Jets4Life
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You have no idea whether my "claims" are unfounded or not. These are not my claims. I choose to believe what Investigators that have worked on this case throughout the years, have said to the local paper, and reliable sources within the community rather than some TV show (Unsolved Mysteries).
Ok I should have said "in my opinion." I stand by that. It's no different than some who believe the Unsolved Mysteries version of events, and take it as gospel. If anything, you are being arrogant by dismissing my beliefs, and telling me I should blindly accept the narrative of some TV show, rather than what actual investigators in the case have stated. It's a message forum. People are free to believe what they want. IMO, I think the waitress was either mistaken, or not credible. Even if a girl did write "help me" on a piece of paper/napkin, it was probably a joke. The supposed restaurant incident took place nearly 4 years after she went missing, and if she really wanted help, she would almost certainly left legitimate clues as to her identity.
Rather than attack my opinion, why not try and convince me otherwise. By making it personal and attacking me, you are just going to make me double-down. It just takes some basic web sleuthing skills to understand how I reached this conclusion. When cases like this are high profile enough to be big news across the State, on most occasions, you get people who are sick enough to make staged or prank calls. There have been numerous cases of people who are unconnected in any way to these types of cases, phoning in, and claiming they have the kidnap victim, and trying to profit from it, by making ransom demands.
If you really step back and analyze the call, there are several reasons to believe it was not Antoinette. For starters, the young caller did not dial the local 9-1-1 number. She dialed the Gallop Police Department, and spoke to a 9-1-1 dispatcher from Gallop, even though she was in Albuquerque. That in itself makes little sense, considering if a child was being held against her will, she would almost certainly call 9-1-1, as children in North America have been instructed to do for decades, and not some long distance call. Secondly, the caller provides no useful clues in regards to where she is or who took her. She claims she is Anthonette Cayedito, and that is pretty much it, gives no indication of where she is located, or who has taken her. That in itself makes me lean to believe that it was a heartless prank.
When there is a murder or a kidnapping, the general rule for law enforcement is to eliminate the people that are closest to Anthonette (immediate family, etc). They were never able to do this with the mother.
The problem with the 3 AM abduction theory is it is the families version of events, and cannot be collaborated by other witnesses. I would not put too much weight into believing anything Penny has to say, as she was a suspect in the disappearance, , to the point that investigators attempted to get her to confess as to what happen to Anthonette in 1999 while she was on her death bed in hospital. A more credible theory involves a van witnessed pulling up to the house between 6-7 AM. I've always been of the opinion that too many people put too much emphasis on the Unsolved Mysteries version of events. The phone call and restaurant encounter, and "Uncle Joe" look "sexy' for NBC, but cannot be substantiated in any way. I've spoken to relatives of people involved in three different UM cases, and all of them have claimed that the show was more interested in ratings and making it attractive to the TV viewer, rather than get an accurate portrayal of the events surrounding the case.
Ok I should have said "in my opinion." I stand by that. It's no different than some who believe the Unsolved Mysteries version of events, and take it as gospel. If anything, you are being arrogant by dismissing my beliefs, and telling me I should blindly accept the narrative of some TV show, rather than what actual investigators in the case have stated. It's a message forum. People are free to believe what they want. IMO, I think the waitress was either mistaken, or not credible. Even if a girl did write "help me" on a piece of paper/napkin, it was probably a joke. The supposed restaurant incident took place nearly 4 years after she went missing, and if she really wanted help, she would almost certainly left legitimate clues as to her identity.
Rather than attack my opinion, why not try and convince me otherwise. By making it personal and attacking me, you are just going to make me double-down. It just takes some basic web sleuthing skills to understand how I reached this conclusion. When cases like this are high profile enough to be big news across the State, on most occasions, you get people who are sick enough to make staged or prank calls. There have been numerous cases of people who are unconnected in any way to these types of cases, phoning in, and claiming they have the kidnap victim, and trying to profit from it, by making ransom demands.
If you really step back and analyze the call, there are several reasons to believe it was not Antoinette. For starters, the young caller did not dial the local 9-1-1 number. She dialed the Gallop Police Department, and spoke to a 9-1-1 dispatcher from Gallop, even though she was in Albuquerque. That in itself makes little sense, considering if a child was being held against her will, she would almost certainly call 9-1-1, as children in North America have been instructed to do for decades, and not some long distance call. Secondly, the caller provides no useful clues in regards to where she is or who took her. She claims she is Anthonette Cayedito, and that is pretty much it, gives no indication of where she is located, or who has taken her. That in itself makes me lean to believe that it was a heartless prank.
When there is a murder or a kidnapping, the general rule for law enforcement is to eliminate the people that are closest to Anthonette (immediate family, etc). They were never able to do this with the mother.
The problem with the 3 AM abduction theory is it is the families version of events, and cannot be collaborated by other witnesses. I would not put too much weight into believing anything Penny has to say, as she was a suspect in the disappearance, , to the point that investigators attempted to get her to confess as to what happen to Anthonette in 1999 while she was on her death bed in hospital. A more credible theory involves a van witnessed pulling up to the house between 6-7 AM. I've always been of the opinion that too many people put too much emphasis on the Unsolved Mysteries version of events. The phone call and restaurant encounter, and "Uncle Joe" look "sexy' for NBC, but cannot be substantiated in any way. I've spoken to relatives of people involved in three different UM cases, and all of them have claimed that the show was more interested in ratings and making it attractive to the TV viewer, rather than get an accurate portrayal of the events surrounding the case.
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