FL - Megan Todt 42, Alek 13, Tyler 11, Zoe 4, & dog Breezy, Celebration, 6 Jan 2020 *ARREST*

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Due to the location of the murder home and article's attaching Disney's name as some MSM are currently doing, and his father's past.

Reporters are circling and this is fast becoming national news.

Just a link for this once happy neighborhood.
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Florida has had some awful cases of these men murdering wife, ex wife and most heart wrenching evil- killing of children.

This is the first one that included the family pet.
Really Benadryl at the time the 40+ calvery arrived?
In MOO all premediated too!!!
 
Very sad. Rest in peace Megan, Tyler, Alek and Zoe. Like everyone else, I'd really hoped for a better outcome to this missing persons case.

And, like many others, this reminds me of another family annihilator case --- Christian Longo. John List was before my time and seemed like a one-off when I read about him long after the fact. Longo was the first such case I'd ever followed real-time. It was mind boggling to me.

Longo was living above his means, came across as a doting husband and father, had committed financial crimes that were catching up to him, and had moved his family around. Very similar to Tony Todt's situation in those respects (though Longo was not working as a licensed or career professional).

Longo murdered his wife and three children, same as Todt has done. But whereas Todt stuck around..........Longo stuffed the bodies of his family in suitcases, dumped them in a body of water, assumed a new identity, and then left the country to live a party life.

Why didn't Todt hit the road? Did he think he could convincingly peddle a scenario whereby he was a (surviving) victim, like Watts initially tried to do? Did he think he could commit a terrible crime against his family and still go on to build a new life, like his dad? Did he still want to be the head of his family, even though they were dead? Was he too cowardly to kill himself? Too drugged up to function? Lacked the means to make a move? Obsessed with a local woman? I hope we find out soon.

Anxious to hear the details of his confession (and really hope it doesn't include the predictable, self-serving, blame the murdered wife crap).

Excellent questions.
 
I'm a teacher, and I live about 20 miles from Celebration. I pay $2,200 a month. It's a lot for us. But we get by. I can't imagine that a guy who owns his own physical therapy business would struggle to pay $4,000 in rent. But I know there's more to his finances. And that's exactly what I'm interested in.

Why did he need all of these loans? What was he doing with his money? I am guessing that he had been living a double life. First, he moved his family away from Connecticut despite continuing to run, apparently, multiple clinics there. That seems to suggest a need to put some distance between two lives.

I suspect that he was siphoning cash out of his business and personal finances to fund living expenses for a girlfriend in Connecticut.

Another possibility is that he was an addicted gambler. It said that he took trips. I wonder if he was going to casinos. Gamblers have been known to dig themselves deeper holes by trying to win themselves out of debt.

It's painful to know that a family was hurting so close by. Obviously, I would have sacrificed all of our Christmas spending to help out a family in crisis. In fact, I've talked in the past about how we don't really need anything and should spend our money to help people who are more needy. I almost did it this year, but I thought my kids would protest. It turns out that I didn't spend much on them but got some things they like, and they were very happy. So I think I'm going to give it a shot next year. I just need to find a way to identify a family in need.

It's sad that so many people are secretive about their financial problems. Everyone deals with something. One bright spot in this whole thing is when I read that the sheriff said that there's help out there for people who are struggling with life. That message can't be sent loud enough.

I love you. That is all.
 
Just so unbelievably sick of stories like this!! I am from the area and Celebration is not perfect by any means...
Am so angry about this!

It is so interesting, to pass those fancy houses, and the impression is that the people who live in such a place, have everything. They must be happy, and live perfect, amazing lives.

I guess not. And he killed the dog? Why didn't he finish the job, and commit suicide as well? Another family annihilator.
 
I'm a teacher, and I live about 20 miles from Celebration. I pay $2,200 a month. It's a lot for us. But we get by. I can't imagine that a guy who owns his own physical therapy business would struggle to pay $4,000 in rent. But I know there's more to his finances. And that's exactly what I'm interested in.

Why did he need all of these loans? What was he doing with his money? I am guessing that he had been living a double life. First, he moved his family away from Connecticut despite continuing to run, apparently, multiple clinics there. That seems to suggest a need to put some distance between two lives.

I suspect that he was siphoning cash out of his business and personal finances to fund living expenses for a girlfriend in Connecticut.

Another possibility is that he was an addicted gambler. It said that he took trips. I wonder if he was going to casinos. Gamblers have been known to dig themselves deeper holes by trying to win themselves out of debt.

It's painful to know that a family was hurting so close by. Obviously, I would have sacrificed all of our Christmas spending to help out a family in crisis. In fact, I've talked in the past about how we don't really need anything and should spend our money to help people who are more needy. I almost did it this year, but I thought my kids would protest. It turns out that I didn't spend much on them but got some things they like, and they were very happy. So I think I'm going to give it a shot next year. I just need to find a way to identify a family in need.

It's sad that so many people are secretive about their financial problems. Everyone deals with something. One bright spot in this whole thing is when I read that the sheriff said that there's help out there for people who are struggling with life. That message can't be sent loud enough.

How wonderful that you're thinking along these lines. If only more would.
A good way to find a family in need is to contact those who work with the homeless. Many hardworking families miss a paycheck or two and end up living in their cars with children. Help from a few people like us gets them back on their feet.
 
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Anthony Todt is seen with law enforcement officials on Wednesday, Jan. 15, 2020 in Florida.Photo: Contributed Photo

Family annihilators: The psychology behind familicide
Jan. 15, 2020

“Experts in criminal behavior say so-called “family annihilators,” are often trying to spare their families from an indignity or tragedy, either real or imagined.

It’s a title that would describe Anthony Todt if he’s convicted of the crimes for which he’s been charged. Police in Florida say the Connecticut physical therapist confessed to killing his wife, three children and the family dog.”

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Police: CT man charged in killing of wife, 3 kids, family dog

“Police in Osceola County, Fla. confirmed that 42-year-old Megan Todt, 13-year-old Alek Todt, 11-year-old Tyler Todt and 4-year-old Zoe Todt were killed sometime in late December 2019. Anthony Todt confessed to the killings, police said, who did not offer a motive.”
 
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On the money subject...many years ago I lived near Colchester in Norwich for about a year. There are two VERY large casinos in that area; Mohegan Sun and Foxwoods. It is possible that he was gambling when he was home. We still don't know exactly where he stayed when he traveled back to the area (I've heard some rumors, but nothing in MSM yet).

JMO, I think it's possible. A secret gambling problem might explain a lot, actually. The need for the loans, the fraud and perhaps keeping his wife in the dark by having her live in Florida with the kids as he flew back and forth.
 
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Anthony Todt is seen with law enforcement officials on Wednesday, Jan. 15, 2020 in Florida.Photo: Contributed Photo

Family annihilators: The psychology behind familicide
Jan. 15, 2020

“Experts in criminal behavior say so-called “family annihilators,” are often trying to spare their families from an indignity or tragedy, either real or imagined.

It’s a title that would describe Anthony Todt if he’s convicted of the crimes for which he’s been charged. Police in Florida say the Connecticut dphysical therapist confessed to killing his wife, three children and the family dog.”

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Police: CT man charged in killing of wife, 3 kids, family dog

I think what this article states is true for some family annihilators, but I'm not sure it's going to end up being entirely accurate for this particular family annihilator. I say this because of the fraud and because he did not commit suicide. I could be wrong and am anxious for more details.

JMO.
 
I haven't yet read all the posts but chiming in. Celebration holds memories for me. Back in the late 1990's when Disney was still involved my husband and I looked at Celebration when we were thinking of bailing out of Miami. The prices were certainly lower than what we were living in. At the time Disney was still involved and at face value Celebration was interesting and somewhat alluring. We looked at many model homes and lots.

Initially it seemed pretty cool but upon closer inspection we saw that the general construction was not exceptional and once we learned of the many rules we started backing away.

But aside from personal observations I find it interesting that the PT operations were not big money makers. I guess I'm basing it off of Physical Therapy businesses in Miami which made lots of money and no need to defraud Medicare, Medicaid or any insurance company for that matter, especially if they were associated with local personal injury law firms.

Like I said I'm not yet up to speed so I don't know why exactly the finances went bust. But beyond that I agree with others here that Tony Todt did not have to annihilate his family due to his financial problems; IMO if he had simply worked hard to build his business legitimately that he would have found success, especially in the state of Florida.

To me anyway it does beg the question of whether his poor family was destined to be killed no matter what the circumstances.

Now I'm going back to catch up and read more from y'all who have better insight right now. All Moo.
 
I’m “sitting this one out”, but bringing over some old notes...
Sadly I/we have endless reference here on this subject.

“Family Annihilators”: Understanding What Drives Fathers to Kill | TIME.com

“The picture that emerged shows that men who kill their families were most likely to commit their crimes on Sundays and in August, times when children are typically out of school. The most common method was stabbing; the second was carbon monoxide poisoning. More than half of the men were in their 30s and more than 80% committed or tried to commit suicide after killing their children. While previous research found that “annihilators” are often characterized by failure, most of the men in the current sample were employed — and had jobs ranging from surgeon to librarian to taxi driver.“

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10 Notorious Cases of Familicide - Oddee

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Why Ordinary People Murder Their Families

“Known as "family annihilators", these people, most always men, have a profound need for control that drives them to destroy their family when they can no longer provide for them financially or when the family has been divided by divorce. (With men who commit murder-suicides there tends to be a catalyst such as a financial or personal defeat that they view as catastrophic, while women who kill loved ones are more likely to have a history of mental-health conditions like postpartum psychosis, as in the case of Andrea Yates, the Texas mother who drowned her five young children in 2001.)“

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Characteristics of family killers revealed by first taxonomy study

“Family annihilators have received little attention as a separate category of killer," said Professor David Wilson, one of the paper's three authors, and Director of the Centre of Applied Criminology at Birmingham City University. "Often they are treated like spree or serial murderers, a view which presupposes traits, such as the idea that the murderer 'snaps', or that after killing their partner or children the killer may force a stand-off with the police."“

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“Over half of these men, 55%, were in their thirties; 10% were in their twenties and the oldest was discovered to be 59.

August was found to be the most common month for the killing to take place, accounting for 20% of cases. Just under half of all murders were committed over weekends, especially on a Sunday.“

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“81% of the men attempted suicide after the act, which refutes the traditional idea that family annihilators may force the police to shoot them, as is common with spree murderers. There were no recorded cases of stand-offs with the law.”
 
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Anthony Todt is seen with law enforcement officials on Wednesday, Jan. 15, 2020 in Florida.Photo: Contributed Photo

Family annihilators: The psychology behind familicide
Jan. 15, 2020

“Experts in criminal behavior say so-called “family annihilators,” are often trying to spare their families from an indignity or tragedy, either real or imagined.

It’s a title that would describe Anthony Todt if he’s convicted of the crimes for which he’s been charged. Police in Florida say the Connecticut physical therapist confessed to killing his wife, three children and the family dog.”

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Police: CT man charged in killing of wife, 3 kids, family dog

“Police in Osceola County, Fla. confirmed that 42-year-old Megan Todt, 13-year-old Alek Todt, 11-year-old Tyler Todt and 4-year-old Zoe Todt were killed sometime in late December 2019. Anthony Todt confessed to the killings, police said, who did not offer a motive.”


That quote is a very applicable one it seems, IMO. Also - those sweet innocent children are already really hard for me to imagine/grasp/understand - but seeing the ages, that wrecked me. My own four are 13 & 11 year old boys, and 8 & 5 year old girls. Heart-wrenching.
 
He used the fraudulently obtained money to make payments on the more than 20 short-term, high-interest loans he took from a slew of lenders, the federal affidavit says.

Todt admitted the fraud, the affidavit says.

“Todt stated that he kept having to bill for services that were not rendered to keep pace with the personal loans that he took out. When asked if he was living above his means, Todt replied, ‘That’s the best way to put it.’ When the agents asked Todt if his wife, Megan, knew about his fraudulent billing practices, Todt responded, ‘No, only me.’ Todt then asked the agents how long the investigative process would last and stated that he wanted to plead guilty,” Anderson wrote.

Todt’s business was also heavily in debt. Over the course of late 2018 and early 2019, Todt was the subject of three civil judgments involving three creditors totaling more than $500,000.

Anthony Todt was a man under pressure – from creditors, landlords, Medicaid investigators and federal agents
 
I think the name of the thread should be changed to exclude him—the part that says Tony (alive). It’s now known that is he isn’t a victim.

The media thread name is good. Could a mod possibly change/edit this one?

RIP Megan, Alek, Tyler, Zoe & Breezy. You deserved better.
 
How wonderful that you're thinking along these lines. If only more would.
A good way to find a family in need is to contact those who work with the homeless. Many hardworking families miss a paycheck or two and end up living in their cars with children. Help from a few people like us gets them back on their feet.

Well, I do know of a lot of families in need. I work at a Title I school, and we have some of the poorest kids in the country. Many are from immigrant families from Haiti, the Dominican, Cuba, Venezuela, etc. They do an angel tree at our school, and I usually pull off two or three names and get gifts. But the need is so great.

In my position at the school, I sometimes have parent authorization to transport their students home or to an event. And I have taken students home to hotel/motel rooms multiple times. In a few cases, the students were between apartments. One girl was there long-term. In fact, some of the local motels transformed into long-term rentals. They rent by the month, but it's really just a hotel room. There's no stove and often just one room with a few beds and a bathroom. And some seedy people tend to hang around those places. But we have probably 200 students who live in a handful of them in the tourist district. Some of our top students in live in them. And some of them go on to earn full rides to major universities because of their academics. It can be very inspiring. It also can be a lot of emotional weight for a teacher like me and, most importantly, for the students.
 
ANTHONY Todt paid $278,908.51 to settle a lawsuit filed against his physical therapy practice just days before police believe he murdered his wife, three children and the family's dog.

The Sun has obtained court documents showing that Anthony satisfied the judgement on December 23, just days before he and his family were evicted from their Florida rental home.
Mystery deepens as 'killer' dad paid off $275K lawsuit days before he 'murdered family'
 
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The “civil reputable” killer, in contrast, is motivated by altruism where his identity is wrapped up in his family. Committing murder against all family members is, therefore, a way of saving them from the hardship and shame of financial troubles and bankruptcy and they will almost always commit suicide afterward.

If suicide after the act fails, in most cases which reach a court, the perpetrator will almost always plead some form of insanity as a defense, however not all believe this is an adequate explanation for such acts. As in all types of mass murder, there are different motivations and different methods of murder.

It was found that the most common method of killing in familicides involved firearms.
Family Annihilation: The Crimes and Psychology of Familicide | Crime Traveller
 
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