Coincidences

[DeeDee249]

Agatha, what I found interesting, was the fact that her friends, not her family, founded the site. Wonder where her paintings are now?

Hanging in the "John Wayne Gacy" Murderer's Gallery

 

[Agatha_C]

Hanging in the "John Wayne Gacy" Murderer's Gallery

Agatha>>>>> :floorlaugh:

That was the best of all the hahahaha's told on websleuth! I stand in awe.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

As you browse the art gallery of paintings by Patsy Ramsey and John Wayne Gacy, you will hear the music of Charles Manson....

 

[feddup]

I understand and I was not suggesting that NO disgruntled employee would ever resort to killing. (that's where "going postal" comes from, after all- no disrespect to postal workers intended). I said that THESE TWO disgruntled employees would not kill an innocent little girl because they didn't like JR. I mentioned JR and Access Graphics specifically.

You'd be surprised what laid off/fired employees do. My husband got laid off and they walked him out of bldg. I said: why in the world would they do that? He said: becase they know some mad employees will steal files, etc. But really, I was shocked my hubs is a professional and high ethics.
I guess they expect the worst though from people when theyre laid off and upset.
But if they want to get even, if theyre THAT mad a simple escort out will not prevent it. IMO some people just get mad and want to get even I suppose.
Im sure alot were jealous of JR and his money. I would think the Boulder police thoroughly checked out these men though?

 

[Whaleshark]

Who does this sound like?

"Is it wrong of me though to not really want to know the truth? I'm honestly scared for the numerous possibilities. She's safe, she's in God's loving arms; in a lot of ways, I'm content by the fact that she will never have to have her heart broken or see the constant negativity that our society breeds, nor will she ever be abused or taken advantage of."

 

[Agatha_C]

Who does this sound like?

"Is it wrong of me though to not really want to know the truth? I'm honestly scared for the numerous possibilities. She's safe, she's in God's loving arms; in a lot of ways, I'm content by the fact that she will never have to have her heart broken or see the constant negativity that our society breeds, nor will she ever be abused or taken advantage of."

Casey Anthony!

 

[Whaleshark]

It IS Casey Anthony, yes.... I'm saying, who does she sound like when she said those things?

"....and that we know in our hearts that JonBenet is safe and with God ..."

"....Not because we're angry, but because we have got to go on..."

"...Do you take some comfort in believing that JonBenet Ramsey is in a better place?"

RAMSEY, J: Yes. That's the one thing we want people dealing with us to know, to believe that, we know that in our heart.

RAMSEY, P: She'll never have to know the loss of a child. She will never have to know cancer or death of a child.

RAMSEY, J: We learned when we lost our first child that people would come forward to us, that sooner or later everyone carries a very heavy burden in this life. And JonBenet didn't carry any burdens.

 

[CathyR]

Same dance school JB attended had another student attacked in her home while asleep. Mother woke up and interrupted assault.

It may have nothing or everything to do with case but it is a strange coincidence.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

The definition of the word "burke" is:

to murder, as by suffocation, so as to leave no or few marks of violence.

It's a bit eerie when you consider that the head bash produced no bleeding, so no marks of violence...

 

[Szabo]

Same dance school JB attended had another student attacked in her home while asleep. Mother woke up and interrupted assault.

It may have nothing or everything to do with case but it is a strange coincidence.

This was also mentioned in the "Who Killed the Pageant Queen?" docu.

 

[jeeps]

Not a disgruntled ex-employee but the current Chief Financial Officer.... He would be privy to John's bonus of $118,000.000.

Son of a bi**h Tom Carson. SBTC

Tom Carson was the employee who had dinner with Access Graphics ex-employees. Don Paugh told John he witnessed the dinner Tom Carson had with ex-employees. EX-EMPLOYEES: Small Foreign Faction.

It was no secret that Nedra, Pam and Polly were fired by Tom Carson. The Atlanta office of Access Graphics was closing down and John being John the coward left it to Tom Carson to fire his in-laws. The Paughs hated Tom Carson.

So the employees of an American business are a "foreign faction"?

 

[k-mac]

IIRC, the ransom demand was for the exact amount of money JR had received as a recent bonus.

other end of exactly the same spectrum. ask not why someone wanted that much money so randomly but ironic much that co-incedencely $118000 was ramsey BONUS, EXTRA.....DISPOSABLE cash??

 

[thref23]

I don't know if this is the right thread to bump?

I just read up on Bill/Janet McRenoylds for the first time, and as a result I also ended up reading about the death of Sylvia Likens. It seems well known that Janet McReynolds had written a play about the death of Sylvia Lykens circa 1976.

While some parallels between the Sylvia Likens and JonBenet Ramsey murders have been discussed, including in this thread, here is something I have not seen discussed. Before Sylvia was murdered, Gertrude Baniszewski, Sylvia's primary tormentor and the ringleader behind her murder, and her daughter Paula Baniszewski forced Sylvia to write a letter to her parents. The letter was to be revealed only after her murder, and its intended purpose was to throw off the authorities.

Then Gertrude and Paula forced Sylvia to write a letter to her parents. Sylvia started to begin the note like the one she had previously been forced to write, "Dear Mom and Dad" but Mrs. Wright told her to stop and made her start over with the peculiar salutation "To Mr. and Mrs. Likens." After Sylvia's death, Mrs. Wright would turn over this letter to a cop. She would tell him that Sylvia had been absent from her house for a few days, then wandered into the backyard, clutching this epistle.

The Torturing Death of Sylvia Marie Likens, from The Crime Library - Crime Library on truTV.com

...does anybody else see a coincidence there?

Gertrude Baniszewski was eventually released from prison in 1985 and passed away in 1990. However, her daughter Paula was released from prison in 1972. She resurfaced publicly in 2012, and it was revealed that she had been working as a teacher's aide in Iowa, under a new/fake name, since 1998. I think it is assumed that she moved to Iowa before 1998, but nobody seems to know (or at least say) anything about her life from 1972-1998.

In other words, at the time of JBR's murder, she may have been living off the grid. Two or three others charged were also released in 1972. Stephanie Baniszewski (initials SB) got off at trial. There is debate as to whether she was or was not a participant in Sylvia's torture. It is probably a big stretch, but in theory, any one of these people could have become aware of Janet McReynolds' play when it was on Broadway in 1977, and could have formed an attachment to Janet McReynolds (which could have led them to Boulder)?

 

[cherisa]

I'm not either. But again, aside from having to prove that you KNEW it was false and said/wrote it anyway, there are different categories.

The top is political speech. This is completely protected, which is how the Founders wanted it. A good example would be the people who accused former President GW Bush of masterminding the 9/11 attacks. That's an outright accusation of murder (and damned foolish to boot). But they are free and clear to do it. As long as they don't call for assassination, they can accuse politicians of ANYTHING.

Moving down the ladder, we have public figures. These would be celebrities, like movie stars or top athletes, etc. This is a little more tricky. They CAN and have sued for slander and libel, but it's very hard for them to win. The legal assumption is that if a person willingly enters the public eye, they have to expect a certain amount of hostility. There will always be someone who doesn't like you.

Private people is where the law comes in. If my neighbor is spreading rumors that I'm a child molester, and he has no good reason to believe it, that's slander. At that point, I'm within my rights to sue him. (In my case, though, it wouldn't come to that. I'd save a lot of court time and tax money by just showing up at his door with a shotgun! But that's just me!)

So, where do the Ramseys fit into this? Well, they and their attack-dog lawyer Lin Wood (I shouldn't have said that; comparing him to a dog is an insult to loyal dogs everywhere!) have claimed for years that they are not public figures. This is something of a tenous claim, considering how often they throw themselves in front of the cameras, but when John decided to run for Congress a few years ago, it's likely he entered the top tier, and has no grounds for lawsuits anymore. PLUS, a dead person cannot be defamed, so there's no grounds to sue on Patsy's behalf, either. Some people may consider it morally repugnant to speak ill of the dead, but there's no legal onus on it.

Bbm..straight from the horses mouth..

 

[ripley666]

The random note requested specifically $118,000 which is the exact same amount JR had received as a christmas bonus. Another coincidence is that the murder took place on christmas day. My theory is that perhaps a somebody surrounding JR or involved in his line of work (business) was angry about not being paid as much.

 

[Veronica Lodge]

Memory Lane | Facebook

Not sure if it's been mentioned already in this thread but John Ramsey's latest wife Jan Rousseaux has some quite an album of designs which bear a somewhat similar appearance to some of JonBenet's outfits. It's all readily available on her public facebook page.

 

[kaykay543]

Memory Lane | Facebook

Not sure if it's been mentioned already in this thread but John Ramsey's latest wife Jan Rousseaux has some quite an album of designs which bear a somewhat similar appearance to some of JonBenet's outfits. It's all readily available on her public facebook page.

Wow did you see her 2017 post asking for people to donate to Jameson’s fundraiser? Crazy!! I didn’t know “Jameson” was still around.

 

[UKGuy]

Wow did you see her 2017 post asking for people to donate to Jameson’s fundraiser? Crazy!! I didn’t know “Jameson” was still around.

kaykay543,
Yeah they all need payments to stay on message. Where are the Stines these days? Even the Smit family are on the JonBenet money trail, they are looking for donations to do dna matching tests, which we all know will come back Inconclusive, Negative, etc as the case is RDI.

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[David Rogers]

kaykay543,
Yeah they all need payments to stay on message. Where are the Stines these days? Even the Smit family are on the JonBenet money trail, they are looking for donations to do dna matching tests, which we all know will come back Inconclusive, Negative, etc as the case is RDI.

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“JonBenet money trail”. I applaud you for the observation. It’s too bad they are not on it for the truth.

 

[Tadpole12]

Memory Lane | Facebook

Not sure if it's been mentioned already in this thread but John Ramsey's latest wife Jan Rousseaux has some quite an album of designs which bear a somewhat similar appearance to some of JonBenet's outfits. It's all readily available on her public facebook page.

Lots of sparkle and fringe and big hair.

(2017)Noticed that Jan R cites Sue Bennet's /AKA Jameson's credentials?
and the g/f/m page "Justice for JonBenét Reward Fund". ($2,995 of $50,000 goal)

Odd, IMO,
all those MOST WANTED SO COOL IT"S CRIMINAL BY ROUSSEAUX posters promoting fashion made by inmates.