Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #118

[margarita25]

Abby & Libby
Media Timeline 11
Feb 14, 2017 - Nov 21, 2019

213 News Articles

Articles Reference Index / Compilation of Media Timelines 1-10 by @margarita25 for WS 12/5/2019

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Media Timeline
Abigail Williams & Liberty German
Delphi, Indiana


2017

FEB 14, 2017

Authorities, family continue searching for missing Carroll County teens

UPDATE: Officials: 2 bodies found in Deer Creek near Delphi

UPDATED: Foul play suspected after bodies found along Deer Creek in Delphi; vigil held

Autopsies scheduled for 2 bodies found during search for missing Carroll County teens


FEB 15, 2017

Police ask for assistance in identifying man seen walking on trail where Delphi teens went missing

UPDATED: Official on Delphi double homicide: 'There is somebody out there who did this crime'


Feb 16, 2017

Police seeking help in finding man on Delphi trail where teens went missing

Police: 'This is a double homicide investigation'

TIMELINE | Disappearance and deaths of Liberty German and Abigail Williams in Delphi

Funeral arrangements set for Delphi teens

Delphi man shows FOX 59 the crime scene where searcher made the discovery of two missing teens’ bodies


FEB 17, 2017

Retired homicide investigator offers insights into how Delphi double murder case might be solved


FEB 19, 2017

Teens' visitation draws enormous crowd

Man photographed on trail now officially a suspect in murders of Delphi teens


FEB 21, 2017

UPDATE: Police say photo of suspect in Delphi homicides came from teen’s phone; audio released of man’s voice


FEB 22, 2017

Desperate for Answers: Families of unsolved cases using psychics in hopes for clues

New details in Delphi killings to be released

Police look beyond Delphi for suspect

Bangert: A clue from a ‘hero’ in Delphi homicides
https://amp.jconline.com/amp/98254002

UPDATED: Delphi homicide victim recorded, photographed suspect on her phone


FEB 23, 2017

Audio clip released in Delphi double homicide

DNA evidence is top priority in Delphi murder investigation

FBI takes over for Delphi call center in double murder investigation

FBI launches digital billboard campaign in search for killer of Delphi teens

Carroll County sheriff discusses Delphi murder investigation, says DNA evidence ‘fast-tracked’

Investigators receive 3,900 tips in murder of Delphi teens; reward increases to $50,000


FEB 25, 2017

FBI searches Peru home regarding Delphi homicides, nothing found


FEB 26, 2017

EXCLUSIVE: State Police Superintendent: “Frustration high, professionalism even higher”


MAR 1, 2017

Delphi killings: Rumors carry hefty consequences

Donations from Pat McAfee, Jim Irsay bring Delphi reward to $200,000

Grandparents of murdered Delphi teen leave emotional note at police headquarters


MAR 02, 2017

Residents can pick up orange light bulbs to ‘light up Delphi’ as tribute to murder victims

Delphi investigators grateful for community outreach

Singing Contractors pay tribute to Delphi teens


MAR 6, 2017

Police: Delphi, Columbus deaths not related


MAR 9, 2017

Grandfather of slain Delphi teen: ‘It’s the small things that seem to hurt the most’

A family speaks: Grandfather of slain Delphi girl issues statement


MAR 13, 2017

Fresh tips flood investigators of Delphi killings

Police continue investigation of several ‘people of interest’ a month into Delphi murder investigation


MAR 14, 2017

Prosecutor says cops likely have met Delphi killer or received crucial tip due to scope of probe


MAR 16, 2017

Police corroborating alibis given in Delphi killings


MAR 17, 2017

Authorities serve search warrant in connection with Delphi murder case


MAR 18, 2017

Police search property where Delphi teens found


MAR 21, 2017

Hearing postponed for Delphi property owner


MAR 22, 2017

Delphi land owner has April 3 court date

Family member of murdered Delphi teen, Abby Williams, speaks out for first time


MAR 24, 2017

Authorities begin ‘normalization’ process in Delphi double homicide investigation


MAR 25, 2017

Abby Williams’ mom: ‘These girls were the most precious gifts we had’


APR 3, 2017

Owner of Delphi murder site admits to driving to county dump on day of teens’ killings


APR 24, 2017

Delphi Daughters: How the family is coping


APR 26, 2017

Delphi Daughters: Untold story of Abby & Libby


APR 27, 2017

WATCH: The untold story of Abby & Libby

A 360 tour of the Monon High Bridge

Families of Delphi murder victims unveil plans for honorary softball fields, fundraiser

Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10155371878129575

Concert for slain teens planned in Kokomo

Parents of murdered Delphi teens announce memorial concert fundraiser


APR 28, 2017

Delphi Daughters: Take 1 minute for justice

WATCH: The untold story of Delphi's Libby & Abby


MAY 07, 2017

Delphi reclaims trail where girls were murdered


MAY 8, 2017

Taking Back the Trail


JUL 17, 2017

Police unveil sketch of Delphi homicide suspect

Police release sketch of man accused of murdering Delphi teens Liberty German and Abigail Williams

Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10155664169649575

UPDATE: State police release drawing of suspect in Delphi killings


JUL 19, 2017

ISP: Stop 'armchair sleuthing' on Delphi murders

Sketch of Delphi teens’ suspected killer draws surge of tips

Sheriff to Facebook users: Stop posting on Delphi murders, start calling tip line


AUG 4, 2017

Tip in Delphi double homicide leads to arrest in decade-old cold case

Delphi tip line leads to dozens of unrelated arrests


AUG 11, 2017

Investigators doggedly pursue Libby and Abby's killer


AUG 13, 2017

FBI sketch spurs 6,000 tips in slayings of 2 Indiana girls


AUG 14, 2017

ISP: More audio recovered from slain Delphi teen's phone

Lead detective in Delphi murders confirms police have more audio from phone, DNA evidence

Delphi double murder unsolved, six months later

Time stands still for families of Delphi victims 6 months after murders


SEP 16, 2017

Delphi families send fliers to help track down killer


SEP 28, 2017

Police investigate Colorado link to Delphi murders

Colorado's intimidation suspect from Indiana is no stranger to crime
https://amp.jconline.com/amp/713951001


SEP 29, 2017

Delphi hopes for answers in double homicides

Person of interest in Delphi murders was living homeless in Indiana the same week girls’ bodies were found, police say


OCT 2, 2017

What we know about Delphi 'person of interest'


OCT 3, 2017

Family says sketch of Delphi suspect resembles new ‘person of interest’

Delphi detectives return; no link yet to Nations


OCT 10, 2017

Delphi's person of interest faces more charges


OCT 11, 2017

Delphi's person of interest faces 6 felonies

Wife of person of interest in Delphi murders says Daniel Nations watched news coverage


OCT 12, 2017

Nations' wife on sketch: 'Lot of similarities'


OCT 23, 2017

Wife doubts Nations involved in Delphi homicides


DEC 10, 2017

Stolen innocence left in the wake of 2017 violence


DEC 12, 2017

Dr. Phil's Abby, Libby segment moved to Wednesday


DEC 15, 2017

Tips about killings increase after 'Dr. Phil Show'


2018


JAN 6, 2018

Delphi 'person of interest' pleads guilty in CO


JAN 8, 2018

Base of operations for Delphi homicide investigation moves back to City Hall


JAN 15, 2018

Delphi murder investigation extends into TN

Tenn. sheriff clarifies Delphi killer post


JAN 16, 2018

Tennessee sheriff's office misread the flier

Investigators correct info on Delphi case


JAN 24, 2018

Warrant brings Delphi person of interest back to Indiana


FEB 8, 2018

It's been one year since the Delphi slayings.


FEB 12, 2018

One Year Later: Why the Delphi case isn't cold

Delphi homicides: Vigil set at one-year mark

Delphi homicides: A year later, 'horrible to live like this’


FEB 13, 2018

Delphi Double Homicide: Update on Abby and Libby Investigation

Exclusive: Abby's grandpa talks about losing her

Families of Abby and Libby take FOX59 through final hours of the Delphi teens

Murders of Abby Williams and Libby German in Delphi remain unsolved 1 year later, but case far from ‘cold’

Indiana police hope anniversary of Delphi murders spurs tips


FEB 14, 2018

Libby German: "The world got short changed"

Trail improvements planned and funded, 1 year after Delphi double murder

Press conference marks anniversary of Delphi girls' deaths

A year later: Family of slain Delphi teenager fights for justice


FEB 15, 2018

Libby German’s mother holds ‘Light the Night for Libby’ vigil

DELPHI: Libby's sister on life without her


APR 17, 2018

Delphi homicides: Could broader DNA database help catch teens' killer?


JUL 1, 2018

Familial DNA search might unlock Delphi killer's identity


JULY 10, 2018

Bangert: Delphi murders: Grandfather slowly gains ground on Abby & Libby softball fields


JUL 16, 2018

Police won't say if Fort Wayne's cold case suspect linked to Delphi killings


SEP 27, 2018

Delphi murders: Libby’s sister, at Ball State now, does ‘anything to keep the story alive’


OCT 12, 2018

'Angel Boxes' will honor Abby Williams' memory


2019

Feb 13, 2019

2 years later, no arrest yet in Delphi killings


JAN 20, 2019

Delphi: Officials say Internet rumors can hurt investigation


FEB 12, 2019

Delphi Murders: The investigation two years later

Libby & Abby's families still believe ‘Today is the Day’

How Abby Williams and Libby German's families want you to honor their memory


FEB 13, 2019

Delphi murders: Abby & Libby’s families brace for 2nd anniversary, pray 'today is the day'

Replay: Press conference on Delphi murders investigation

Delphi murders: Investigation update, Abby and Libby memorial planned on 2nd anniversary

Community prayer service held two years after unsolved Delphi murders

Here's how you can honor Libby & Abby

Delphi victim's sister hopes Twitter will help find murderer

DELPHI TIMELINE: The search for Libby & Abby's killer

How to save valuable time if your child is missing

Answers remain elusive 2 years after murders of Abby Williams and Libby German in Delphi

Investigation ongoing 2 years after Abby Williams, Libby German killed in Delphi

Anna Williams discusses loss of daughter on Delphi 2-year anniversary

Delphi community trying to heal 2 years after murders of Abby Williams and Libby German


FEB 14, 2019

Vigil honors Libby German and Abby Williams 2 years after Delphi murders

Delphi community remains hopeful for arrest in teen's murders

Delphi investigator: We wont leave any stone unturned


FEB 20, 2019

Hundreds of tips called in after 2-year Delphi presser


MAR 6, 2019

Anna Williams’ birthday wish is to raise funds for Abby and Libby Memorial Park in Delphi


MAR 29, 2019

Construction slow on memorial park for slain Delphi teens

Delphi murders: Dirt moves on Abby & Libby Park, their families’ hands-on, $1M dream


APR 19, 2019

Police holding press conference in Delphi case

Police take new direction in Delphi murder investigation

‘Significant news’ to be announced in Delphi murders as investigation moves in ‘new direction’

Mother of murdered Delphi teen ‘cautiously hopeful’ ahead of Monday’s news conference


APR 22, 2019

New information in Delphi murder case

'Only a coward would do such a thing': Police release new info in Delphi murders

Authorities continue to explore Delphi leads

‘We also believe this person is from Delphi’: Police release new sketch, additional information in Delphi murder investigation

Facebook:
FOX59 News

Former FBI, IMPD investigators explain how new sketch in Delphi murders could help solve case

ISP on Delphi killer: 'We believe you're hiding in plain sight'

Delphi murders: Is Abby and Libby’s killer one of Delphi’s own? ISP says, yes

Delphi murders update: ISP shares new sketch, video, audio

Delphi murders: A timeline of the search for Abby and Libby's killer

Police to Delphi killer: 'We're coming for you'

ISP says new audio, video and sketch shows Delphi killer

Timeline: Investigation into the Delphi murders

Twitter/ Delphi murders: What we know about the slayings of Abby and Libby

Delphi murders update 2019: State Police to unveil 'new direction' aimed at catching the killer

Delphi murders: New sketch of killer, video from Libby's phone released

Delphi murders 2019: Watch new video of suspect released by police

Delphi murders: What's still missing 2 years after the slayings of Abby and Libby

State Police release new audio, sketch related to 2017 Delphi murders


APR 23, 2019

Former police chief weighs in on new Delphi sketch

Crime Stoppers tip expert discusses what to look for when analyzing Delphi sketch, audio

Police sort through more than 1,000 tips after releasing new information in Delphi murders

Newly released sketch of Delphi murder suspect was drawn in 2017, source says

Delphi community could be experiencing psychological impacts: ‘Grief is multi-dimensional’

New evidence in Delphi investigation leads to hundreds of new tips

New evidence in Delphi murders renews hope, fears

Police release new evidence in Delphi murders

Delphi murders: Investigators have had newly released suspect sketch for 2 years


APR 24, 2019

ISP: First Delphi sketch is not POI in murders

Delphi murders: New suspect sketch not same man as in old sketch, ISP clarifies

Review all of the evidence in the Delphi murders case that's been publicly released

Two sketches released in Delphi murders are not of the same man, Indiana State Police say

Why 'The Shack' 2017 film was mentioned in reference to unsolved Delphi murders

Indiana State Police clarify why they released new sketch in Delphi investigation


APR 29, 2019

Libby German’s sister forms friendship with sister of Golden State Killer victim

ISP: Nearly 2K tips in week since new Delphi sketch released

Sister of Delphi murder victim turns to Twitter to help find killer


APR 30, 2019

Sheriff: STOP comparing people online with Delphi sketch


MAY 1, 2019

Delphi murders: Sheriff pleads, stop posting side-by-side photos of suspects and new sketch


MAY 3, 2019

$1.2M to restore Monon High Bridge trail, scene in Delphi teens’ murder


MAY 06, 2019

Delphi: Over 42K tips received since Libby & Abby's death

Police have received more than 42,000 tips in investigation into murders of Delphi teens

Delphi murders: More than 2,700 new tips in past two weeks after sketch released


MAY 13, 2019

More than 3,000 tips since new sketch, footage in Delphi case

Delphi: Over 3k tips received since new sketch released


MAY 15, 2019

ISP: We're 'one tip away' from solving Delphi murders


JUN 17, 2019

Delphi murders: Indiana starts crowdfunding effort for Abby & Libby Memorial Park


JUN 19, 2019

Fundraising underway for Libby & Abby memorial park


JUN 20, 2019

Family of Delphi murder victims speak out for first time since release of new evidence


JUN 25, 2019

Libby & Abby's families need to raise $50K for memorial park


JUL 10, 2019

Sister of Delphi murder victim debunks family, case rumors

'Rumors suck and they hurt people': Sister of Delphi murder victim addresses internet speculation

Sister of Delphi murder victim takes to YouTube to dispel rumors, defend family


JUL 15, 2019

Delphi families raise $50,000 for legacy park


JUL 16, 2019

Fundraising goal met for memorial park honoring Delphi teens


JUL 17, 2019

Funds raised to build park in memory of slain girls


JUL 20, 2019

Police want to know if Etter is tied to Delphi killings


JUL 22, 2019

Evidence from man who killed himself in standoff shared with Delphi investigators


AUG 11, 2019

Golf tournament held to raise money for Abby and Libby park


OCT 16, 2019

Libby German's grandmother speaks about cancer fight for first time since Delphi murders


OCT 24, 2019

6 months after new sketch released on Delphi murder suspect


NOV 11, 2019

'Abby's Angels' need your help to fill boxes for kids in need


NOV 19, 2019

Indiana park honoring 2 slain teens gets donated light poles

Indiana park honoring 2 slain teens gets donated light poles

Purdue intramural lights headed to park memorializing Abby and Libby near Delphi

 

[Tiger Stripes]

Hello all,

I’ve created a ‘flow-chart’ (mentally) about some ideas of how LE can perhaps glean more information for this case provided they haven’t thought of this already. I will spare you most of the primitive beginnings of my thought process for brevity’s sake.

SBM...

Then it hit me. Cable Technicians. I know most or maybe ALL cable providers require the customer to be home or at least present to provide these technicians access by way of formal policy (that old line they give you when you need service of “okay we can come between this time and this time Tuesday” that many of us I’m sure have heard before...then we have to work something out so we are home/in office/have a trusted person provide access because you don’t give your key to these workers).


Now I’m not sure how prolific having cable or high speed internet access is in Delphi or even the surrounding Counties, but if some type of workforce report could be obtained about the employees of local cable companies with regard to those technicians that enter the home or office setting, and that group were asked to review the information available from LE for this case, it may ring a bell and lead to some great tips


I spoke with a close friend who previously was a Cable Tech and I was astonished at how observant he was. He could remember and identify locals by voice if they were in the same grocery store, without even having to see them. He told me stories of families arguing and fighting while he was doing his job. Stories of homes and offices that were disheveled. He could tell when someone was ‘off’ and strange. But most of all, he told me he had basically been in every house in his huge neighborhood and even when nothing stuck out to him, he could still remember many voices and names associated with these homes.


He explained by saying the job becomes so second-nature that you can almost do it with your eyes closed. After a while, you become a little bored and you just listen. You’re not going in there blasting a portable stereo since people are present and you likely have a partner, so headphones or earbuds tend to interfere with the work flow and so you stay entertained by listening to the customers.
All MOO

Anyone else have thoughts on this or other ideas? Feel free to correct me on any of this or to chime in.

So much for brevity!

@MonstrSquad, great, thoughtful insights you've shared here! Sometimes the "obvious" is *not* all THAT "obvious" -- especially to individuals very close to a situation (i. e., in this case, LE themselves may have never thought of considering cable techs, or vendors who must gain access to local residents' houses *while* the residents are inside their house). As you have suggested, a cable tech could be exceptional "eyes and ears" into places that LE might never even *think* of entering...

This little "tidbit" just *may* be a part of the "missing puzzle piece" to bring the killer to justice. May that justice come *soon*!

 

[soylattesandsleuthing]

I've often wondered about the warning LE gave right away as well. It's not the "normal" type of response that we typically hear. Come to think of it, nothing with this case is normal.
MOO

Normally I would think of it as just a generic “keep your eyes on your kids” statement. But seeing as it was also said LE believed there was no threat to the community, I’m not so sure.

 

[BNA]

IMO this person is an outcast and a weirdo, someone who can't make it with girls. he could be a guy that is sort of subversive and a nerd of some kind, like listening on police radios and following railway chatter etc on a shortwave radio .



mOO

So the day after they were murdered the police knew that “young locals” were responsible yet in 34 months not one of them has talked? Very, very, unlikely.

I had a case ten years ago where a 9th grade boy was found murdered in a creek. Within three days the 14 year old girl friend of one of the (four) defendants came forward and told what she knew. When teenagers are involved the case will almost solve itself.

That makes sense and I agree. This is too serious of a crime for a teenager not to come forward.

What's your opinion regarding the warning LE gave after the bodies were found and identified, to make sure you know what your kids are into?

Think HS cliques.....well contained cliques. Cliques can have codes they abide by, and secrets that bind them. And, parents who are quite happy that their kid qualifies for such a clique. That's what I think we have here. I think the second sketch of an All American Boy supports my theory.

 

[BigTexas]

I keep wondering if the girls saw BG pleasuring himself in the woods and this embarrassed him? They laughed and it angered him into a rage so he killed them. MOO

 

[Boxer]

Normally I would think of it as just a generic “keep your eyes on your kids” statement. But seeing as it was also said LE believed there was no threat to the community, I’m not so sure.

MOO They were small town sheriffs saying things without a media person, MOO it always seems messy when that happens.

 

[margarita25]

Media Timeline 12
Abby & Libby
Articles & Videos by Inside Edition

Abigail Williams & Liberty German
Delphi, Indiana
Feb 22, 2017 - July 23, 2019


2017

Feb 22, 2017

Video:
Did Murdered Indiana Teens Capture the Voice of Their Killer?


Feb 23, 2017
Video:
Audio Of Suspected Killer In Indiana Teens' Murder Has Triggered A Thousand Tips

Citizen Sleuths Spring Into Action in Indiana Murder Mystery as Reward Reaches $50G


March 8, 2017

Has Indiana Killer Struck Before? Eerie Similarities Emerge With 2012 Case of 2 Slain Girls


March 17, 2017

Break in the Case? Cops Searching Property Where Bodies of Indiana Hikers Were Found


March 18, 2017

Facebook:
Inside Edition


July 17, 2017

Police Release Sketch of Suspect, 5 Months After Murder of Indiana Teens


July 18, 2017

Families of Slain Indiana Teen Hikers Reveal Their Anguish: 'It's Like I Had Open-Heart Surgery'


2018


Feb 13, 2018

Answers Remain Elusive as Community Marks One Year Since Slaying of Indiana Teens


July 19, 2018

Is April Tinsley's Accused Killer Linked to 2017 Murder of Indiana Hikers?


2019

Jan 20, 2019

Man's Mugshot Draws Comparisons to Sketch of Indiana Teens' Suspected Killer


Jan 21, 2019

Video / Cops May Have Break in Case of Slain Indiana Teenagers

Possible Break in Case of Indiana Teenagers Killed 2 Years Ago

Grandparents of Murdered Delphi Teen Say Having a Suspect 'Would Allow Us to Move On'


Feb 14, 2019

The Delphi Murders: Town and Families Mark 2 Years Since Abby Williams and Libby German Were Killed


April 22, 2019

Killer of Indiana Teens Might Be in Plain Sight

Police Release New Audio and Video of Suspect in Murders of 2 Indiana Teens

Are Police Closing In on a Suspect in the Delphi Murders? Today on Inside Edition


April 23, 2019

Video / Is the Indiana Teens’ Killer Among Small Town Residents?

Some Delphi Locals Frightened That 'Down the Hill' Killer Could Be Hiding in Plain Sight

Neighbors in Delphi, Indiana, Hope Teens' Killer Comes Forward


May 15, 2019

Video

Who Killed Abby and Libby? 'Mindhunter' John Douglas Offers Insight Into Delphi Murders

Criminal Profiler Examines Possible Clues in Indiana Teens’ Murders

Did Delphi Killer Know Teens Abby and Libby? Today on Inside Edition


July 11, 2019

Libby German's Sister Debunks Rumors About Delphi Murders in YouTube Video

Sister of Delphi Victim Says Family Is Cooperating with Police Despite Rumors


July 22, 2019

The Delphi Murders: Everything We Know About Case of Abby Williams and Libby German

Man Who Killed Himself in Police Standoff Being Looked at for Delphi Murders

Is Rape Suspect Who Killed Himself Connected to Delphi Murders?


July 23, 2019

Do Cops Finally Know Who Killed Delphi's Abby and Libby? Today on Inside Edition

Young Neighbor of Possible Suspect in Delphi Murders Says He Creeped Her Out

 

[sunshineray]

What was the warning? I'm sure I saw it, but I don't remember it.

It just seemed odd to me that after the obligatory and expected " know where your children are and what they're doing" (which the girl's adults did) ISP Riley chose to add the BBM below.

Abby and Libby were dropped off around 1:45 to hike and take pictures and were allowed approximately an hour and a half before Libby's dad was to pick them up, not a lot of alone time at all for young teens.

Their parents/ guardians knew where they were and what they were there for. Why the "if nothing else, know what's going on in their lives"? Why even hint that the girls may have been mixed up in anything that parents need to be alert for, that they didn't know about? They were out for a walk.

"Sgt. Kim Riley said parents should keep a close eye on their children. "I think people need to be cautious and careful," Riley said. "Parents should make sure they know where their children are and what their children are doing, and if nothing else, know what's going on in their lives. That's the most important thing I can say at this point in time."

Police ask for assistance in identifying man seen walking on trail where Delphi teens went missing

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Re: “So much for brevity!”, aint’ no such thing here, I’m afraid. We’re on Thread 118 and going on 3 years. (I actually reached the limit of 45,000 characters in Media Timeline 7 yesterday, 118 articles in that one post I believe... Btw, new Timelines 8 and 9 in progress, sources not included in Timelines 1-7).

I’m laying the foundation for our BG Arrest party so we’ll have all our quotes and references ready for that big day.

Start thinking about what dishes you guys are going to bring. I’m bringing the booze.

bbm
I will bring a garland of many different flags ....

 

[stattlich1]

I worked in a rural high school for 20 years, including grades 7 through 12, and 5 years prior to that in a youth treatment facility.

I will attest to knowing for fact that teenagers can keep a secret, including a secret regarding the most grievous of crimes, as I have witnessed the very thing, first hand, on numerous occasions.

Is the case that local teen(s) could be involved here plausible? Indeed it is. Is it fact that they are? No it is not. I suspect only LE would know at this juncture.

I know for fact that gang initiation, not funny, blow it off, small time stuff, but real, fear for your life, gang initiation and activity exist in small town America within the teenage population, including local school districts.

(moo) As for the comment bolded a couple posts above, I have long suspected A&L, one, the other, or both, were involved in or privy to some type of information that led to this murder. (moo)

carry on.

 

[stattlich1]

To add to my above statement, just to drive home a point.

I would at times counsel certain adults, and myself included, NOT to press a particular teenager for information relative to a matter, knowing that the child's welfare would be placed in jeopardy should he/she reveal the very information we were seeking.

Remember, snitches get stitches, and in the world of some teens, this is a very real and frightening possibility.

I post here, often times, to do my little part, to keep this thread alive

carry on.

 

[Thelastleg]

It just seemed odd to me that after the obligatory and expected " know where your children are and what they're doing" (which the girl's adults did) ISP Riley chose to add the BBM below.

Abby and Libby were dropped off around 1:45 to hike and take pictures and were allowed approximately an hour and a half before Libby's dad was to pick them up, not a lot of alone time at all for young teens.

Their parents/ guardians knew where they were and what they were there for. Why the "if nothing else, know what's going on in their lives"? Why even hint that the girls may have been mixed up in anything that parents need to be alert for, that they didn't know about? They were out for a walk.

"Sgt. Kim Riley said parents should keep a close eye on their children. "I think people need to be cautious and careful," Riley said. "Parents should make sure they know where their children are and what their children are doing, and if nothing else, know what's going on in their lives. That's the most important thing I can say at this point in time."

Police ask for assistance in identifying man seen walking on trail where Delphi teens went missing

Perhaps something was discovered by LE that the girls family were not aware of and they didn't want to disclose it as it could be crucial in convicting the killer. But when/if this ever gets to trial LE will not be accused of not issuing advice to other parents. This seems to be a vague warning to me. JMO

 

[JudgeJudi]

So the day after they were murdered the police knew that “young locals” were responsible yet in 34 months not one of them has talked? Very, very, unlikely.

I had a case ten years ago where a 9th grade boy was found murdered in a creek. Within three days the 14 year old girl friend of one of the (four) defendants came forward and told what she knew. When teenagers are involved the case will almost solve itself.

This is not in response to the above post but goes all the way back to Thread 113 #640 where you asked:

"What department has the lead in this case (in charge)? What other departments are assisting. By “assisting” I mean detectives who do nothing else but work on the case.

How many detectives are on the task force and where is the command post?”

Indiana State Police (Supt. Doug Carter) is probably in charge. Other departments: Delphi Police Department (Chief Steve Mullin) and Carroll County Sheriff’s Department (Sheriff Tobe Leazenby). The FBI was involved from the start but now they may only be dealing with tips relating to persons outside Carroll County.

As at June 25, 2017 they were down to 11 investigators.

My suspicion is that this case is on the brink of being marked “Suspended pending further information”.

I'm hoping I get lucky this time around because your opinion would be much appreciated re what stage you think things are at now. Do you believe it has now gone cold?

"A Washington Post examination of 8,000 homicide arrests across 25 major U.S. cities since 2007 found that in half of the cases, an arrest was made in 10 days or fewer.

The analysis underscores what police leaders and homicide experts have said about the passage of time working against detectives. But it also dispels the notion of a “48-hour rule” that most cases, if solved, are wrapped up in two days. Only 30 percent of the cases led to an arrest within that time frame, the analysis found. Two-thirds of arrests were made within one month. For cases that remained unsolved after one year, 5 percent ultimately led to an arrest.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/inve...ff6aa2-fe93-11e8-ad40-cdfd0e0dd65a_story.html

 

[Ozoner]

For cases that remained unsolved after one year, 5 percent ultimately led to an arrest.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/inve...ff6aa2-fe93-11e8-ad40-cdfd0e0dd65a_story.html

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In other words, there's a 95% chance that this case will never be solved, judging by statistics alone. We all got our hopes up because of the video and audio of the perp.

 

[LadyL]

has something new happened?

 

[Skully]

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In other words, there's a 95% chance that this case will never be solved, judging by statistics alone. We all got our hopes up because of the video and audio of the perp.

I agree that for most cases that go unsolved for years, they have a low percentage rate of being solved. But every killer leaves something behind at a crime scene and this guy, well they have a video of him and a voice recording. Most likely a lot more. I think he has a history of this, no way this is his first killing. He was brazen doing what he did in broad daylight, two victims and not getting rid of the phone. He made a mistake and he will get caught. He won't stop, he thinks he got away with it, and his ego and urges will get him caught. He also IMO told someone about this, maybe not in detail, but he bragged to someone. I also think there may be another person involved, but too scared to tell. So for most cases, yes, low percentage to solve, but his case, it will come. One day one of his past "kills" will lead LE to this crime or his future "crime" will lead them back to Delphi and Abigail and Liberty.
I also think his "accent" is from Pittsburgh PA, at least raised there.

 

[LovelyB]

I probably chose my words poorly when I spoke about posters with tons of information- then nothing. You are right many of us don’t post for a while- life gets in the way or we just have nothing to add. I can certainly identify with both of those scenarios. I did not intend to raise suspicions on those posters- it was a random thought I should have kept to myself. My apologies.

No worries at all... it does seem, from subsequent replies, that there were some posts that set off a hinky meter or two. I'll have to read some past threads to see which one(s).

 

[Falcon500]

This is not in response to the above post but goes all the way back to Thread 113 #640 where you asked:

"What department has the lead in this case (in charge)? What other departments are assisting. By “assisting” I mean detectives who do nothing else but work on the case.

How many detectives are on the task force and where is the command post?”

Indiana State Police (Supt. Doug Carter) is probably in charge. Other departments: Delphi Police Department (Chief Steve Mullin) and Carroll County Sheriff’s Department (Sheriff Tobe Leazenby). The FBI was involved from the start but now they may only be dealing with tips relating to persons outside Carroll County.

As at June 25, 2017 they were down to 11 investigators.

My suspicion is that this case is on the brink of being marked “Suspended pending further information”.

I'm hoping I get lucky this time around because your opinion would be much appreciated re what stage you think things are at now. Do you believe it has now gone cold?

"A Washington Post examination of 8,000 homicide arrests across 25 major U.S. cities since 2007 found that in half of the cases, an arrest was made in 10 days or fewer.

The analysis underscores what police leaders and homicide experts have said about the passage of time working against detectives. But it also dispels the notion of a “48-hour rule” that most cases, if solved, are wrapped up in two days. Only 30 percent of the cases led to an arrest within that time frame, the analysis found. Two-thirds of arrests were made within one month. For cases that remained unsolved after one year, 5 percent ultimately led to an arrest.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/inve...ff6aa2-fe93-11e8-ad40-cdfd0e0dd65a_story.html

Carter may appear to be in charge but he is the superintendent of the state police and he has a large police department to run. I assure you that he and the others mentioned not involved in the day by day investigation of the case.

Since no one knows for sure I can surmise that the Indiana State Police is the lead agency with the county and city police also on the task force.

By no means is the case “cold”. I know of someone that they were looking at during the past week.

How will this end up? It’s anyone’s guess but it will be solved.

 

[SeattleStew]

I know of someone that they were looking at during the past week

What? Wow. A new tip, or someone who has been on the radar?

 

[sunsetbeach]

3) You're taking Leazenby out of context. He didn't say that he personally recognized the voice. He made those comments as a way of showing what people who think they recognize the voice should be saying to themselves. They should be asking themselves, "Where do I know that voice from," etc.

I respectfully disagree, he is saying HE recognizes the voice as do several other people.

His exacts words in the HLN interview with Hendricks are as follows:


“I guess the investigator part of me started to kick in and I’m thinking, like several other people, I know that voice. Who is that? Who is that? And I’m still doing that, thinking who who is this person. I’ve heard that voice somewhere but I to this day I can’t put a name with that voice”


He’s talking about himself not what other people should be asking themselves.