Dominican Republic - American tourists found dead in resorts, same cause of death, 2018/2019

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Herat said:
Rat lungworm disease is not associated with an insect. It is a parasitic worm. It is spread from snails and slugs to rats. We only get it if we ingest raw snails or slugs that carry the parasite. It's not a new disease.

It's true no place is safe. We live in an environment full of living things, many of which are not good for our health. Many are. Bacteria in our intestines are important in processing the vitamin K complex which is a essential in regulating clotting. And yet a different bacterial infestation in the stomach is associated with ulcers and lymphomas.

We are just getting better at looking for pathogens, describing them, and communicating world-wide about their potential for harm and possible cures.

We should be very thankful for the work that all these surveillance and healthcare organizations do.
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Actually, rat lungworm disease can be gotten many ways including from water and eating lettuce.

https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2019...e-to-cause-rat-lungworm-infections-in-hawaii/
 
Bugurl747 said:
There is always a new insect or super bug out there but with some basic knowledge and safety measures a lot of those illnesses can be prevented. I'm not saying there isn't a concern, but we practice a lot of the basic safety measures daily by cooking our food thoroughly, washing our hands. vaccinations, access to healthcare and proper precautions if one is immunocompromised, repellent sprays, and the ability to educate ourselves at our fingertips.

Regarding rat lung disease, humans can become infected if they eat (intentionally or otherwise) a raw or under cooked infected intermediate host, thereby ingesting the parasite like many other diseases we know about.

The Powatassin virus has killed 10 people in the US in the last 10 years. Like any tick borne disease, prevention is key.

MOO
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I have had Lyme disease twice. One time the tick was embedded above my eyelid. Who would have guessed. There is no prevention, They can be in your house brought in on someone’s clothing even if you have never left your house.

With changes in climate, we are getting creatures that never lived somewhere before.

We don’t know if there may be a new thing out there like with Powatassin or bird flu or who knows what.

I had zika and chikagunya . Once it goes through a population it is pretty much gone. They show up all of a sudden.

It seems like different situations for some of the people . It may be different things lumped into one coincidence
 
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JerseyGirl said:
Updating the title to 8 mysterious deaths:

Nathaniel Holmes - Bahia Principe, La Romana in May 2019
Cynthia Day - Bahia Principe, La Romana in May 2019
Miranda Schaup-Werner - Bahia Principe, La Romana in May 2019
Yvette Monique Sport - Bahia Principe, Punta Cana in 2018
Robert Wallace - Hard Rock Hotel & Casino, Punta Cana in April 2019
David Harrison - Hard Rock Hotel & Casino, Punta Cana in 2018
John Corcoran - (not disclosed) in April 2019
Leyla Cox - Excellence Resort, Punta Cana in June 2019

Another American Tourist Mysteriously Dies In Dominican Republic
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John Corcoran will need to be removed from the list. Per his family he was staying in a private home and there is no connection to the other cases.

Shark Tank Star Barbara Corcoran's Brother Died in the Dominican Republic
 
A group of Oklahoma-based Jimmy Buffet fans allegedly grew violently sick while visiting the Dominican Republic’s Hotel Riu Palace Macao on an April group trip to Punta Cana. 47 of the 114 people on the the trip got sick, with many unable to leave their rooms. some are still not feeling “normal” two months later.

47 Jimmy Buffett Fans Get Sick On Group Trip to Dominican Republic
 
CrimeDawg123 said:
re Leyla Cox
Dominican Republic death: American tourist Leyla Cox died last week in her hotel room - CNN

At this point, I don't know why any US citizen, or from any country for that matter, would choose to vacation in the Dominican Republic until more is know about these deaths.
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RBBM
Per the article you linked, 14 million Americans have visited the DR since 2012. 128 have died. Do the math.

Now, I might not be willing to take my chances by staying at these two brands (Bahia Principe and Hard Rock) right now, but statistically, this may be a case of the media whipping people into a frenzy. IMO.
 
NervousNellie said:
RBBM
Per the article you linked, 14 million Americans have visited the DR since 2012. 128 have died. Do the math.

Now, I might not be willing to take my chances by staying at these two brands (Bahia Principe and Hard Rock) right now, but statistically, this may be a case of the media whipping people into a frenzy. IMO.
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I agree the math over the years is in one's favor, however if dodgy booze is in play, are you really going to chance it?
 
CrimeDawg123 said:
I agree the math over the years is in one's favor, however if dodgy booze is in play, are you really going to chance it?
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I would absolutely "chance it," but I would definitely not drink the booze. And I would be fairly choosy about what I ate. While I generally prefer fresh foods, I would definitely eat processed and fully cooked food. Or a lot of bananas. :D

I'm not saying these recent deaths should not be investigated - I believe they should! And I'm very glad US officials are looking into them. But, IMO, these recent tragic deaths have happened in two resorts and I don't find that alarming (unless I had reservations at those resorts, of course!).
 
Well you also have to take into account the number of people that have fallen ill there, and not died. That is a number we really have no idea what it is. The concern I think is the number of deaths/illnesses in a relatively short period of time in a couple of specific places. If this is bad booze or illegal pesticides, the use may be on the increase and needs to be addressed. And I am afraid that without media attention and consumer pressure, there won't be any real investigation and corrections. If it is brought out in the light and not covered up, it provides disincentive to others doing it in the future.
 
This is a very small sample size and the numbers would not be statistically valid other than perhaps reflecting the demographics of their clientele.
 
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oceanblueeyes said:
It's like playing Russian roulette.

Statistics don't mean one thing to the one's who die or become seriously ill.

Imo
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Right. And if you get ill in that particular place, you can't trust the health-care system. That fact needs to be factored into the stats.

And if you're a victim of crime, you can't trust LE either, from what we're hearing.

jmo
 
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