CA - Mass shooting at Gilroy Garlic Festival, 3 dead up to 11 injured, 28 July 2019

This is very true and it shows how biased the news media can be. They have a certain "agenda" to put forward and then try to color the facts to support it.

It is just this sort of thing one sees often in network news programs, particularly CNN. And they wonder why they have such a reputation for "Fake News".

I believe this position is a bit premature. We don't know yet where this kid's head was. I believe the media is reporting what is known, so far, IMO.

We may never know what drove him to do what he did, but it's really quite unfair for ANYONE to paint the motive to fit their own (political) agenda, IMO.

With social media and text messaging - i.e. - less human and social interaction - I believe we'll see more and more of this in the future. It's quite frightening, IMO.
 
I believe this position is a bit premature. We don't know yet where this kid's head was. I believe the media is reporting what is known, so far, IMO.

We may never know what drove him to do what he did, but it's really quite unfair for ANYONE to paint the motive to fit their own (political) agenda, IMO.

With social media and text messaging - i.e. - less human and social interaction - I believe we'll see more and more of this in the future. It's quite frightening, IMO.
Yes, LE has stated they don't think he targeted a particular race. It seemed to be totally random.
It could take months to figure out the motive, if at all. Imo
 
Yes, LE has stated they don't think he targeted a particular race. It seemed to be totally random.
It could take months to figure out the motive, if at all. Imo

"Investigators may never know what drove shooter Santino William Legan to go on a shooting rampage at the Gilroy Garlic Festival — killing three people and wounding 16 others, a federal official said this week....

'We have not yet determined [Legan’s] ideology,' he said, according to the report.....

'As we look at the injuries and the victims that are out there, it doesn’t seem clear that he was targeting any particular group,' he said. 'It seems very random at this point.' "

https://nypost.com/2019/08/02/garli...know-santino-legans-motive-fbi-official-says/
 
A radical Islamic preacher has had 29 million 'views' on You Tube and 19 million 'likes'. The link also has view data on various white nationalist type people as well (one has had 400,000 views).
Any source that lumps "Muslim Brotherhood" with ISIS has no clue about what is "radical islam" but this is a serious discussion for another forum, not websleuths.

Nazis convinced only 30% of Germans that radical Jews were the root cause of all their problems.
 
Any source that lumps "Muslim Brotherhood" with ISIS has no clue about what is "radical islam" but this is a serious discussion for another forum, not websleuths.
Still no sources to support your previous claims?

My source does not say that ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood are one in the same. Rather, they identify both as extremists. As a side note, the Anti Defamation League also identifies the Muslim Brotherhood as extremist:

https://www.adl.org/sites/default/f...rael-flourishes-in-new-egypt-2013-1-11-v1.pdf

Here is are some examples of proclamations made by Muslim Brotherhood leaders. They sound pretty extremist to me:

and they (Jews) have increased their corruption throughout the world,

The hour will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them, even when the Jews hide behind the rocks and the trees, the rocks and the trees will say: O' Muslim, O' servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.'"

Both nations [Iran and Egypt] underline the necessity for Muslim nations to maintain solidarity and unity to annihilate this cancerous tumor (Israel)… Every night when I go to bed, I pray to wake up the next day to see Israel is wiped off the map." (Al Masry Al Youm, July 13, 2011)
Nazis convinced only 30% of Germans that radical Jews were the root cause of all their problems.
Lets hope that extremist groups like the Muslim Brotherhood don't have the same goal.
 
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"The Santa Clara County coroner told the Associated Press that Gilroy Garlic Festival shooter Santino William Legan, 19, killed himself, “contradicting police account that officers fired the fatal shot.”

The AP reported that senior office specialist in the Santa Clara County Medical Examiner-Coroner’s Office Nicole Lopez said “Legan’s cause of death was a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

Gilroy Police have a press conference scheduled Friday evening."

Report: Coroner Says Santino William Legan Killed Himself | Heavy.com
 
"The Santa Clara County coroner told the Associated Press that Gilroy Garlic Festival shooter Santino William Legan, 19, killed himself, “contradicting police account that officers fired the fatal shot.”

The AP reported that senior office specialist in the Santa Clara County Medical Examiner-Coroner’s Office Nicole Lopez said “Legan’s cause of death was a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

Gilroy Police have a press conference scheduled Friday evening."

Report: Coroner Says Santino William Legan Killed Himself | Heavy.com
Well. That's interesting.
I guess he wanted to make sure he was not taken alive.
Still doesn't change the fact that the quick and immediate response by LE likely saved many lives.
 
Gilroy Gunman Showed No Signs of Violence, Says Former Boss

He was literally the hardest working person in the kitchen," said his former employer, who did not want to be named.

Auriella Bashaw-Hightower, who also worked alongside Legan, remembers him as polite and hardworking.

“When I found out it was Santino, I was just blown away,” Bashaw-Hightower said. “He was really nice … I would never expect anything like this from him.”
 
Gilroy Garlic Festival Killer a 'Loner,' Motive a Mystery: FBI

"We understand him to be kind of a loner," said Craig Fair, deputy special agent in charge of the FBI's San Francisco Division. "People who act alone are exceptionally dangerous because they ... may not communicate their plans, intentions, mindset — they may not impart that on other people."
 
some examples of proclamations made by Muslim Brotherhood leaders. They sound pretty extremist to me:
...
Lets hope that extremist groups like the Muslim Brotherhood don't have the same goal.
Holocaust happened because 30% of German population was brainwashed with such materials, attributed to Jewish leaders.

Turkey, Qatar, Tunisia are being run by Muslim Brotherhood affiliated parties. Egypt also, before another murderous dictator was installed.

Anyway, Gilroy killer's "radical islam" or "Muslim Brotherhood" links have not been made public. So we only have two public posts ranting about mixed race and Silicon Valley educated white females.
 
News link posted earlier, DA office removed only the "white supremacist" material from early descriptions.

Legan's most recent listed address turned up items including a bulletproof vest, gas mask, empty ammo boxes, gun pamphlets, an empty diazepam bottle, assorted electronic devices and what the Mineral County District Attorney's Office described as a "letter from Virginia to Santino."
 
IMG_20190803_074449.jpg IMG_20190803_074222.jpg

Gravestone of Gilroy shooter's Iran-born Grandfather shows "Allen O Baylor" name and clear Christian motif.

Iran still has Christian and Jewish citizens. Former Canadian defence minister MacKay married Iranian Christian model, Nazanin Afshin-Jam.

I am also uploading a photo of Virginia Gaines Holden with William Holden at a 1955 award ceremony.

The mysterious "Virginia to Santino" letter should be made public, as it could provide insight into SWL's motives.

My hunch is that SWL mistakenly thought his grandmother was 1/4 mixed-race Philippino, based on above Getty photo. He may also have thought his Iranian grandfather was a practicing muslim.

My hunch is that he felt conflicted about those mistaken assumptions as he became a Christian White Supremacist.
 
Allen O Baylor obituary was published on June 3, 2000 in Ventura County Star.

He was a professor of Economics in the USA since 1970. His children are Mary, Ardis, Anna, and David. All Christian names, including Ardis. His 9 grandchildren in 2001 have Christian given names except one.

I am amazed how anti-muslim bigots quickly latched on to Santino William Legan's "Iranian" heritage, and spread rumours of "radical islam" links.

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Literally can't believe there are 2 other shootings just since this one. Also surprised there hasn't been more information about this guy released. Especially since hes a 19 year old in the social media era. Last article stated they can not find a motive yet. Isn't that the most terrifying? That there's no sign, no reasoning behind people that are capable of doing something like this. To me that is even worse than being a racist, hate filled person, or radicalized, or mentally ill. There is literally nothing to target to try to learn more about the WHY and how to avoid it from a human or personality stand point.
 
FBI: Gilroy Garlic Festival Shooter Was 'Exploring Violent Ideologies'; Domestic Terrorism Investigation Launched

“Our collection and review of the digital media in this case is ongoing, we are continuing to access data on several devices,” Bennett said. “We have uncovered evidence throughout the course of our investigation that the shooter was exploring violent ideologies. We have seen a fractured ideology. The shooter appeared to have an interest in varying, competing violent ideologies.”

Also discovered among Legan’s digital devices was a list of potential targets.

“The FBI and Gilroy police investigators have discovered a list of organizations that may have been potential targets of violence,” Bennett said. “These organizations from across the country include religious organizations, institutions, federal buildings, courthouses, political organizations of both major political parties and the Gilroy Garlic Festival.”
 
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Authorities are investigating the deadly Gilroy Garlic Festival shooting as domestic terrorism after discovering the gunman had a "target list" — including churches, courthouses and locations specific to both political parties.

He revealed investigators discovered a "target list" compiled by the gunman, that included nationwide religious institutions, federal buildings, courthouses and locations identified with both major political parties — but didn't include the names of people. He said the Gilroy Garlic Festival was among the targets.

Gilroy Garlic Festival being investigated as domestic terrorism after gunman's 'target list' found, FBI says
 
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