Glad to see that my one post was removed. Was it Hawaiian Garden Spider or Clown Kolar?
For how bad the "discussion", review my post history. First two posts, and it's, no, that's settled, yada, yada... No, actually it hasn't been settled. So much so that we are never going to know, more on that in a bit. But why don't we start with some blissfully unaware of what it means to garrote another human being, let alone one's child. So that wasn't staged. More on this in a bit as well.
Next, the "ransom" to mislead the police. Right, if they weren't clowns, simply for evidence purposes and never mind the thought of finding here ther, something remotely resembling a competent search finds that body within an hour of their arrival. And for how not misleading, yeah, put her there in the open, where you can see her with the door open, or as soon as you open it. Ever think of stuffing her into a box? The dryer, and then some close to hide her? And have you viewed Google map? Here:
Google Maps
See the wilderness there at the bottom? Yeah, so instead of garroting, that would be Bundylike, bash her in the head one more time, throw her into something and then out the window there in the wilderness.
So, I'm supposed to believe that someone who isn't Bundy garroted their own child, and then, the note that won't mislead anyone, within the hour at most, if they aren't clowns.
And someone living in the house wrote that note? Jebus wept. It's two and half pages. First, the more she wrote, the more she would be her. That isn't the note. Next, the note has sufficient explainable dissimilarity to rule Patsy out. And that's all in the piece linked below, the notion of dissimilarity.
And for that gravy train, Wong and that dude, 100% certain, see the long paragraph here:
Cina Wong & David Liebman Denied Request to Testify before The GJ : JonBenetRamsey
Oh, they didn't even come close to following accepted practice, and they interjected themselves, and they did so for money, and as anyone with a functioning cerebral knows, they'd be shredded on cross. Perhaps that explains the posts here in their favor.
And speaking of cross, I was a trial attorney for more decades than I care to remember. And that spider, 30-60 minutes, at night, possibly. So photo the thing, video the thing, take it away, preserve a sufficient amount in a sterile environment for later defense testing, and test the web. Sticky silk. So it's going to collect dust, micro particles particularly well. And so put something else sticky there, for some time, and see what sticks. Then compare to the spider web. Clown Kolar says, it was there, so compelling evidence. And one wonders why the DA's office wasn't exactly thrilled with the PD. Since the testing might have indicated that the web was but a few hours old.
And that CBS show, still posted here on saying how great that was. You know what it means to republish defamatory material? And your defense that you don't moderate is rather contradicted by the removal of my prior post. Don't worry, they won't sue you, as you lack the ability to satisfy the judgment, or maybe you file bankruptcy. CBS couldn't do either, so they paid up. And that case might be this case:
Did a Dingo Really Get Her Baby? | HuffPost
The important part:
On February 02, 1986, a British rock climber fell to his death on Ayers Rock. During the search for his body, Azaria’s missing matinee jacket was found — partially buried in the sand outside a previously unknown dingo den. The examination found matching perforations in the coat consistent with the jumpsuit cuts.
After first saying, it was not possible.
They had found some other clothes by a dingo den prior. But not the dingo dun it, because the dude from Oz land who might have enjoyed CBS opined that, based on his models, a dingo couldn't carry a child by its head. After all was said and done, and over, someone should have asked that clown, So, you were saying something about your models? How did that turn out? There was also the other "expert" and the ultraviolet light who said, no, no, no dingo, this was scissors to cut. How did that turn out? And the other "expert", I found some hemoglobin. Turns out was chocolate shake and some spray, and ain't that a hoot.
And why the accused a right to an attorney:
Coroner Morris also had the class not to single out individuals. Without her saying, it was evident the police, prosecution, and forensic people instinctively reacted as they’d been trained to react—and that was to individually find evidence to support their case interest and not to follow what didn’t fit.
And so the Ramseys maintained their freedom because they were rich, which means that unlike our gal in Oz land, they had the resources to mount an adequate defense. Clown central hasn't hurt either.
And let me interject, CPS case, mom with three kids, claim is, abused the middle child worst of all.
Records depo, middle child's school, primarily done for attendance record and absence of reports of observing any abuse.
But, there's always a but, school counselor note, about 2.5 months before CPS case. [middle child's given name omitted] reports that the only good thing that she could say about her mother is that her mother doesn't beat her when she is bad.
And so, if middle beat worst of all, then mother must beat her only when she is good. That case went to permanent plan hearing (so possible of permanent loss of parental rights, etc.). Everyone but me and my client, mom, brushed that note away as it were a gnat. So see the quote below, from the pathologist. Been there and seen that, and in more than the described instance. Happens every day. Something else that needs to be accepted and then we can act accordingly.
Now for the one pathologist who went on to say, after the whole thing was over:
"The scientist shouldn't become too adventurous, too competitive. The trouble is, we're all so human. I've never seen a case more governed by human frailties."--Dr. Tony Jones, government pathologist in the Chamberlain trial
Now well and truly lastly, the most critical item here. The failure to appreciate the reality that sometimes we just won't ever know. And that's even if no one is clown. Best effort and all the resources needed. Sometimes it's just not enough. My problem was and is, the garroting. I'm not even slightly annoyed by the removal of my prior post. But I am disturbed that some throw out the claim, they garroted their child, as if they were ordering pizza. Please, try to wrap your head what it means psychologically to garrote another human being, and perhaps worst of all, your own child. And the absurd idea of a two and a half page note to mislead when a remotely competent investigation would have found the body within an hour of police arrival, and even on Christmas Day. Sure, check the boxes, she may be in one, check the dryers, might be there, but first a quick run through to observe the open and obvious, you know, like her body laying there in plain view.
As I said, sometimes there is no answer. Need to accept that. My own view is that someone hated either or both of the Ramseys with a rage that I will never understand. This was a case of, I am going to completely negate the humanity of your daughter, entirely dehumanize her, bash, garrote and just enough sexual abuse to have you know that she was defiled, and you spend the rest of your life thinking about that, and did you like the note, as I thought it was a nice touch. Should include this case in the tort textbook in the section on the intentional infliction of emotional distress. Since with that tort, this was the perfect tort. Murder? Sex abuse? Botched kidnap? Means to an end. This was about sending a message. And so also helps, to borrow from Bartlett to Sam, to see the whole board. And the mind that would do that, is also the mind that would garrote a child. Christ, another bash on the head would have been enough to kill her. And still would have provided valuable cover. Would have actually looked more like a botched kidnap.
And with that I am outta here...call it my voluntary exile...call some dude a clown, deservedly so, add a Hawaiian garden spider, beautiful by the way, and safe for humans, and never mind an entire thread on some child, a brother, responsible, and never mind that even after someone got sued and wrote the settlement check for saying the same thing. But this site isn't alone, since even on reddit. Pops did it to avoid a check of her genitals. Yeah, as if killing her wouldn't accomplish that quicker. Always helps to think.
Now, for some free advice, again, think of what it means to garrote another human and ask yourself, where is the history of anything even close to that in the lives of these humans. You don't wake up one day and garrote another human. Why even the worst of us start with inanimate objects, then small animals...and when we do find the worst of the abused child, there's injuries aplenty, differing times of infliction, to include healed fractures, plural. And who was that one gal, Smith? Left hers in the car in the lake. And then went away, her way of overcoming the inhibition. And remember that gal who drowned the kids? So they wouldn't be tortured by demons. Ramseys ever mention something like that to anyone? Ramseys ever that certifiably insane? Amazes me, these wild statements and here folks are on the El Paso and Dayton thread, prior history anyone? Yeah, cause you don't go to Walmart and kill 20 strangers without some prior evidence that something is rotten in Denmark. Maybe before we accuse a Ramsey, might want to extend the same courtesy.
