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I was thinking along the same lines. Like for instance mailing her phone to Idaho then using someone to hack her phone and send those texts.I wonder if he didn't necessarily try to hire someone to commit murder (I believe she died directly at PF's hands - JMO), but rather getting someone to conceal evidence (cell phone perhaps)? Just pondering...
FWIW, It is solicitation for murder. Not solicitation for aiding and abetting, or obstruction of justice. PF solicitated someone to kill Kelsey. There might be others out there that did help PF by aiding and covering up for him. But that is not Solicitation for murder.
The DA nor the chief never said “solicitation for murder”. They only said “solicitation”. And when the DA started explaining the statute, he didn’t mention murder then, either. Instead, I believe he started out talking about burglary if memory serves.FWIW, It is solicitation for murder. Not solicitation for aiding and abetting, or obstruction of justice. PF solicitated someone to kill Kelsey. There might be others out there that did help PF by aiding and covering up for him. But that is not Solicitation for murder.
I sure hope they find that phone.Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV
On Day 29, after 19 days of investigating, police believe Kelsey Berreth was murdered. May she Rest In Peace. #KelseyBerreth @KOAA
9:35 AM - 21 Dec 2018
Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV
I just asked if they have reason to believe the murder took place in her townhome. Chief De Young says yes. That’s why they have been returning to her home for more evidence. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth
9:15 AM - 21 Dec 2018
Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV
They’ve finally received enough information to implicate Frazee, and that’s what led to his arrest. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth
9:15 AM - 21 Dec 2018
Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV
The phone information was accurate. It did end up in Idaho, and they’re still working to find it. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth
9:16 AM - 21 Dec 2018
Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV
It would appear Frazee had help, per the solicitation charge. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth
9:17 AM - 21 Dec 2018
Replying to @SamKraemerTV @KOAA
Did his mom get arrested?
9:21 AM - 21 Dec 2018
Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV
Replying to @CRHPG @KOAA
No. Police just said only he was arrested
9:22 AM - 21 Dec 2018
I guess we now know why he was carrying the baby everywhere. Last time he will ever be able to. Had to get his time in.
I wonder if he sent her to the store on Thanksgiving, to get her on video? Jmo
It's amazing, isn't it? That is always how this happens. Tale as old as time. And yet each time, there are folks doing Olympic-worthy mental gymnastics trying to "understand" what the victim did wrong to make that nice boy "snap" and kill her.
I see a lot of sympathy for Kelsey’s family. And rightly so of course! But let’s remember his family will be suffering too. And to just assume his mom or any of his family helped him at this point is wrong. Let’s pray for them too!To Kelsey's Aunt and all of her family,
I'm so sorry for your loss and I am praying for you all.
May God comfort you and guide men to do what is just in His eyes.
I don't know if that happened, but I just have a feeling that the run to the grocery store with baby on Thanksgiving was part of the set up to kill her. I don't know how it fits in, but I think he sent her to the store that day. To get her out of the house so something could be set up there?? Jmo. edited for clarity.
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Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV 30s31 seconds ago
Woodland Park Police Chief Miles De Young at the podium first. He says they arrested Frazee on charges of first degree murder in the murder of Kelsey Berreth. He’s presumed innocent until proven guilty. Taken into custody after 7 a.m. #KelseyBerreth @KOAA
Natalie Tysdal on Twitter
Natalie TysdalVerified account @NatalieTysdal 2m2 minutes ago
BREAKING: Patrick Frazee being held in Teller Co. Jail. he was taken into custody at 7am this morning. #KelseyBerreth
Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV 2m2 minutes ago
Kelsey’s daughter is back in the Berreth family’s custody. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth
Natalie Tysdal on Twitter
Natalie TysdalVerified account @NatalieTysdal 2m2 minutes ago
Breaking: Kelsey's family not providing interviews. Daughter with family. #KelseyBerreth
Daniela Leon on Twitter
Daniela Leon @danielaleontv 2m2 minutes ago
BREAKING: @PoliceWoodland DOESNT THINK #KelseyBerreth IS ALIVE.
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9NEWS DenverVerified account @9NEWS 4m4 minutes ago
Per Woodland Park PD chief: Patrick Frazee was arrested at 7 a.m. in Florissant, Colorado. His and #KelseyBerreth's daughter is in protective custody.
Natalie Tysdal on Twitter
Natalie TysdalVerified account @NatalieTysdal 5m5 minutes ago
Breaking: Authorities have NOT found Kelsey Barreth's body but they do not believe she is alive. #KelseyBerreth
Tori Mason on Twitter
Tori MasonVerified account @ToriMasonTV 5m5 minutes ago
Chief Miles De Young: Woodland Park Police have not found #KelseyBerreth. They do not believe she is still alive.
Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV 5m5 minutes ago
Per the charge, they believe Kelsey Berreth is dead. They still don’t know where she is, but Chief says they have information that has narrowed their search. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth
Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV 7m7 minutes ago
Just as we reported this week, De Young says cell phone records played a big role in getting the arrest. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth
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9NEWS DenverVerified account @9NEWS 7m7 minutes ago
Woodland Park Police Chief Miles De Young says investigators don't believe #KelseyBerreth is still alive. Her body has not yet been found.
FOX21 News on Twitter
FOX21 NewsVerified account @FOX21News 7m7 minutes ago
#KelseyBerreth update: Fiance Patrick Frazee was arrested this morning on first-degree murder charges. Kelsey has not been found, but law enforcement do not believe she is still alive.
Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV 6m6 minutes ago
District Attorney Dan May says Frazee was charged with first degree murder and solicitation of first degree murder. Formal charges will be announced in the days ahead. Arraignment date will be passed on when it’s announced. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth
Natalie Tysdal on Twitter
Natalie TysdalVerified account @NatalieTysdal 6m6 minutes ago
Breaking: Patrick Frazee charged with First degree murder and solicitation for murder. #KelseyBerreth
Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV 6m6 minutes ago
Formal charges will be announced in about 10 days, May says. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth
9NEWS Denver on Twitter
9NEWS DenverVerified account @9NEWS 5m5 minutes ago
Per DA: Patrick Frazee has been booked on charges for first-degree murder, solicitation to commit first-degree murder. Formal charges not yet finalized. #KelseyBerreth
Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV 5m5 minutes ago
Case now transfers from Woodland Park Police to @4thJudicialDA. They lead from now on. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth
Steve Patterson on Twitter
Steve PattersonVerified account @PattersonNBC 5m5 minutes ago
#BREAKING: -Patrick Frazee charged with first degree murder. -Kelsey has not been found. -Police don’t believe she’s alive. -The couple’s one year old daughter is now in protective custody. #KelseyBerreth @NBCNews
Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV 5m5 minutes ago
“We will not try this case in the press. That’s not what we do here,” May says. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth
Daniela Leon on Twitter
Daniela Leon @danielaleontv 4m4 minutes ago
From now on Dan May’s office will handle the case and be the lead agency in #KelseyBerreth case.
Natalie Tysdal on Twitter
Natalie TysdalVerified account @NatalieTysdal 8m8 minutes ago
Breaking: affidavits sealed until investigation is complete. probably 30 days. #KelseyBerreth
Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV 8m8 minutes ago
May says he anticipates it will takes weeks, perhaps up to 30 days, to tie up investigative leads. Then, they may unseal records. Those records are sealed to protect the investigation. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth
Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV 7m7 minutes ago
May: “The efforts by the task force have been phenomenal.” He says the FBI had about 20-30 agents here working it. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth
Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV 6m6 minutes ago
May says they’re still at Berreth’s home processing evidence. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth
KKTV 11 News on Twitter
KKTV 11 NewsVerified account @KKTV11News 6m6 minutes ago
Woodland Park police chief: "Sadly, we do not believe Kelsey is still alive." #KelseyBerreth
KKTV 11 News on Twitter
KKTV 11 NewsVerified account @KKTV11News 6m6 minutes ago
The couple's child is back with Kelsey's family. #KelseyBerreth
Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV 6m6 minutes ago
.@SheriffTeller Jason Mikesell now speaking. He offers his deepest sympathy to the Berreth family. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth
Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV 5m5 minutes ago
“We have a lot of tired officers in this community,” Mikesell says. He’s crediting community support in keeping them going. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth
KKTV 11 News on Twitter
KKTV 11 NewsVerified account @KKTV11News 5m5 minutes ago
The case is now in the hands of the @4thJudicialDA. Official charges against Frazee will be released in the coming days. #KelseyBerreth
Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV 4m4 minutes ago
FBI Assistant Special Agent in Charge Mike Nordwall now speaking. They’ve provided a variety of investigative resources to the case. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth
Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV 3m3 minutes ago
That includes evidence response team, behavioral analysis, technical analysis and investigative help over the last three weeks. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth
Natalie Tysdal on Twitter
Natalie TysdalVerified account @NatalieTysdal 2m2 minutes ago
"Due to multiple interviews we were able to make an arrest". #KelseyBerreth
KKTV 11 News on Twitter
KKTV 11 NewsVerified account @KKTV11News 2m2 minutes ago
Multiple interviews led law enforcement last night to believe they were at a point where they could get a warrant for Frazee's arrest. #KelseyBerreth
KKTV 11 News on Twitter
KKTV 11 NewsVerified account @KKTV11News 2m2 minutes ago
Law enforcement will not comment on what was found in Frazee's house during the multi-day search. #KelseyBerreth
9NEWS Denver on Twitter
9NEWS DenverVerified account @9NEWS 1m1 minute ago
Police can't say what specific evidence was collected following the #KelseyBerreth disappearance, or what prompted the solicitation to commit first-degree murder charge against Patrick Frazee. Other arrests are also possible.
Natalie Tysdal on Twitter
Natalie TysdalVerified account @NatalieTysdal 1m1 minute ago
"there could be additional arrests due to solicitation charges". #KelseyBerreth
KKTV 11 News on Twitter
KKTV 11 NewsVerified account @KKTV11News 1m1 minute ago
Law enforcement "will not speculate" on where Kelsey's body is. #KelseyBerreth
Sam Kraemer on Twitter
Sam Kraemer @SamKraemerTV 49s49 seconds ago
I just asked if they have reason to believe the murder took place in her townhome. Chief De Young says yes. That’s why they have been returning to her home for more evidence. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth
KKTV 11 News on Twitter
KKTV 11 NewsVerified account @KKTV11News 40s40 seconds ago
LE says there is evidence that the crime may have occurred at her home, which 11 News saw FBI/CBI searching Wednesday. #KelseyBerreth
CMoore News® on Twitter
CMoore News®Verified account @CMoore_News 35s35 seconds ago
Investigators believe #KelseyBerreth’s murder happened at her home.
Patrick Frazee arrested, charged with first-degree murder
It’s not clear at this time who now has custody of their 1-year-old daughter, Kaylee.
We are going to find out they were not engaged. You will see. This wasn’t about a break up. MOOIf I had to guess, PF was loosing control and he couldn't handle that! Kelsey may have wanted to move on with her life and PF wasn't about to deal with custodial issues or child support. At first I thought maybe something spur of the moment happened and he snapped, but not anymore.
If so, what a dumb bunch they are!
And always there are friends who come forward and say what a nice guy he was. Always!It's amazing, isn't it? That is always how this happens. Tale as old as time. And yet each time, there are folks doing Olympic-worthy mental gymnastics trying to "understand" what the victim did wrong to make that nice boy "snap" and kill her.