CO CO - Jefferson Co, UnkFem, UP11704, UnkAge, skull in cauldron, Oct '13

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
Female, Uncertain
Date Found: October 17, 2013
Location Found: Lakewood, Colorado
Estimated Age Range: --

Case Numbers
NCMEC Number: --
ME/C Case Number: 2013-00825

Demographics
Sex: Female
Race / Ethnicity: Uncertain
Possible First Name: --
Possible Middle Name: --
Possible Last Name: --
Possible Nickname: --
Estimated Age Group: Cannot Determine
Estimated Age Range (Years): --
Estimated Year of Death: --
Estimated PMI: --
Height: Cannot Estimate
Weight: Cannot Estimate

Circumstances
Type: Unidentified Deceased
Date Found: October 17, 2013
NamUs Case Created: October 21, 2013
ME/C QA Reviewed: --

Street Address: 1250 Kline Street
Lakewood, Colorado 80226
County: Jefferson County

Circumstances of Recovery: Skull found in cauldron in a vacated residence (shed) that was on the market to be sold.


Details of Recovery
Inventory of Remains: Torso not recovered
One or more limbs not recovered
One or both hands not recovered
Condition of Remains: Not recognizable - Partial skeletal parts only

Physical Description
Hair Color: --
Head Hair Description: --
Body Hair Description: --
Facial Hair Description: --
Left Eye Color: --
Right Eye Color: --
Eye Description: --


Distinctive Physical Features
No Information Entered

Clothing and Accessories
No Information Entered



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1471UFCO
Unidentified Female

Date of Discovery: October 17, 2013
Location of Discovery: Lakewood, Jefferson County, Colorado
Estimated Date of Death: Unknown
State of Remains: Skull only
Cause of Death: Unknown

Physical Description
Estimated Age: Unknown
Race: Unknown
Sex: Female
Height: Unknown
Weight: Unknown
Hair Color: Unknown
Eye Color: Unknown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Unknown

Identifiers
Dentals: Not available.
Fingerprints: Not available.
DNA: Available.

Clothing & Personal Items
Clothing: None.
Jewelry: None.
Additional Personal Items: None.

Circumstances of Discovery
The skull was found in a cauldron in a shed of a vacated residence at 1250 Kline Street that was on the market to be sold.

The sex of the decedent was initially unknown.

Investigating Agency(s)
Agency Name: Jefferson County Coroner's Office
Agency Contact Person: Daniel Pruett
Agency Phone Number: 303-271-6480
Agency E-Mail: N/A
Agency Case Number: 2013-00825

NCIC Case Number: Unknown
NamUs Case Number: 11704

Information Source(s)
NamUs


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Once again, an odd one. Not much information to go on, but my first thought was that this skull might be old/historic, perhaps Native?

 

[MarziPanda]

Historic was my first thought too, but surely having had this skull since 2013 they would have done analysis that would tell them how old the skull is?

Finding a real skull in a cauldron sounds... interesting. Like it was being used as a prop, maybe. In which case, if not historical, perhaps stolen from a grave or elsewhere? That seems a little more likely than a murder victim, though you never know.

I wonder how they determined that the skull was female. DNA is available, so maybe that's how.

 

[Laughing]

Re: gender of a skull. I remember watching slides in Anthropology, showing gender differences in human skeletons. We're used to thinking about pelvic structure, but in adults there are differences due to muscle development mostly -- males generally do have stronger muscles & this does influence bone growth patterns.

Now of course IDK what investigators are using here!

JMHO YMMV

 

[aegis100]

For what it's worth, here is a shot of the address. The Zillow page on it stated it was sold "as-is". Neighborhood looks like it has seen better days.

 

[Melt71]

One ruleout listed - Kelly Rothwell, MP9738 from Florida. So at least there's been some action on the case.

 

[Melt71]

DBM the double posting gremlins are plaguing me this weekend.

 

[Laughing]

DBM the double posting gremlins are plaguing me this weekend.

clipart-library.com

IMHO it helps when we acknowledge them, as you did here....

jmho ymmv lrr

 

[BrownBear]

This article has some more details about the circumstances.
"Lakewood police do not consider the house a crime scene, because they don't have any evidence that a crime was committed there. Davis says investigators believe all the items were brought-in from somewhere else. Even if the bones do prove to be human, that doesn't necessarily mean a crime was committed. Police say human bones are sold on the internet, and it's perfectly legal."
If they were bought on the internet they could have come from anywhere. Going to be very hard to ID.