GUILTY FL - Dan Markel, 41, FSU Law Professor, Tallahassee, 18 July 2014 - #8 *arrests*

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Jacob Murphey‏ @jmurpheyWCTV 14m14 minutes ago
I spoke too soon. Judge announces the jury will soon be taken by van to a nearby hotel, kept in rooms on an isolated floor, and brought back tomorrow at 8:45a to continue deliberations. Day ten of the #MarkelTrial ends after 4.5 hours of deliberations.

 

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Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 1h1 hour ago
#MarkelMurder - Jury has two questions: 1. If person B accompanies person A with the shared intent to commit robbery and person A commits premeditated murder during robbery and B didn't know it was going to happen is person B a "Principal" to the premeditated murder?


Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 1h1 hour ago
#MarkelMurder - Jury question #2: Does "principal" apply to conspiracy?


Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 1h1 hour ago
#MarkelMurder - Judge answers to jury questions: 1. Your ? asks me to apply the facts to the law. I am not able to do that. That's your job. 2. No, the law of principals does not apply to the conspiracy charge.

 

[pattisbox]

i didnt make it

i have a cough & i thought it best to stay away

 

[lauraoh]

Gotcha. I am in Pensacola, went to college in Gainesville and Tally and wondered what you meant. North Florida is definitely more conservative than South - for sure.

Tallahassee and Gainesville are a lot alike.

 

[justice1960]

Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 1h1 hour ago
#MarkelMurder - Jury has two questions: 1. If person B accompanies person A with the shared intent to commit robbery and person A commits premeditated murder during robbery and B didn't know it was going to happen is person B a "Principal" to the premeditated murder?


Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 1h1 hour ago
#MarkelMurder - Jury question #2: Does "principal" apply to conspiracy?


Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 1h1 hour ago
#MarkelMurder - Judge answers to jury questions: 1. Your ? asks me to apply the facts to the law. I am not able to do that. That's your job. 2. No, the law of principals does not apply to the conspiracy charge.

Very good, Thanks!

 

[lauraoh]

i have a cough & i thought it best to stay away

Smart. Judge Hankinson's courtroom is the coldest place in town.

 

[clearskies1]

" State exhibits 93 - 96 are maps related to cell tower information. The computerized maps were demonstrative aids and are not available as exhibits."

You will simply have to Collectively remember his testimony as to any other cell tower mapping information."

Wondering if jury can ask for read backs of testimony.

 

[clearskies1]

" State exhibits 93 - 96 are maps related to cell tower information. The computerized maps were demonstrative aids and are not available as exhibits."

You will simply have to Collectively remember his testimony as to any other cell tower mapping information."

Deleted -- double post. Sorry.

 

[dotr]

Wondering if jury can ask for read backs of testimony.

How about playbacks? @ 4:30 cell phone data screened.

 

[jbc]

Smart. Judge Hankinson's courtroom is the coldest place in town.

yeah...that's what I thought SG was doing - warming up his hands and blowing in to them (if I recall).

 

[TTF14]

The jury has to be exhausted. I would have loved a verdict tonight but they will be rested and clear headed in the morning.

I think it's good they will have the night to sleep on it, pray about it, maybe get a dream revelation about the truth. Justice is coming.

 

[FreddyG]

Generally speaking quicker verdicts tend to be more likely to convict. But this is still a pretty short deliberation so far. If it goes all day tomorrow I’ll start to worry they are leaning acquittal or hung.

 

[TTF14]

Generally speaking quicker verdicts tend to be more likely to convict. But this is still a pretty short deliberation so far. If it goes all day tomorrow I’ll start to worry they are leaning acquittal or hung.

Agree. Not acquittal....no way. But hung, that's what I worry about.

 

[friendlyobserver]

why would the jury ask the odd question about two partners, one going for a robbery and one for a murder? in what scenario is this even relevant? if it were relevant it would be for LR - but SG was in it for murder all along. And KM ordered it. Were they not listening?

 

[kooshx]

Generally speaking quicker verdicts tend to be more likely to convict. But this is still a pretty short deliberation so far. If it goes all day tomorrow I’ll start to worry they are leaning acquittal or hung.

Keep in mind that if the jury isn't comfortable with murder one, they can still convict them of second degree or manslaughter. I'd be disappointed, but it may give the prosecution more leverage to cut a deal with KM (for whatever she is still worth) because the sentencing guidelines are less stringent.

 

[Gardenista]

why would the jury ask the odd question about two partners, one going for a robbery and one for a murder? in what scenario is this even relevant? if it were relevant it would be for LR - but SG was in it for murder all along. And KM ordered it. Were they not listening?

I hope the combining of the cases was not too confusing.

 

[dotr]

Wondering if some might be reluctant to "condemn" both
parents equally because of the children ?
imo, speculation.

 

[clearskies1]

My mind is still blown by the jury's first question. I need a drink.

 

[friendlyobserver]

OH gosh - worried!

My mind is still blown by the jury's first question. I need a drink.

 

[Marysmith]

My mind is still blown by the jury's first question. I need a drink.

It is worrisome. We all know a lot about the case but maybe it looks different with very little knowledge. And honestly we all know people that would struggle on a jury... it’s not easy to handpick people that can think through all this evidence properly sometimes.