checked the map to see if there was train sidings and there wasn't any but the high line runs straight through barron that's a well known and ridden line for train hoppers. 60% don't work and only beg for money. The time this case took place that line was busy because the travelers would be heading south.

Why would train hopper use a line that only goes to Poskin and no further? That line through Barron is nothing but a spur connecting Poskin to Cameron. You can see it on the CN website.

CN - Network Map

I can't imagine there are that many train hoppers in the tiny towns of Poskin & Barron that are filling up boxcars, heading to Cameron, and then jumping again onto a Southbound freighter. And any "travelers" heading South on the main line through Ladysmith (nearly 36 miles to the East) wouldn't head West into Barron on a whim...IMO they'd stay on the tracks they are already on.

JMO - I can't see how the line through Barron was "busy" with boxcar jumpers for a route that probably sees very little traffic.
 
Wondering what one piece of info do people think would make a difference if LE were to release it, as far as the public helping find perp and/or motive?

I can’t come up with anything that I am aching to know for reasons other than my own curiosity.
 
From this same article BBM:

<Naiberg keeps artwork Jayme made for him on a table in the living room so he can readily see them. She sketched a cardinal for him. While recovering in the hospital from pneumonia, she put together and decorated a birdhouse.>

This appears to confirm the mention that Jayme had been in the hospital recently for pneumonia? I am just looking at circumstances or events out of the norm for the family. Could someone have run across her at this time?

I know it's a long shot, but I once had an experience with a male tech that caused me to report his inappropriate behavior (he came into my room while I was alone with a portable ultrasound and said he wanted to "check something for me").

I wasn't told by my attending to expect it, nor was it being performed down in Radiology. He was creepy and very secretive/nervous acting. I pressed my call button immediately. It can happen unfortunately.
The statement made by Nailberg could be interpreted as he was in the hospital recovering and she made the birdhouse for him because of that.
 
Here are my today thoughts... goodness

1) did she attend Summer camp?

2) bars in Barron held events two weeks prior, one was an ATV ride bar hopping (per the bars facebook event page of past events) Any chance the ATV ride went behind Closs' house and someone was pathing things out?

3) the small opening under the deck, fencing. Why do I seek answers on this?

4) are their underground tunnels or Urban Underground Explorer tunnels in the area? Per the underground tunnel system maps I found, only near Milwaukee. About 5 of them. There is however, a mountain bike trail, per offroad trail biking sites.

They need to throw me a bone on more details or my mind will think it was an alien abduction next
 
Why would train hopper use a line that only goes to Poskin and no further? That line through Barron is nothing but a spur connecting Poskin to Cameron. You can see it on the CN website.

CN - Network Map

I can't imagine there are that many train hoppers in the tiny towns of Poskin & Barron that are filling up boxcars, heading to Cameron, and then jumping again onto a Southbound freighter. And any "travelers" heading South on the main line through Ladysmith (nearly 36 miles to the East) wouldn't head West into Barron on a whim...IMO they'd stay on the tracks they are already on.

JMO - I can't see how the line through Barron was "busy" with boxcar jumpers for a route that probably sees very little traffic.
The boxcar is rare. Just below Barron is the line I'm talking about. It's a joint line with BNSF and UP and travelers go to small towns to panhandle because bigger places are burnt up.
 
Wondering what one piece of info do people think would make a difference if LE were to release it, as far as the public helping find perp and/or motive?

I can’t come up with anything that I am aching to know for reasons other than my own curiosity.

That's hard to know. Look at the Liberty German/Abigail Williams case. They've released just about everything you would think could lead to an arrest and we're coming up on 2 years with nothing.
 
I hadn't heard about the driver licenses that were found. Does anyone have any additional information?

I believe that the drivers licenses you mean are the ones belonging to the searchers. Each searcher was required to bring a DL and I am sure that they were scanned or copied for records. These days they keep a record of every searcher on site for many reasons.
 
I haven't posted anything yet but have read through most of the old threads and I keep coming back to a theory. Could Jayme have gotten involved with someone -- like an adult in a power position -- a teacher, a coach or a dance instructor? Jayme seems young, sweet, innocent and likely would have been a perfect victim. If you search online, there are/have been some cases of teachers being arrested near or in Barron for inappropriate contact with students. Jayme recently changed schools. It said it was because of a situation with a caregiver moving but maybe there was more? Maybe James and Denise found out about this relationship and told her she couldn't see him anymore. Maybe Denise and James even threatened to expose him. This person could be a member of the community with a family and a lot to loose. And maybe, Jayme got pregnant from this person? She's very young but it's possible. It seems from prior posts that Jayme may have missed school recently and Denise was trying to reschedule some appointments in the upcoming weeks. If Jayme was pregnant, there could have been arguments about what to do with the baby. This man could have communicated with Jayme via a burner phone. This man could have come to the Closs house that night with the intent to talk or to take Jayme. James would have known him when he saw him at the door but would have likely told him to go away. The door could have been kicked in then. This theory is a bit far fetched but makes sense. It also fits with the "missing and endangered" classification and the family seeming to appeal to Jayme during their statements to the press. This man would not have wanted to hurt Jayme's dog either.
If you watch the WQOW interview from last night, the sheriff gets asked about a male liking Jayme. The sheriff doesn't say yes or no. He hesitates and says they are still looking into things.
 
If you watch the WQOW interview from last night, the sheriff gets asked about a male liking Jayme. The sheriff doesn't say yes or no. He hesitates and says they are still looking into things.

A couple of years ago, at a middle school in our town, a track coach "assistant" came on board. My nieces labeled him as a "creepy guy" from the beginning. He was a friend of the head coach who was also the high school coach. The head coach was a seemingly good guy and to everyone's knowledge had also taught in the system as a gym teacher years back, so he had been vetted by our State Ed. department (fingerprints, background checks, etc.) Since there are a couple of middle schools and a high school, sports personnel had to be shared for budgetary reasons. And the head coach was not around a whole lot to supervise the assistant coach.

Anyway, this assistant coach was not vetted by the State. He came in as an "independent consultant", some kind of "community liaison" designation, so he didn't have to go through the background checks. He was gone within a few months for being very inappropriate with the young women, both at the middle school AND high school level. Further investigation (and legal action) later showed he had traveled around to other states doing this kind of thing. He was definitely a predator.

I do hope LE has looked into possibilities like this at Jamie's school(s). I'm not blaming her current coach at all, but I think all "consulting" sports employees at her schools should be examined.
 
A couple of years ago, at a middle school in our town, a track coach "assistant" came on board. My nieces labeled him as a "creepy guy" from the beginning. He was a friend of the head coach who was also the high school coach. The head coach was a seemingly good guy and to everyone's knowledge had also taught in the system as a gym teacher years back, so he had been vetted by our State Ed. department (fingerprints, background checks, etc.) Since there are a couple of middle schools and a high school, sports personnel had to be shared for budgetary reasons. And the head coach was not around a whole lot to supervise the assistant coach.

Anyway, this assistant coach was not vetted by the State. He came in as an "independent consultant", some kind of "community liaison" designation, so he didn't have to go through the background checks. He was gone within a few months for being very inappropriate with the young women, both at the middle school AND high school level. Further investigation (and legal action) later showed he had traveled around to other states doing this kind of thing. He was definitely a predator.

I do hope LE has looked into possibilities like this at Jamie's school(s). I'm not blaming her current coach at all, but I think all "consulting" sports employees at her schools should be examined.

Even as just a room mother at my son’s elementary school you had to go through a basic background check. Not finger printed, but they required your name, address, and DL#. Anyone volunteering with contact with kids. Even if you’d never have unsupervised contact. And they do it each year. You don’t just do it in kindergarten and then your good for the next 12 years. All schools should do this and I’d personally be happy if they fingerprinted volunteers as well. The schools were serious about it too. I’ve seen volunteers turned away for not having their current form on file. Hopefully if something like this isn’t in place at Jayme’s school it will be started cause it seems to me, if nothing else, it’s a deterrent to pedofiles trying to work with kids at school. I’m actually a little shocked that anyone actually payed by a school system wouldn’t have been background checked in this day and age. And I totally agree with you that all Jayme’s coaches and school personnel should be vetted.
 
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Here are my today thoughts... goodness

1) did she attend Summer camp?

2) bars in Barron held events two weeks prior, one was an ATV ride bar hopping (per the bars facebook event page of past events) Any chance the ATV ride went behind Closs' house and someone was pathing things out?

3) the small opening under the deck, fencing. Why do I seek answers on this?

4) are their underground tunnels or Urban Underground Explorer tunnels in the area? Per the underground tunnel system maps I found, only near Milwaukee. About 5 of them. There is however, a mountain bike trail, per offroad trail biking sites.

They need to throw me a bone on more details or my mind will think it was an alien abduction next
Yes, we haven't heard anything about the families interactions or activities in any of the days leading up to Sunday and the family party. Almost as if no one saw them prior to Sunday. The family just talks about Sunday also. Many families have routines or similar schedules on weekdays and weekends. What did the Closs family normally do on weekends/Sundays? What was their schedule the week before. Did anyone who saw them notice anything different or unusual?
Even in the NY Times article everyone interviewed didn't know the family and just had theories. Doesn't anyone else feel the activities of the Closs family in the days/weeks prior to the crime could hold some clues? I can understand the local people being fearful to talk , but to me it's just eerily quiet. JMO.
 
Yes, I thought of that also wondering how easy it would be for Jayme to "make" a birdhouse in hospital...…….IDK
Many hospitals have a child life specialist who works with kids that are hospitalized doing things like crafts. “Making” a bird house while in hospital probably consisted of just painting it or doing a craft type birdhouse project not one that required tools, etc. my son is hospitalized every two months and often they have a craft project for the kids that are feeling up to it.
 
Many hospitals have a child life specialist who works with kids that are hospitalized doing things like crafts. “Making” a bird house while in hospital probably consisted of just painting it or doing a craft type birdhouse project not one that required tools, etc. my son is hospitalized every two months and often they have a craft project for the kids that are feeling up to it.
Thanks Mominmi...I feel like I'm trying to fit square pegs in round holes LOL
 
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