Chase Merritt Charged W/Murder of Joseph, Summer, Gianni and Joe Jr McStay #4

New Posts

Status
Not open for further replies.
Tracy's testimony is gut wrenching.
Am also struck by the fact that Taylor is still there to support her father until the end. Sad to see, actually.
The ripple effect or as the PT has said the butterfly effect.
And CM seemed cold and removed from all the testimony.
Trying desperately to look like a lawyer, still. Actually taking notes? One can only imagine what he is writing.
 
TXFForever said:
Did anyone suspect CM before his arrest for this unspeakable crime?
Click to expand...

Interestingly enough—a few days ago, I dug back into the first couple of threads where Websleuths first discovered their disappearance, and there were a few people saying: “I bet it’s that guy who makes fountains for them.”

But, I wasn’t reading for most of the 4.5 years before he was arrested—I have the impression that people pursued a multitude of other theories during that time.
 
tmar said:
His nightmare has been going on for years, even before the arrest.
Always wondering.
I am pleased his health definitely has suffered throughout all this, and will continue to decline.
Now, he knows there is 'no lucky breaks', as previously, with these murders ruining this creep completely.
Very pleasing.
MOO.
Click to expand...
I *think* because of his sociopathic and narcissistic personality, he didn't have nightmares about the murders.
I don't even think he has nightmares of prison at this point, only ones of how he was done an injustice, his attorneys betrayed him, and how in the world could a jury convict such a talented artist like himself.
The tears we saw earlier in the trial were only CM mimicking what he believes one does when they're supposed to, We DID see his flashes of anger, almost rage, for brief moments.
Only someone like that could wipe out a family with a sledgehammer and then head off to the casino.
 
wary said:
Interestingly enough—a few days ago, I dug back into the first couple of threads where Websleuths first discovered their disappearance, and there were a few people saying: “I bet it’s that guy who makes fountains for them.”

But, I wasn’t reading for most of the 4.5 years before he was arrested—I have the impression that people pursued a multitude of other theories during that time.
Click to expand...

Patrick McStay did say during the time they were "missing" that one of the people Joey worked with had a record. CM is the only one I know of. There was also mention that Patrick let CM get "close" in an attempt to get information, whether through the "book" CM claimed he was writing or just "theories. Force10 would know more about that.
 
wary said:
Interestingly enough—a few days ago, I dug back into the first couple of threads where Websleuths first discovered their disappearance, and there were a few people saying: “I bet it’s that guy who makes fountains for them.”

But, I wasn’t reading for most of the 4.5 years before he was arrested—I have the impression that people pursued a multitude of other theories during that time.
Click to expand...

Some here were hoping they just walked away. But among those who thought they were dead, there were many theories pursued: Mikey, or Joey’s ex-wife’s husband, or even Summer did it. In fact there was a writer RB who wrote a scathing book accusing Summer. He was interviewed by Tricia and participated in the thread for awhile as a member (the threads are still available). IIRC CM helped provide info for his book. Even after they were found, I seem to recall that Patrick didn’t think CM was involved immediately. So CM seemed to fly under the radar here for the most part.
 
Last edited:
I see a lot of new people on this chat board about the murders of the McStay family in Fallbrook.
I have a statement to make, in case anyone gets confused.
I am NOT a member of either Joey's or Summer's families.
Nor, have I ever claimed to be.
I am simply a concerned person who lives in Fallbrook that wanted to help find this missing family.
That's it.
That the search for these four people ended up being one of the most terrible crimes I have ever heard of-has wrenched my heart.
However, I am not a family member, nor an insider.
I am just a neighbor who completely understands Joey and Summer's lifestyle.
It is very similar to ours.
I will be forever heartbroken about the cruelty this family endured.
But, never as heartbroken as their loving family members have endured.
I know, I said endured twice.
I will always mourn the lives of these four innocents.
This crime is beyond awful, and horrible like no movie director has even thought of.
I've only been observing. And it still hurts my heart so bad that anyone could slaughter this family.
 
Bernina said:
I *think* because of his sociopathic and narcissistic personality, he didn't have nightmares about the murders.
I don't even think he has nightmares of prison at this point, only ones of how he was done an injustice, his attorneys betrayed him, and how in the world could a jury convict such a talented artist like himself.
The tears we saw earlier in the trial were only CM mimicking what he believes one does when they're supposed to, We DID see his flashes of anger, almost rage, for brief moments.
Only someone like that could wipe out a family with a sledgehammer and then head off to the casino.
Click to expand...
This ^^^. I think you hit the nail on the head.
 
TXFForever said:
Did anyone suspect CM before his arrest for this unspeakable crime?
Click to expand...

I did. After I read his very first media interview I posted that I had bad vibes about him. I'm sure I posted that but I can't be bothered to try and find my post. Maybe I just liked a post that said the same thing I was feeling. I felt a bit uncomfortable at the time because many people thought he was genuine. I was creeped out by him from the beginning, which was just a gut feeling with no basis.
 
citygirl said:
Tracy's testimony is gut wrenching.
Am also struck by the fact that Taylor is still there to support her father until the end. Sad to see, actually.
The ripple effect or as the PT has said the butterfly effect.
And CM seemed cold and removed from all the testimony.
Trying desperately to look like a lawyer, still. Actually taking notes? One can only imagine what he is writing.[/QUOT

Probably notes to himself for when he talks to CJ, so he remembers to tell her she needs to put $$$ on his books.
Click to expand...
 
TXFForever said:
Did anyone suspect CM before his arrest for this unspeakable crime?
Click to expand...

Yes, I watched an interwiev in the beginning and said to myself: Look at him, he is lying. He did it. I had no doubt, that came later bcs I thought LE had him ruled out and I hoped they were in Mexico. When they were found and Merrit was arrested I said FINALLY!!!
 
citygirl said:
Tracy's testimony is gut wrenching.
Am also struck by the fact that Taylor is still there to support her father until the end. Sad to see, actually.
The ripple effect or as the PT has said the butterfly effect.
And CM seemed cold and removed from all the testimony.
Trying desperately to look like a lawyer, still. Actually taking notes? One can only imagine what he is writing.
Click to expand...

BBM
I've been thinking the same thing. How detached he his. Has anyone even seen him turn around and smile at his daughter? And he is still taking notes. lol

MOO
 
Thursday, June 20th:
*Penalty Phase Trial (Day 4) (@ 9:30am PT) - CA - McStay Family: Joseph (40), Summer (43), Gianni (4) & Joey Jr (3) (Feb. 4, 2010, Fallbrook; found Nov. 11, 2013) - *Charles "Chase" Ray Merritt aka Charles Ray Mandel aka Charles Ray Morritt aka Chase Meredith aka Chase Jarvis (57/now 62) arrested (11/5/14) & indicted (11/7/14) of 4 counts of murder with special circumstance. Plead not guilty. Held without bond. DP case.
Trial started 1/7/19. Dark on all Fridays. Jurors started with 8 women & 4 men; now have 9 women & 3 men (alternates started with 4 men & 2 women-alternates left 1 men & 1 woman). Took about 22 hours of deliberations for guilty verdict on all 4 counts of 1st degree murder with special circumstance.
Trial Days (1-63: 1/7/19 thru 6/7/19) & Verdict (6/10/19) & Penalty Phase Day 1 (6/11/19) reference post #275 here:
GUILTY - Chase Merritt Charged W/Murder of Joseph, Summer, Gianni and Joe Jr McStay #4
6/18/19 Day 2: Afternoon session only. State witness: Kenneth Aranda from Hawaii via Skype (Summer's brother). Done for the day. Prosecution wants testimony from Summer's Sister, Tracy Russell, who is currently on vacation in Greece via Skype tomorrow. If not, the pros will rest in the penalty phase. Penalty phase continues on 6/19.
6/19/19 Day 3: Tracy Russell (Summer's sister via Skype from Greece). Prosecution rests. Defense calls no witnesses. Defense rests. Judge Smith gave jury instructions. Closing statements were given by Prosecutors. Judge has to leave at 3:30pm, so Defense will begin closing tomorrow, 6/20.
Schedule for Penalty Phase-Week of June 17 thru 21st: NO court-6/17-Monday; Court on 6/18-Tuesday starts @ 1:30pm; Court on 6/19-Wednesday; Court on 6/20-Thursday; Court on 6/21-Friday (Maybe?).
Schedule for Penalty Phase-Week of June 24 thru 28th: Judge will give instructions for deliberations-6/24, Monday; Jury deliberations-6/25, Tuesday and on.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

DNASolves

Who is Escambia County John Doe (1989)?

Members online

... and 107 more.
Total: 3,643 (members: 108, guests: 3,535)

Online statistics

Members online
108
Guests online
3,535
Total visitors
3,643
Totals may include hidden visitors.

Forum statistics

Threads
591,880
Messages
17,960,296
Members
228,625
Latest member
julandken
Back
Top