Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #32

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I did pose it as a question, so I wasn't sure. What do you base your belief on that it was "a long time before?" Before Jennifer went missing? I've only looked at the deposition questions attached to Judge Noble's order, on p. 17. It doesn't say when, but they evidently know she did go there. Was there some other reference to it?
Weinstein asked questions like did you go there and confirm that FD can stop paying the mortgage and GF will automatically pay it from their bank? Meaning it was implied FD sent her there and that’s why he stopped paying the mortgage. Also the question about if JD died would he get to keep the house was implying lots of motive for the murder.
 
Good Evening to everyone, on this Family day.

We have been traveling and I have barely kept up with the wonderful and dedicated posts on this thread.

I made a note a few days ago about minors flying alone.

Yes, thousands and thousands of minors, have at some point in their lives, flown unaccompanied. This even includes me, many years ago. Many on this thread have also stated that they too flew as unaccompanied minors and everything went swimmingly even on connecting flights.

My husband and his brother are long time international track & field coaches and have taken thousands of youth athletes all over the world. Exceedingly often, they would put minors as young as 10, on a flight back home as Unaccompanied Minors, with Absolutely No issues.

In 2001, my husband was the only Coach/Adult with 11 youth athletes in Sacramento, CA. Two siblings were 12 and 10 and needed to fly back to the east coast in time for school to start. My husband took them to the airport to put them on the flight I had purchased just 3 weeks prior, After confirming the process for unaccompanied minors. The airline then Refused to allow these young athletes to board the flight home.

Why? Because it was a connecting flight. Just a few days before this flight, the airline made new policy based on a series of recent incidents with Lost children on connecting flights.

Yes, Many children have flown as unaccompanied minors for decades. However, more and more issues were happening and many unattended and/or lost children.

Children left on planes that were supposed to get off. Children taken off planes that were supposed to stay on. Children missing their connection, because of miscommunications between flight attendants. Children getting on the Wrong flights and Many left stranded in an airport overnight because everyone was too busy blaming everyone else.

Unaccompanied minors left on board delayed flights while everyone else were allowed to de-plane. If the children happened to be taken off, they were stuck in rooms with a few bags of chips and unable to use the facilities until an adult finally decided to come check on them.

The Most Egregious Issue? The Parents were NOT contacted. Which means that No One Realized a Child Was Missing or Misplaced. The parent was at the receiving end and their child did Not get off the plane.

As air travel became expanded, so did the aircrafts. Hundreds more being squeezed into smaller and smaller seats.

Did the airlines adjust their staffing needs to meet the demands and increased responsibilities of these flight attendants? Generally, NO.

In some instances, the airlines grew way too fast and way too soon, that hiring and staff training suffered. Any increase in cabin staff was minimal at best and many airlines choosing Profits over service.

In some instances, airlines did not have enough quality applicants needed to staff their flights and they were forced to hire staff that would Not have made the cut, just a few years prior.

Passengers with in-flight health issues, passengers causing disruption, and/or other issues have created opportunities for unaccompanied minors to get lost in the shuffle. Minors left at an unsupervised gate of their connecting flight and they have missed their flight and even placed on incorrect flights. If a layover is more than an hour, there may not be staff at the gate yet, where the minor is left to fend for themselves. Many have gone to the restroom and lost their way back to their gate.

Each airline has their own rules and regulations in regards to unaccompanied minors and unfortunately, there is not a Standard across the board.

Some airport facilities, offer Airport staff to manage the child, so that the brunt of the responsibility is not always on the Very Busy flight attendants.

My point is, the Safety of the minor child is of the Utmost Importance and Many airlines are stepping up to the plate to Ensure that each and every one of the unaccompanied minors are managed at 100% Efficiency. Even One child lost, misplaced, and or forgotten, is Unacceptable.

This however, has resulted in stricter rules being imposed by the individual airlines. Such as many airlines choosing a No connecting flights for certain age groups, regardless of the child’s maturity level. There have even been airlines that have refused boarding to a minor if the plane will be traveling through rough weather. The flight attendant’s primary concern is for All the passengers equally, and an unaccompanied minor will upset the balance of that concern or even worse, the child will not receive the needed attention they require.

Needless to say, my husband came home from Sacramento that year, with All the athletes a few days later, once everyone had competed their events. He walked off the plane and informed me that I, Would be traveling with them, going forward. It became imperative as female athletes needed to travel without their parents, in addition to the issues that may arise with sending unaccompanied minors back to their parents. Had I been in Sacramento that year, I would have been able to take the athletes to the airport early the next day to catch a non-stop flight. Especially since my husband could not leave minor children alone at the stadium to compete their events, while the only adult took athletes to the airport.

Bottom Line? I have No issue with MT daughter taking a Non Stop flight from Argentina, into JFK.

I DO take issue with the fact if MT says she is the ‘Only’ adult available to meet her daughter at a Huge International Airport, where More Than Likely, MT will have to obtain a waiver to go through security and meet her child at the Gate.

There is No reason, the people in the life of MT could not meet the child at JFK.

MamaA, PapaT, MT Sister, Attorney Bowman/Office Staff, etc.

Now, there is the issue of JFK being a layover for the child on the way to another city. This is where, I ‘might’ allow the Child to see her mother, even for a few minutes. I do not have any feeling for MT, but this child does need some sort of contact with her mother before the mother is sent away for many years. Sometimes, the Needs of the One (child), Does outweigh the needs of the many. (a reverse of a quote from 'A Tale of Two Cities' and quoted by Spock in a Star Trek movie)

This child did Not ask for any of this and I think we can All agree that she is in a very sad situation. Do we punish the daughter for the sins of the mother? She will be living without her mother for many years to come and if the child has a few minutes with her mother in an airport, I ‘might’ be okay with this, but ONLY if LE is Escorting MT.

‘Apparently, any mother, even a bad one, is better for a child than none’ —Rhett Butler in ‘Gone With The Wind’

It IS in the best interests of CT, to have LE All Over this if the issue is a layover at JFK. If Not, even LE could pick up the child. It does Not have to be MT.

It may seem that I have flipped flopped here, however, I had not taken into consideration that JFK Might be a layover for the child.

IMO.

Just 3 links of the MANY.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...32992a-874f-11e6-92c2-14b64f3d453f_story.html

Airline Leaves Unaccompanied Minor Unaccompanied

When Airlines Misplace Children - The New York Timeshttps://parenting.blogs.nytimes.com › 2009/06/23 › when-airlines-misplace...

etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc..........
 
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As for me, I have chosen to keep the last name of the psychopath con artist. Originally, I had thought I would change it. But you know what? I own what happened to me. I love my name now. It symbolizes what I have gone through and I fully embrace it. It's hard to explain all the thoughts behind my reasoning. Maybe Jennifer would have wanted her kids to have the same last name as her. JMO.
Good points. And I also still have my ex's name. Definitely good if you have boys (to share the last name). I said 'boys' because daughters often marry and get a new name.
 
As for me, I have chosen to keep the last name of the psychopath con artist. Originally, I had thought I would change it. But you know what? I own what happened to me. I love my name now. It symbolizes what I have gone through and I fully embrace it. It's hard to explain all the thoughts behind my reasoning. Maybe Jennifer would have wanted her kids to have the same last name as her. JMO.
Good points. And I also still have my ex's name. Definitely good if you have boys (to share the last name). I said 'boys' because daughters often marry and get a new name.
 
Weinstein asked questions like did you go there and confirm that FD can stop paying the mortgage and GF will automatically pay it from their bank? Meaning it was implied FD sent her there and that’s why he stopped paying the mortgage. Also the question about if JD died would he get to keep the house was implying lots of motive for the murder.
They had a scheme and a dark plan to obtain money that did not belong to them. You know, it really is easier just to work and do what you're supposed to do. More rewarding too. It is going to take bars for these people to understand the depths of their folly. JMO, JMO, JMO.
 
Good Evening to everyone, on this Family day.

We have been traveling and I have barely kept up with the wonderful and dedicated posts on this thread.

I made a note a few days ago about minors flying alone.

Yes, thousands and thousands of minors, have at some point in their lives, flown unaccompanied. This even includes me, many years ago. Many on this thread have also stated that they too flew as unaccompanied minors and everything went swimmingly even on connecting flights.

My husband and his brother are long time international track & field coaches and have taken thousands of youth athletes all over the world. Exceedingly often, they would put minors as young as 10, on a flight back home as Unaccompanied Minors, with Absolutely No issues.

In 2001, my husband was the only Coach/Adult with 11 youth athletes in Sacramento, CA. Two siblings were 12 and 10 and needed to fly back to the east coast in time for school to start. My husband took them to the airport to put them on the flight I had purchased just 3 weeks prior, After confirming the process for unaccompanied minors. The airline then Refused to allow these young athletes to board the flight home.

Why? Because it was a connecting flight. Just a few days before this flight, the airline made new policy based on a series of recent incidents with Lost children on connecting flights.

Yes, Many children have flown as unaccompanied minors for decades. However, more and more issues were happening and many unattended and/or lost children.

Children left on planes that were supposed to get off. Children taken off planes that were supposed to stay on. Children missing their connection, because of miscommunications between flight attendants. Children getting on the Wrong flights and Many left stranded in an airport overnight because everyone was too busy blaming everyone else.

Unaccompanied minors left on board delayed flights while everyone else were allowed to de-plane. If the children happened to be taken off, they were stuck in rooms with a few bags of chips and unable to use the facilities until an adult finally decided to come check on them.

The Most Egregious Issue? The Parents were NOT contacted. Which means that No One Realized a Child Was Missing or Misplaced. The parent was at the receiving end and their child did Not get off the plane.

As air travel became expanded, so did the aircrafts. Hundreds more being squeezed into smaller and smaller seats.

Did the airlines adjust their staffing needs to meet the demands and increased responsibilities of these flight attendants? Generally, NO.

In some instances, the airlines grew way too fast and way too soon, that hiring and staff training suffered. Any increase in cabin staff was minimal at best and many airlines choosing Profits over service.

In some instances, airlines did not have enough quality applicants needed to staff their flights and they were forced to hire staff that would Not have made the cut, just a few years prior.

Passengers with in-flight health issues, passengers causing disruption, and/or other issues have created opportunities for unaccompanied minors to get lost in the shuffle. Minors left at an unsupervised gate of their connecting flight and they have missed their flight and even placed on incorrect flights. If a layover is more than an hour, there may not be staff at the gate yet, where the minor is left to fend for themselves. Many have gone to the restroom and lost their way back to their gate.

Each airline has their own rules and regulations in regards to unaccompanied minors and unfortunately, there is not a Standard across the board.

Some airport facilities, offer Airport staff to manage the child, so that the brunt of the responsibility is not always on the Very Busy flight attendants.

My point is, the Safety of the minor child is of the Utmost Importance and Many airlines are stepping up to the plate to Ensure that each and every one of the unaccompanied minors are managed at 100% Efficiency. Even One child lost, misplaced, and or forgotten, is Unacceptable.

This however, has resulted in stricter rules being imposed by the individual airlines. Such as many airlines choosing a No connecting flights for certain age groups, regardless of the child’s maturity level. There have even been airlines that have refused boarding to a minor if the plane will be traveling through rough weather. The flight attendant’s primary concern is for All the passengers equally, and an unaccompanied minor will upset the balance of that concern or even worse, the child will not receive the needed attention they require.

Needless to say, my husband came home from Sacramento that year, with All the athletes a few days later, once everyone had competed their events. He walked off the plane and informed me that I, Would be traveling with them, going forward. It became imperative as female athletes needed to travel without their parents, in addition to the issues that may arise with sending unaccompanied minors back to their parents. Had I been in Sacramento that year, I would have been able to take the athletes to the airport early the next day to catch a non-stop flight. Especially since my husband could not leave minor children alone at the stadium to compete their events, while the only adult took athletes to the airport.

Bottom Line? I have No issue with MT daughter taking a Non Stop flight from Argentina, into JFK.

I DO take issue with the fact if MT says she is the ‘Only’ adult available to meet her daughter at a Huge International Airport, where More Than Likely, MT will have to obtain a waiver to go through security and meet her child at the Gate.

There is No reason, the people in the life of MT could not meet the child at JFK.

MamaA, PapaT, MT Sister, Attorney Bowman/Office Staff, etc.

Now, there is the issue of JFK being a layover for the child on the way to another city. This is where, I ‘might’ allow the Child to see her mother, even for a few minutes. I do not have any feeling for MT, but this child does need some sort of contact with her mother before the mother is sent away for many years. Sometimes, the Needs of the One (child), Does outweigh the needs of the many. (a reverse of a quote from 'A Tale of Two Cities' and quoted by Spock in a Star Trek movie)

This child did Not ask for any of this and I think we can All agree that she is in a very sad situation. Do we punish the daughter for the sins of the mother? She will be living without her mother for many years to come and if the child has a few minutes with her mother in an airport, I ‘might’ be okay with this, but ONLY if LE is Escorting MT.

‘Apparently, any mother, even a bad one, is better for a child than none’ —Rhett Butler in ‘Gone With The Wind’

It IS in the best interests of CT, to have LE All Over this if the issue is a layover at JFK. If Not, even LE could pick up the child. It does Not have to be MT.

It may seem that I have flipped flopped here, however, I had not taken into consideration that JFK Might be a layover for the child.

IMO.

Just 3 links of the MANY.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...32992a-874f-11e6-92c2-14b64f3d453f_story.html

Airline Leaves Unaccompanied Minor Unaccompanied

When Airlines Misplace Children - The New York Timeshttps://parenting.blogs.nytimes.com › 2009/06/23 › when-airlines-misplace...

etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc..........
I truly appreciate the point you are making. We also do not know the circumstances of MT's family. They (we assume) posted her bail and have helped her, but we don't know the depths of their pockets. I don't think they are extremely wealthy (at least not like the JD wealth) and they simply might not be able to be in CT at all times. We also have no clue as to how many friends MT or even FD have (and how many have stuck by them). Maybe there is no one else to go get her. And it also could just be a layover and onto another destination. I am just dismayed that people with such serious charges looming are out on bail for such a prolonged time, but I am trusting there is a reason LE is holding their cards close and making the judicial process so slow. JMO, JMO, JMO.
 
Agree 100%!

Why would any judge give favorable treatment to Michelle Troconis whom did NOT cooperate with police from day one?

Let’s ask all of the people: is that an act of an innocent woman?

Michelle Troconis accompanied her boyfriend the very evening of when the mother of 5 children and her boyfriend’s wife (yes, Michelle is a consensual side piece of a married man), anyho, to Hartford, CT to dump multiple bags of BLOODY clothing, mops, sponges, verified to contain the DNA of missing, Jennifer Dulos. Remember, this was a Friday evening before Memorial Day. I’m hoping police checked their phone records to see if it was typical for these two to travel to Hartford to dump trash.

Let’s ask all of the people: is that an act of an innocent woman?

Let’s continue to the other events that this woman participated in willingly with her boyfriend whom is married to the missing woman. Oh, yes, that’s right, before dumping the bloody bags, she was conveniently at the vacant 80 Mountain Spring property helping her boyfriend whom is married to the missing woman, Jennifer Dulos, owns and helped clean coffee (that she claimed did not smell like coffee) from the Tacoma that her boyfriend borrowed from his employee, PG. Well, I suggest LE shows the jurors blood (would be approximately 5 hours old blood and spilled coffee for all to SMELL and touch and see) into the courtroom to compare and contrast.

Let’s ask all of the people: is that an act of an innocent woman?

Moving on: oh Michelle Troconis lied to the police for months. Yes, that’s precious time and money wasted as this woman decided to tell lies to the police on various accounts.

Michelle Troconis lied to police and wrote fake, dates/times of events that never took place on the day surrounding the mom of five and her boyfriend’s WIFE went missing.

Let’s ask all of the people: is that an act of an innocent woman?

Oh, I’m not finished, Michelle Troconis purposely took the keys of PG’s Tacoma that her cheating boyfriend borrowed and drove off with them when she knew PG was there to pick up his Tacoma to take home for the weekend. Why else would he be there? From a text that her boyfriend, Fotis Dulos received, it was clear that he cane there to pick it up.

Let’s ask all of the people: is that an act of an innocent woman?

There is more. The liar, Michelle Troconis followed her boyfriend to the car wash to thoroughly wash that Tacoma that her cheating boyfriend borrowed from his employee, PG. so interesting that Michelle Troconis initially lied to the police about that incident too.

Let’s ask all of the people: is that an act of an innocent woman?

There’s still the pleading the 5th that oh so innocent Michelle Troconis plead in the civil trial. On every question,

Let’s ask all of the people: is that an act of an innocent woman?


Wow! Innocent until proven guilty. Yes, while I do appreciate our justice system, we are NOT STUPID and IGNORANT! The facts prove her to be guilty and I can’t wait for the next delivery of discovery.

In the interim, do you think Michelle Troconis deserves to pick her daughter up from the airport?

I don’t think it’s safe for any child to be in her care.

In my humble opinion, from considering the facts to date, she is an accomplice to a premeditated murder of a mother of 5, her boyfriend’s WIFE.

No, she should be denied any favors. Mooo

Moooooooooo
You've said it so very, very well. Kudos to you! Thank you for this post. I wish I could give it a thousand likes or more!
 
No, there is no sense to it. All good points.

The biggest red flags (for me) were:
  • The completely different stories from the nanny/FD about what happened between the first interview with the nanny (on the night of the run-over) and the second interview. Police should have been all over the widely differing stories.
  • The fact that the nanny said she didn't know she ran her over (yet she did twice, AND the young child in the back screamed - yet the nanny wasn't concerned, even though she couldn't see the grandmother?)
  • Neither one of them could reasonably be driving anywhere that night. The nanny didn't have a license and didn't know the car - and the grandmother was too injured to drive, on heavy medications, AND suffered from fainting spells.
  • The lights on the car probably come on automatically - and, the lights excuse wasn't mentioned the second time at all.
With all the red flags you mentioned plus more which we may not know of, just maybe, a big maybe, the accident case would be reopened. LE reads here, maybe this will be important to one of them, but then again, with the people in this case, I will not hold my breath.
 
It's possible Jennifer would want the children to have the same name as her. How about Farber for everyone? Is it possible she might eventually have wanted that? We will not likely know.

It's true that we live in a patriarchal society where it's common to use the man's last name for the wife and children. But I'd think that custom could go out the window once a man murders the mother of 5 children, after living off her family, and not providing in any way for those children.

I hope the kids are all adopted by GF and their names all changed to Farber, if they want that. Then it's the same as their grandmother, who is and has been their provider, nurturer, and caretaker.

What has FD given the kids? Heartache, misery, pain, and nothing more. He does not deserve to give them a name.

Just my thoughts.
 
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Those watermarks were made by me since some people here like to steal credits for some odd reason. Not just for things I post but also for yours. You know what what I mean. Also there was other information included in the collage. Sorry if they’re a turn off. Lol
The end goal is justice for Jennifer. This thread has a team of consistent, dedicated people. We're a team here and let's not lose sight of that. We contribute thoughts on a public thread with the intention to share and expand on those like-minded thoughts, no? A post I have may spark a dozen more thoughts from other members, and that's ultimately why I'm here. A post I read here, often sparks a thought that leads to more research that I bring back to the thread. Based on what I see here, there are many others who do the same. WS may have taken some getting used to on my part, though ultimately, I am not here for credit or to be first. I've come to realize that collectively, we are better and can get further. I'm here for justice and the more info we can get out there, the better IMO.

I personally think watermarking publicly available information takes away from why we're here in an effort to make the information competitive. While I believe it is appropriate to acknowledge the original source of the information in a post, I don't believe most are here for 'credit' or 'breaking news'. We're here to share updates, as they come in...and lately it's sparse. If you find info that others haven't seen or has not been posted, why not post it yourself here? You'll be sure to get the credit and we may just be closer to getting justice for Jennifer.
 
Farber v. Fore group
No 118.00 11/27/2019 D REQUEST TO AMEND AND AMENDMENT
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Defendants' Request for Leave to File Amended Answer (adding 2 Count Counterclaim)
In moo I hope the judge that reads this request gets a good laugh and denies every bit of it and reprimands atty Habib for wasting his time .
Plus I find it very offensive that an atty having serious charges of selling drugs near a public school has the nerve to write this. Sounds like he is desperately digging for a share of the money Fotis is determined to get no matter the cost. MOO
 
It's possible Jennifer would want the children to have the same name as her. How about Farber for everyone? Is it possible she might eventually have wanted that? We will not likely know.

It's true that we live in a patriarchal society where it's common to use the man's last name for the wife and children. But I'd think that custom could go out the window once a man murders the mother of 5 children, after living off her family, and not providing in any way for those children.

I hope the kids are all adopted by GF and their names all changed to Farber, if they want that. Then it's the same as their grandmother, who is and has been their provider, nurturer, and caretaker.

What has FD given the kids? Heartache, misery, pain, and nothing more. He does not deserve to give them a name.

Just my thoughts.
I'm with you.

As several people have mentioned here, allegedly, Jennifer went by the name Jennifer Rebecca Dulos when she voted, and possibly in her email and social media accounts. Jennifer's family, as well as the press, have stated Jennifer Farber Dulos (JFD).

I am not sure how many variations of her initials that I've personally used, nor am I interested in going back to look. I think on days when FD filed some nonsense motion, IMO, I very well could have subconsciously written JF. WHY DOES IT MATTER and how does using a variation of Jennifers initials get us closer to justice? We could say JR and that would be correct, because it's part of her name. We can say JF, which is also a part of her name that the family used. Jennifer may not have requested a name change, and we will likely never know what she planned to use going forward. Why not let people use what they want to use when they write her name?

MOO
 
Weinstein asked questions like did you go there and confirm that FD can stop paying the mortgage and GF will automatically pay it from their bank? Meaning it was implied FD sent her there and that’s why he stopped paying the mortgage. Also the question about if JD died would he get to keep the house was implying lots of motive for the murder.

Thanks for sharing your reasoning. Here’s the SA article re court hearing re when MT was granted permission to spend over 2 wks in NY (confined to one specific house) but then came back the next day and neither Colangelo nor the court knew where she was in that time period. Bowman said it was bc her GPS had a weak signal.

Jennifer Dulos case: Michelle Troconis travel issues focus of brief court hearing

“Stamford Superior Court Judge John Blawie said there should be no further issues with the device.

“I don’t think there will be any issues with GPS going forward,” he said. “She’s going to remain in the state of Connecticut.”

Was it Judge Blawie who now granted her request to go to the airport to meet her daughter? Was he perhaps impressed with her scrupulosity in returning to CT when her GPS “had a weak signal”, when she might have high-tailed it to an airport and hopped a plane for wherever?
 
Thanks for sharing your reasoning. Here’s the SA article re court hearing re when MT was granted permission to spend over 2 wks in NY (confined to one specific house) but then came back the next day and neither Colangelo nor the court knew where she was in that time period. Bowman said it was bc her GPS had a weak signal.

*Was it Judge Blawie who now granted her request to go to the airport to meet her daughter? Was he perhaps impressed with her scrupulosity in returning to CT when her GPS “had a weak signal”, when she might have high-tailed it to an airport and hopped a plane for wherever?
I think this is why
He trusts her
 
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Unaccompanied children on flights has long been..but wondering, why wouldn’t the bio dad who has the financial means to fly with his child- to be able to spend the remaining time in a long flight, AND physically hand over the daughter to MT- especially now that he must know that MT has requested permission with the courts? If I was handing my child over to the other parent with these horrendous charges and more to come, I would want to at least make eye contact with that person that would have matched my concerns with what I would have put in writing to them..
 
But when the judge says there won't be any more issues with the GPS--she's going to remain in CT? Doesn't sound like trust. Though maybe he'd have to grant her request bc the prosecutor didn't object?
I meant he trusts her to return to CT with her daughter because she returned from NY because the gps had a weak signal
i've always wondered if the gps company advised her to come back
 
I'm with you.

As several people have mentioned here, allegedly, Jennifer went by the name Jennifer Rebecca Dulos when she voted, and possibly in her email and social media accounts. Jennifer's family, as well as the press, have stated Jennifer Farber Dulos (JFD).

I am not sure how many variations of her initials that I've personally used, nor am I interested in going back to look. I think on days when FD filed some nonsense motion, IMO, I very well could have subconsciously written JF. WHY DOES IT MATTER and how does using a variation of Jennifers initials get us closer to justice? We could say JR and that would be correct, because it's part of her name. We can say JF, which is also a part of her name that the family used. Jennifer may not have requested a name change, and we will likely never know what she planned to use going forward. Why not let people use what they want to use when they write her name?

MOO
We ran into that with krystal kenney lee in Frazee thread. Some were using kk. Some kkl, some kl. They eventually just went with kk.
Maybe to make it easier when reading...
 
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