GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #66

[molly1255]

I bet that there is some Irish in her genes. She looks like an Irish beauty to me.

She does. She reminds me of Scarlett O'Hara with her coloring. Shanann's mother is apparently 100% Italian and I'm pretty sure that Shanann's father is Polish. He has a Polish surname. ETA: The surname originated in the Kingdom of Galicia, which no longer exists, and it is where my Polish ancestors came from.

 

[tmar]

So this is a bit OT...I am a muralist/artist and I really want to do a painting of the 4 angels, and now that I think about it? I want to do a mural of them in CO. I paint murals all over the US! Maybe that can be my goal next summer. They need to be memorialized! I'll start doing some sketches and keep you updated. Won't be till next week, I have a mural deadline next Friday!

Great.
Perhaps contact Shan'ann's family somehow.
I guess, if you stated to Police why, they would escort you to their door.
What a wonderful idea.
Hope you'll share this with us, if your beautiful idea eventuates.

 

[tmar]

Ahhhhhh lolol I need to zip it (they died on so many hills)

I don't understand this conversation, about hills: are you stating the hurdles Shan'ann had to endure???

 

[ftdlaks]

After reading the texts from Nichol to LE, I think she really had no clue and also no part in any of this. She seems sincere and wanting to help (in contrast to the interviews).

She might have believed him when he said he was divorced and just never bothered to really look into his background. Just my (possibly unpopular) opinion.

 

[MassGuy]

After reading the texts from Nichol to LE, I think she really had no clue and also no part in any of this. She seems sincere and wanting to help (in contrast to the interviews).

She might have believed him when he said he was divorced and just never bothered to really look into his background. Just my (possibly unpopular) opinion.

I agree that she wasn’t involved in the killings, and had no prior knowledge of what was to occur.

I do believe however, that she was playing dumb in regards to her knowledge of Shanann, and the state of their marriage.

 

[Ilovemy3boys]

After reading the texts from Nichol to LE, I think she really had no clue and also no part in any of this. She seems sincere and wanting to help (in contrast to the interviews).

She might have believed him when he said he was divorced and just never bothered to really look into his background. Just my (possibly unpopular) opinion.

Oh no. She knew he was married.

 

[Johnny1181]

Thanks Johnny,
Another beauty.
I'll continue playing this all night.
Shan'ann gave love to all around her, and now she is gone.

Actually my current fave. Hugs to all if I could find that emoji. Sweet dreams

 

[book-thinker]

I mean, we know that LE did their due dilligence here, and don’t think she did anything wrong in regards to the actual crime.

I’m sure they looked into it, and they found nothing nefarious there.

It’s an incredibly important part of the timeline, as that was the morning of the killings.

They wouldn’t have missed it.[/QUOT

 

[ftdlaks]

Also, in the body cam video that shows Chris first arriving to the scene. Did anyone notice that all the ceiling fans were running? So in the minute between going inside the home and letting LE/NUA in, our dude from hell potentially got her cellphone from the Lexus, turned it off, dumped it under the couch cushions and last but not the least turned on all the ceiling fans (to disperse the odor of murder, I would guess).

That was a busy one minute of activity right there.

ETA:

See at : 29:40, 38:50

 

[Gardener1850]

Absolutely. And if you are criticizing someone for thwarting his intended coverup effort, then your criticism is way off base.

“Yeah, she stopped a killer from getting away with murder, but she’s nosy,” isn’t exactly a hill you should be dying on.

Ha! That is so true. I wish everyone was as "nosy"-- if that is what it's called these days to care about your friend who is pregnant and may have health issues. Tons of killers would be caught much faster if everyone had a friend like NA. I have never understood having any criticism for NA at all. My jaw dropped reading NK's interview summary (Abt Discovery Doc page 1063) where she said she asked CW multiple times if he thought NA and her son did something to Shanann or were hiding Shanann and trying to throw CW off. Even CW wasn't so stupid as to blame NA and pointed out how that wouldn't make any sense. But NK's voiced suspicions made me think NK might have been behind that lynch mob sent to trash NA on social media. To NK's credit she ended by saying she was glad NA showed up that day.
MOO.

 

[book-thinker]

I mean, we know that LE did their due dilligence here, and don’t think she did anything wrong in regards to the actual crime.

I’m sure they looked into it, and they found nothing nefarious there.

It’s an incredibly important part of the timeline, as that was the morning of the killings.

They wouldn’t have missed it.

Sorry having trouble

I mean, we know that LE did their due dilligence here, and don’t think she did anything wrong in regards to the actual crime.

I’m sure they looked into it, and they found nothing nefarious there.

It’s an incredibly important part of the timeline, as that was the morning of the killings.

They wouldn’t have missed it.

LE went over everything with a fine tooth comb. I just found this strange. Needed some input
from others. Maybe an error ping from a cell tower. LE and the DA and did a excellent job convicting
Imate Watts
This was meant for MassGuy
I'm having trouble with my computer

 

[Gecko100]

Well... her "energy" was "so insane" it did indeed "heat" him up and made him "melt"!

Then inexplicably while he was there melted by her insane energy she then "cooled" him "down like rain"

Ahhh... Spicy poetry in motion lol! jmo

Hello, the works sound so similar to the song 'Abracadabra' I heat up I cool down you got me spinning around and round. I read his and the song popped into my head.

 

[tmar]

Also, in the body cam video that shows Chris first arriving to the scene. Did anyone notice that all the ceiling fans were running? So in the minute between going inside the home and letting LE/NUA in, our dude from hell potentially got her cellphone from the Lexus, turned it off, dumped it under the couch cushions and last but not the least turned on all the ceiling fans (to disperse the odor of murder, I would guess).

That was a busy one minute of activity right there.

ETA:

See at : 29:40, 38:50

That is incredible, that the fans were turned on immediately.
So he does think to cover himself, if the smell is the reason.
There was also 'cleaning' smell present.

 

[Jax49]

That is incredible, that the fans were turned on immediately.
So he does think to cover himself, if the smell is the reason.
There was also 'cleaning' smell present.

Maybe he left them all running when he drove away with the bodies?

 

[MassGuy]

Sorry having trouble


LE went over everything with a fine tooth comb. I just found this strange. Needed some input
from others. Maybe an error ping from a cell tower. LE and the DA and did a excellent job convicting
Imate Watts
This was meant for MassGuy
I'm having trouble with my computer

I completely understand where the concern is coming from. It is an odd that she’s in the general area of the house during that crucial time period.

I just think it’s nothing, because LE has ruled her out in regards to having any involvement.

It must have been addressed.

 

[Jennifer17]

It’s all throughout the discovery documents, in texts from SW to friends, letters from friends/family to LE, etc.

For example one incident described by SW’s Mom was that JW offered to send out the engagement party invitations. None of SW’s friends came (just close family), and when SW asked friends why, they said they never received an invitation. None of her friends got one. In texts from SW to friends she says that Cindy and JW have had it out for her from the beginning and that they have ruined everything special such as the engagement party, wedding, birthdays and anniversaries. Then of course there is the notorious Nutgate which according to st least one account, JW was a part of.

And the incognito posts on several forums. Just a 'friend' who had known CW all his life and knew SW when she met him and had gossip about her before she met him and knew about the affair 'since the beginning'.

 

[k-mac]

@Mscott we don't know
that's why it was stated my opinion only.

some posters are making a suggestion that we examine the connection between the necklaces shown.
but that's obvious by my post you quoted.

I dont have to state sources for 'my opinion only" matter discussing up thread topic.

edited to add user name. because post was within post didn't tag.

 

[Gecko100]

G'day, Does anyone remember Watts saying 'I put Shannan back on the bed'. This could be a true statement amongst his porkies. I'm not sure if police explored it. I want to know how she got off the bed. If you know about statement analysis his story is full of temporal lacunae, or missing time. Peter Hyatt does this, and has already completed some analysis. Fascinating subject just Google him or statement analysis, there's a few who do it FBI guys. Mark Mcclish is another. https://www.google.com.au/search?rl...qpLfAhURdysKHRV_C3kQBQgpKAA&biw=1094&bih=542#
Okay I thought I remembered how to link but maybe not.

 

[Lilibet]

I don't understand this conversation, about hills: are you stating the hurdles Shan'ann had to endure???

Tracing the conversation back to the beginning, I think the “hill to die on” has to do with people arguing a point “to death” and never relenting...such as insisting that NUA was “nosy” and other “battles” about Shanann that were never surrendered. JMO

Urban Dictionary: Not a hill I want to die on

 

[Jennifer17]

G'day, Does anyone remember Watts saying 'I put Shannan back on the bed'. This could be a true statement amongst his porkies. I'm not sure if police explored it. I want to know how she got off the bed. If you know about statement analysis his story is full of temporal lacunae, or missing time. Peter Hyatt does this, and has already completed some analysis. Fascinating subject just Google him or statement analysis, there's a few who do it FBI guys. Mark Mcclish is another. https://www.google.com.au/search?rl...qpLfAhURdysKHRV_C3kQBQgpKAA&biw=1094&bih=542#
Okay I thought I remembered how to link but maybe not.

BBM. I can't imagine where you come from.