This is odd. They look like the same person in the recons and upon seeing them side by side I thought they were from the same profile.
The “partial remains” seems confusing also. I take one as being partially skeletonized, meaning most of the bones were found and contained some soft tissue. “Near complete or complete skeleton”...I think this means the person was almost completely bones, not that the entire skeleton was not there. If that makes any sense.
The other I take as being partial skeletal parts only, meaning not all the bones were found (in this case the hands in particular).
I’d think they were the same if they both didn’t have facial recons and both were
measured at 5’4” tall. But then, those similarities are hard to ignore. Studying the features of each recon, I think they’re different people. But you’re right, they’re remarkably similar.
Yes that makes sense. I was reading it like that, but felt genuinely like some error was made due to the likeness. I decided to delve a little deeper since I am a little more awake at the moment.
Their age ranges are:
30-44 and 40-55 so the age range does sort of cross as well.
I was looking on Doe network, it says:
The Doe Network: Case File 651UFLA
NamUs #UP682
The victim was discovered on February 19, 1982 near Stephenville, Saint Martin Parish, Louisiana
Estimated Date of Death: 3 Months prior to discovery
Cause of Death: Blunt trauma to the head
State of Remains: Partial Skeleton
Formerly Hot Case 205
- Estimated age: 40-55 years old
- Approximate Height and Weight: 5'4".
- Distinguishing Characteristics: Previously injured nose, left rib, and three vertebra.
- Skeletal Findings: Antemortem trauma to the nose with remodeling in surrounding areas; antemortem fracture on left 7th rib; antemortem compression fractures on thoracic verts 5 through 7.
- Clothing: Western style green plaid shirt, size 12.
- Jewelry: Two rings, a 3 stone engagement ring and a gold ring with an emerald stone. She also had a pendant with a bull and a star.
- Dentals: Upper and lower jaw had no teeth during life; pronounced bone resorption and remodeling suggest a long-term denture wearer, though no dentures were recovered at scene.
- DNA: Complete - Profile available at state lab
Case History
The victim was located on the river side (Belle River) of the levee in a wooded area at the Nine Mile Board, off of Highway 70, near Stephenville, Louisiana on February 19, 1982.
- The victim suffered a severe facial injury shortly before her death.
1509UFLA
NamUs #UP2213
Date of Discovery: December 3, 1982
Location of Discovery: Orleans Parish, Louisiana
Estimated Date of Death: 1982
State of Remains: Partial skeletal
Cause of Death: Homicide
Estimated Age: 33-44 years old
- Race: White
- Sex: Female
- Height: 5'3" to 5'6"
- Weight: Unknown
- Hair Color: Unknown
- Eye Color: Unknown
- Distinguishing Marks/Features: Left forearm was possibly amputated. Previously broken nose.
Dentals:Available. She wore dentures.
- Fingerprints: Not available.
- DNA: Available.
Clothing: A bra and panties (description unavailable).
- Jewelry: Yellow-metal necklace with nine round beads spaced equally apart.
- Additional Personal Items: Unknown.
Wow, ok, both appear to be partial. They, they might actually be the same Jane Doe. Both wore dentures. They look like twins. Overlapping age-ranges. Same height on NamUs. Both found in 1982, one which has estimated time of death of 3 months, and the other has the year 1982 listed. Both had a broken nose.
One is a facial reconstruction, the other appears to be a photograph....?
One profile says the woman was a denture-wearer but none was found, on the other one it states they have the actual dentures.
Uh, I kinda feel I should ask somebody about this? Who do I even contact about this kinda stuff? The NamUs folks?
