FL - Megan Todt 42, Alek 13, Tyler 11, Zoe 4, & dog Breezy, Celebration, 6 Jan 2020 *ARREST*

[mickey2942]

I agree, there appears to be some interesting similarities with CW. I'm not familiar with Fireplug Jones - I'll have to read about him. Apparently he's another FA who didn't kill himself.

There have been a lot of family annihilators who seemed to be "nice guys". Jeffrey McDonald is one.

I wonder about the victim's family members, mother? Sisters? Christmas is a family time, and definitely if I hadn't heard from my kids, I would have been very worried. Especially after another 2 weeks or so..

 

[molly1255]

Much more analysis at link...

Absent the usual triggers, Anthony Todt’s confessed crime is an unusual case study

I'm not so sure I completely agree with everything the writer states in this article. JMO, we have had several family annihilators who appeared to be devoted family men, no protection orders, etc. who ended up murdering their wives and children and then not commit suicide. AT had been committing fraud for several years and would have ended up with a criminal record, and may have had to spend time in prison.

With FA's like Chris Watts, Chris Coleman and I'll add in Scott Peterson as a family annihilator, even though SP's child had not yet been born. He still murdered him. I don't think any of them had any prior criminal history. AT was already a criminal when he murdered his family, though many people who knew him may not have been aware of that yet.

All JMO.

 

[molly1255]

There have been a lot of family annihilators who seemed to be "nice guys". Jeffrey McDonald is one.

I wonder about the victim's family members, mother? Sisters? Christmas is a family time, and definitely if I hadn't heard from my kids, I would have been very worried. Especially after another 2 weeks or so..

Forgot about Jeffrey MacDonald. He's definitely another one. I'm not sure anything has been reported yet about the wife's family in this case. I would have been worried to death, especially over the Christmas holiday.

 

[evilwise]

Forgot about Jeffrey MacDonald. He's definitely another one. I'm not sure anything has been reported yet about the wife's family in this case. I would have been worried to death, especially over the Christmas holiday.

It's likely he'd had his wife isolated from her family for a long time. Makes her more emotionally dependent.

 

[molly1255]

It's likely he'd had his wife isolated from her family for a long time. Makes her more emotionally dependent.

Perhaps. IDK. I hope we learn the "logic" behind having the family live in Florida while he commuted back and forth.

 

[PezCandy]

His court is on Tuesday I believe right? I posted it way up thread when I seen it on the msm and posted the link. Can’t find it now tho. Hopefully we know more of the why’s then.

 

[NuttMegg]

I agree, there appears to be some interesting similarities with CW. I'm not familiar with Fireplug Jones - I'll have to read about him. Apparently he's another FA who didn't kill himself.

Michael Jones, his wife was Casei. Just a few months ago, Sept 2019. He just looks like a fireplug, as does Todt. Imo

 

[Angels27]

Major gambling addict for sure. I know high rollers who burn through $50,000 a day on a good day. They lose millions every year. Sometimes they get big hits, but they put it right back in. A friend hit $100,000 one day, next day put $250,000 back in. Todt’s offices were 15 mins from 2 big casinos, not to mention many others close by and his sister used to work at one as a coin supervisor. These people resort to taking out high interest loans, like Todt did, to keep gambling. They always think they’ll win it back. They never do. AC casinos alone in 2019 netted over $3.3 Billion from gamblers. It’s the only thing that explains the taking out of over 20 high interest loans and cash advances. It’s a terrible addiction and it usually ends bad. Many commit suicide, some kill. He was being evicted from businesses and homes that month. He saw it as the end. He moved wife 1000 miles away to keep her head out of books he was cooking and so he could gamble no doubt. Casinos won’t give up the goods unless required by LE. Time will tell.

 

[Jamie737]

Major gambling addict for sure. I know high rollers who burn through $50,000 a day on a good day. They lose millions every year.

I'm sure you've got this right. That chase of the high of the win makes sensible people do strange things. I read in the papers everyday of people who steal from their employers to play online games. The thrill must be even more in person.

 

[Officer Dibble]

Long story short - he got himself into a ton of debt, murdered his whole family (mom, wife & 3 kids) and then made himself a new life. The bodies weren't discovered for a month and he was long gone living under a new identity. This happened in 1971. They didn't find him until the late 80's.

Blimey, thanks.

 

[evilwise]

Blimey, thanks.

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And there's some French aristocrat named Xavier Pierre Marie Dupont de Ligonnès who's case is absolutely bizarre and illustrates how different things like this are in Europe.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

Daily Mail - lots of photos of the kids at this link.

Florida neighbors of physical therapist who murdered his family tell of their shock | Daily Mail Online

 

[mickey2942]

I'm sure you've got this right. That chase of the high of the win makes sensible people do strange things. I read in the papers everyday of people who steal from their employers to play online games. The thrill must be even more in person.

Addiction to gambling is really interesting, you look at the addiction, in terms of not only the money, but also the amount of time a person spends gambling. How many activities did they miss because of time spent gambling? I bet that his work was suffering as well.

 

[firebird]

Major gambling addict for sure. I know high rollers who burn through $50,000 a day on a good day. They lose millions every year. Sometimes they get big hits, but they put it right back in. A friend hit $100,000 one day, next day put $250,000 back in. Todt’s offices were 15 mins from 2 big casinos, not to mention many others close by and his sister used to work at one as a coin supervisor. These people resort to taking out high interest loans, like Todt did, to keep gambling. They always think they’ll win it back. They never do. AC casinos alone in 2019 netted over $3.3 Billion from gamblers. It’s the only thing that explains the taking out of over 20 high interest loans and cash advances. It’s a terrible addiction and it usually ends bad. Many commit suicide, some kill. He was being evicted from businesses and homes that month. He saw it as the end. He moved wife 1000 miles away to keep her head out of books he was cooking and so he could gamble no doubt. Casinos won’t give up the goods unless required by LE. Time will tell.

This is what I've suspected, but didn't know about the proximity and connection to casinos. That seals it for me. Imo, you are absolutely correct.

 

[molly1255]

Addiction to gambling is really interesting, you look at the addiction, in terms of not only the money, but also the amount of time a person spends gambling. How many activities did they miss because of time spent gambling? I bet that his work was suffering as well.

Good point about the amount of time a person can spend gambling. I recently had to go to the ER for an injury and while the doctor was treating me, he visited with me. He told me about his career and that he used to be an ER doctor at a hospital that is close to a casino near our city. He said he treated a lot of older people who had spent so many hours sitting in front of a slot machine that they actually passed out from it and got injured when they fell out of their chairs.

In this case, it's pretty clear that due to the traveling back and forth, his hours actually spent at work and being able to legitimately charge Medicaid and private insurers for seeing patients was probably cut in half. His travel expenses had to be huge. There has to be a reason, IMO, that he didn't shut down or sell his CT practice and find a full-time position in Florida rather than to continue sinking further into financial devastation to the point where he began to commit fraud to try to stay afloat.

JMO, I think he was hiding some kind of secret life in CT from his wife and gambling is a very real possibility. I know someone who was treated for a gambling addiction years ago. The counselor had this person go way back to their childhood and tell him what kind of abuse, neglect or trauma this person had experienced as a child. There indeed was abuse in this person's childhood. We already know that AT suffered what had to have been an extreme trauma when he was a child because of what his father did.

All JMO.

 

[molly1255]

This is what I've suspected, but didn't know about the proximity and connection to casinos. That seals it for me. Imo, you are absolutely correct.

I've read there are two very large casinos that are within 15 minutes of one of his PT offices. I am now also suspecting an out-of-control gambling problem as well.

 

[Kittybunny]

Major gambling addict for sure. I know high rollers who burn through $50,000 a day on a good day. They lose millions every year. Sometimes they get big hits, but they put it right back in. A friend hit $100,000 one day, next day put $250,000 back in. Todt’s offices were 15 mins from 2 big casinos, not to mention many others close by and his sister used to work at one as a coin supervisor. These people resort to taking out high interest loans, like Todt did, to keep gambling. They always think they’ll win it back. They never do. AC casinos alone in 2019 netted over $3.3 Billion from gamblers. It’s the only thing that explains the taking out of over 20 high interest loans and cash advances. It’s a terrible addiction and it usually ends bad. Many commit suicide, some kill. He was being evicted from businesses and homes that month. He saw it as the end. He moved wife 1000 miles away to keep her head out of books he was cooking and so he could gamble no doubt. Casinos won’t give up the goods unless required by LE. Time will tell.

Oooh that's a really good theory. Makes a lot of sense and explains a lot.

it's unusual he stayed in the house with the bodies but he seems like a typical cowardly FA to me. Narcissistic and selfish to the extreme.

 

[Angels27]

I'm sure you've got this right.

1. I’ve been to high limit rooms in casinos all over the world, including the 2 closest to him and I’ve seen his sort a lot. Unassuming in the real world, but in the cassie they get treated like royalty by the hosts who offer all kinds of perks including thousands in “free play,” bets, chips, cars, limo rides to n from, comped luxury suites, gourmet meals, etc. Also women will hang around and talk to them as if they’ve known u forever. In HL rooms at cassies high rollers don’t have to work hard to chat up anyone. People flock to u. Remember, everyone there is desperate for one thing: $. The players card is used for “data gathering” to access your “pain threshold,” to lure u in like a rat with cheese, just to fleece u for all you’re worth, and believe me they know EXACTLY what you’re worth. The intel gathering is intense. If u own a business, they know that. They know the price of your homes and businesses, your degrees, your rental properties, the current value of your primary residence, etc. and they are out to get it all, every last dime. I’ve seen it happen time and time again. Some to friends who no amount of counseling could stop. Every move u make, especially in HL rooms is monitored, so card or no card, they’ve got u n they play u like a fiddle.

 

[Angels27]

TT sold his CT house in 2017 I believe, for the mid 300,000’s. Probably flushed that in 1-5 nights at Cassie. The more desperate they get, the higher the wagers. Or used some to pay off high interest loans to keep the wolf’s at bay. One friend had many million dollar rental properties, all bringing in over a million annually. Sold them each one by one to flush at Cassie. Also has an arrangement with casino to borrow cash from them any amount any time. With that said, I’ve looked at the numbers and I would wager he wasn’t a super high roller, but somewhere a tier down. Even non-HL players can easily get into these financial messes and lose everything. Usually takes longer but the outcome is the same. People will bet what they have, or can borrow or steal.

 

[molly1255]

1. I’ve been to high limit rooms in casinos all over the world, including the 2 closest to him and I’ve seen his sort a lot. Unassuming in the real world, but in the cassie they get treated like royalty by the hosts who offer all kinds of perks including thousands in “free play,” bets, chips, cars, limo rides to n from, comped luxury suites, gourmet meals, etc. Also women will hang around and talk to them as if they’ve known u forever. In HL rooms at cassies high rollers don’t have to work hard to chat up anyone. People flock to u. Remember, everyone there is desperate for one thing: $. The players card is used for “data gathering” to access your “pain threshold,” to lure u in like a rat with cheese, just to fleece u for all you’re worth, and believe me they know EXACTLY what you’re worth. The intel gathering is intense. If u own a business, they know that. They know the price of your homes and businesses, your degrees, your rental properties, the current value of your primary residence, etc. and they are out to get it all, every last dime. I’ve seen it happen time and time again. Some to friends who no amount of counseling could stop. Every move u make, especially in HL rooms is monitored, so card or no card, they’ve got u n they play u like a fiddle.

Absolutely agree. I know for an absolute fact that casinos now have technology that "reads" the eyes of the players of slot machines that is built right into the machines. It is an electronic "eye" of sorts and the casino can tell if someone is likely to continue to throw money into a machine that is not paying, or has paid a small jackpot early in the play and then suddenly shuts down. It's not a matter of luck at these places. It's a matter of technology and casinos use it to get every last dime they can out of their customers.

Some gamblers also have problems with the IRS. If they win and get a W-2 from the casino, that needs to be addressed when they do their taxes. If someone is hiding a gambling problem from their spouse, they may not come forward with the W-2 (s), from which the money won likely went right back into the machines. The IRS then comes after them with a demand for payment, plus penalties. My CPA told me he has seen many fights between spouses over this, and also having one spouse come forward at tax-time with w-2 (s) the other spouse knew nothing about.

It can be an incredibly awful and devastating addiction.