MO - Sherrill Levitt, 47, Suzie Streeter, 19, & Stacy McCall, 18, Springfield, 7 June 1992 #11

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If somebody knocked and got them out of the house because of a gas leak then cinnamon (the dog) wouldn’t of been left behind. No lovable owner is going to think let’s just leave the dog to die.

So true! I would think you would also have time to put on clothes.
 
Hopefully this show doesn't make them worse. Being under suspicion for the disappearance of your mom and sister for 27 years can't be easy. Especially if you you left things on bad terms. I'm sure he feels like if had he been around, or not drinking everything would be different. That has to be hard.
We don’t know Bartt’s history with his family but it is sad that Sherrill’s and Suzie’s disappearances didn’t bring them closer.
If there is a neighborhood gas leak wouldn't it be weird if your neighbors weren't being escorted out of their homes too? They were in a house which that would be harder to evacuate than an apartment. Wouldn't police and firemen be there if it was a street wide thing?
The fire department would’ve evacuated people
 
We don’t know Bartt’s history with his family but it is sad that Sherrill’s and Suzie’s disappearances didn’t bring them closer.

The fire department would’ve evacuated people

Thanks! I felt like you should be disturbed if someone claims there is a gas leak or shows up at you home in a gas mask.
 
It’s borderline laughable to suggest a sloppy drunk made 3 women disappear-without a trace.
Edited to add: The only reason it isn’t funny is Bartt apparently has serious issues

What about a younger stronger "black out" drunk with a bad temper and a bad relationship with both Mother and Sister? One whose own Aunt couldn't/wouldn't speak nicely about.
 
What about a younger stronger "black out" drunk with a bad temper and a bad relationship with both Mother and Sister? One whose own Aunt couldn't/wouldn't speak nicely about.
He'd still have to get rid of the bodies. And manage to leave almost no trace of foul play. I would think if someone killed them in a fit of rage there would be a struggle, blood, and anger leave a brutal crime scene behind. MOO
 
What if he had them tie or tape each other? They all walked out to a vehicle alive. Then they were driven somewhere else, strangled/shot/stabbed/murdered and the remains fed to hogs? No muss no fuss. That this could happen is my opinion only.
 
What if he had them tie or tape each other? They all walked out to a vehicle alive. Then they were driven somewhere else, strangled/shot/stabbed/murdered and the remains fed to hogs? No muss no fuss. That this could happen is my opinion only.

In the home of two victims and a friend who may have been comfortable there, controlling all three women would be hard. Even with multiple perpetrators transporting them from the house to a car you would expect some struggle. Or a show of force that would leave blood behind. It would be easier to take Stacy and Suzie when they were out and get Sherrill later possibly because she went looking for her daughter or woke up as people were dropping off cars. There re so many possibilities. I think most people know that if you being taken away from your home your chance of survival goes down.
 
I still think the house was staged to some extent and it’s been awhile but i think the cops thought that as well.

Even if you took 2 of them quietly I don’t think Stacey would of gone without a huge struggle and the house just seemed too normal imo
 
If you don't know these women and if you've never been victimized by someone with a weapon you have no idea how anybody would react. Fight? We all like to think we or anybody in that situation would. The truth is that no one knows how they or anybody else would react. Some people literally freeze when confronted with danger. Two SMALL (none of the women were tall) exhausted girls who had been to graduation and then partied all night would hardly be a threat, able to fight or run, to an able bodied man with a gun.
 
If you don't know these women and if you've never been victimized by someone with a weapon you have no idea how anybody would react. Fight? We all like to think we or anybody in that situation would. The truth is that no one knows how they or anybody else would react. Some people literally freeze when confronted with danger. Two SMALL (none of the women were tall) exhausted girls who had been to graduation and then partied all night would hardly be a threat, able to fight or run, to an able bodied man with a gun.

Usually there is a sign of a struggle even if it is in the grass. When people are taken from their homes or attacked at home there is usually something that shows resistance or even surprise. Jodi Huisentruit was abducted by her car. Her shoe was left behind along with items she carried and there were drag marks from her shoes on the pavement. It's not the same situation but even if you don't fight because of a gun. Footprints, drag marks, usually something is left behind. They are just gone.
 
It is impossible to say what evidence may have been left behind because of the scene itself being so compromised with friends and relatives coming and going freely before the police were even notified.
 
It is impossible to say what evidence may have been left behind because of the scene itself being so compromised with friends and relatives coming and going freely before the police were even notified.

Hopefully blood wasn't ignored.
 
If you don't know these women and if you've never been victimized by someone with a weapon you have no idea how anybody would react. Fight? We all like to think we or anybody in that situation would. The truth is that no one knows how they or anybody else would react. Some people literally freeze when confronted with danger. Two SMALL (none of the women were tall) exhausted girls who had been to graduation and then partied all night would hardly be a threat, able to fight or run, to an able bodied man with a gun.


How do you know that ?

from the early reports Stacey left behind a bloody footprint ( I don’t know if that’s been confirmed but I definitely read it somewhere) which would indicate she didn’t go easy. Plus “if” somebody knocked at that door then Stacey would Not of gone and answered it as it was not her home so you have 3 women in different parts of the home that you then have to try and control.

IMO
 
How do you know that ?

from the early reports Stacey left behind a bloody footprint ( I don’t know if that’s been confirmed but I definitely read it somewhere) which would indicate she didn’t go easy. Plus “if” somebody knocked at that door then Stacey would Not of gone and answered it as it was not her home so you have 3 women in different parts of the home that you then have to try and control.

IMO

Did they confirm the footprint?
 
Did they confirm the footprint?


I don’t know as I have read so many things over the years it’s hard to keep track. But the police confirmed they went out the front door because of finger prints

"Police have found thumbprints and concluded that the three women left through the front door rather than the carport door of levitt's house. They also have concluded McCall left barefoot." NL July 8 1992


So they must have something because how would they know if it was finger prints from the girls arriving at the home and not leaving?
 
I've been thinking about the fact that both Suzie and Stacy's cars were found parked at Delmar the next morning.

I have always questioned whether or not those two cars were actually driven there by the girls....you know, whether or not they made it to the house at all that night, even with the supposed evidence of getting ready for bed, like make-up on wash-clothes and all.

So stay with me a second. This is very telling if I'm thinking correctly.

If only Suzie and / or Stacy were the target, then the girls must have made it to Delmar, because nobody would take the cars back to Sherrill's house, and then have to abduct her too.

Sherrill must have been either the target or at least her AND Suzie....this is the popular "somebody already in the house / car in the driveway scenerio".

I find it hard to believe that no signs of struggle were evident, if the girls came home and interrupted anything already in progress.

Something else that bothers me: the purses. Am I correct in understanding Sherrill's cigarettes were found IN HER PURSE? And everybody's keys were found IN THEIR PURSES?? To me, that means either everybody just walked in the door, everybody was fixing to head out the door, or somebody staged the whole thing. Unless Sherrill had a few packs laying around, she wouldn't have left her only open pack in her purse if she were planning on being home all night. Ladies, is it common when you walk in the door to put your keys back in your purse, or do you hang them somewhere or put them on a table or counter? My wife is 50/50 whether she puts them in her purse or puts them on the kitchen island next to her purse.

Small details, but if anyone knows these things with certainty, it may be enough reason to narrow down some of the numerous theories....to this day, we don't even know for certain who the target was or why.

One more thought....was this latest documentary scripted out before or after Bartt's failed abduction recently in TN?? If the failed abduction was known at the time of the documentary, this could explain why Bartt's character was assassinated this time around. I know I certainly lost some respect for the guy....although I firmly believe he was not involved.

Everything above obviously being MOO'd from the cow pasture
 
Sherrill's Cigarettes were on the side and I think it was Bart who said he found it strange as she was a chain smoker and she took them everywhere with her. So if she was in her bedroom for example they would of been in that room. She never went anywhere without them.
 
I've been thinking about the fact that both Suzie and Stacy's cars were found parked at Delmar the next morning.

I have always questioned whether or not those two cars were actually driven there by the girls....you know, whether or not they made it to the house at all that night, even with the supposed evidence of getting ready for bed, like make-up on wash-clothes and all.

So stay with me a second. This is very telling if I'm thinking correctly.

If only Suzie and / or Stacy were the target, then the girls must have made it to Delmar, because nobody would take the cars back to Sherrill's house, and then have to abduct her too.

Sherrill must have been either the target or at least her AND Suzie....this is the popular "somebody already in the house / car in the driveway scenerio".

I find it hard to believe that no signs of struggle were evident, if the girls came home and interrupted anything already in progress.

Something else that bothers me: the purses. Am I correct in understanding Sherrill's cigarettes were found IN HER PURSE? And everybody's keys were found IN THEIR PURSES?? To me, that means either everybody just walked in the door, everybody was fixing to head out the door, or somebody staged the whole thing. Unless Sherrill had a few packs laying around, she wouldn't have left her only open pack in her purse if she were planning on being home all night. Ladies, is it common when you walk in the door to put your keys back in your purse, or do you hang them somewhere or put them on a table or counter? My wife is 50/50 whether she puts them in her purse or puts them on the kitchen island next to her purse.

Small details, but if anyone knows these things with certainty, it may be enough reason to narrow down some of the numerous theories....to this day, we don't even know for certain who the target was or why.

One more thought....was this latest documentary scripted out before or after Bartt's failed abduction recently in TN?? If the failed abduction was known at the time of the documentary, this could explain why Bartt's character was assassinated this time around. I know I certainly lost some respect for the guy....although I firmly believe he was not involved.

Everything above obviously being MOO'd from the cow pasture

I always questioned if Stacy and Suzie made it to Delmar drive or if they went somewhere else from there. That area seemed like it might have been more remote than where the other parties were. I find it odd that they took two cars back to the Levitt/Streeter house. Two red cars driving around on graduation night you are almost asking to be pulled over.
You make a good point about the purses and the keys. I could see Stacy keeping her keys with her purse but most people have a place they put their keys in their house.
 
Here was the profiler’s take on the crime. I can’t but help agree with the fact it was somebody they knew.



The Kansas City Star

July 21, 1992


Edition: MID-AMERICA

Section: MID-AMERICA

Page: B6


Acquaintance abducted 3, FBI theorizes Person was trusted by at least one of missing women, expert believes.


Author: The Associated Press

SPRINGFIELD - An FBI violent crime specialist theorizes that three missing women were abducted by someone at least one of them trusted, and the abductor probably had help from one or more others.

Authorities want to talk with people who may unwillingly have become involved in a possibly unplanned abduction, said James Wright of the bureau's National Center for the Analysis of Violent Crime.

"I think they (other people) were brought into this not knowing what was going to happen. It's quite possible that the primary person did not know what was going to happen," Wright said.

"There are people that have knowledge who don't feel good about the knowledge they have. They may not be the primary person. " Wright spoke after a call-in television show about the case that aired Sunday night on KOZK-Ozarks Public Television.

Wright has been following the case since Sherrill Levitt, 47; her daughter, Suzie Streeter, 19, and Streeter's friend, Stacy McCall, 18, disappeared June 7. Authorities think the women were abducted because many things they would have taken out of town were left at Levitt's home in Springfield.

Wright said his theory came from "the totality of information," but he avoided specifics about the number or type of people he suspects are involved.

The abduction leader probably was an acquaintance "who may have known their comings and goings," he said.

Secondary players may fear going to police because they think the primary culprit would retaliate, he said.

But anyone withholding information probably is feeling strong anxiety, he added.

"If you think you don't feel good about it now, don't think it's going to get any better. Don't think it's going to go away," Wright said.

Springfield Police Chief Terry Knowles said the department could protect those who provide information
 
As far as I know no one I’ve seen mentioned as being at Delmar that day had been there before so how could anyone say what was normal or if anything was missing? Nigel might’ve known but I’ve never heard she was there.
Taking 2 cars to the same place late at night makes no sense. What was the point if they were meeting up the next day? This was pre dna so makeup on a washcloth doesn’t prove Stacy was there.
I saw in an older thread Janelle snd Stacy went shopping the day before graduation so Stacy could easily have had clothes Janis didn’t know about.
 
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