Great post,
loveandhugs!!
I agree with you that this was planned. I have wavered back and forth but I now believe this was an intentional act.
If it was intentional (not unplanned/ unwanted/accidental) there must have been a reason for it (motive), along with a desired and expected outcome.
The desired and expected outcome was, IMO, the death of Chloe. Could anyone think there would be any other possible result from dropping a toddler 150 feet??
That leaves motive.
So what could be some possible motives for someone to drop a toddler from a cruise ship to her death?
Or for a group of people to plan with an individual (and sanction their behavior) for that person to drop (throw?) a toddler from a cruise ship?
1) Money. Plain and simple.
a)The money which would result from an insurance policy ( rumored to exist in this case but not proven).
b) The money which could come from a lawsuit against the cruise ship, which has very deep pockets.
***Also, in doing some research on MW & on cruise ship accidents, it appears to me that of all lawsuits brought against cruise ships by any law firm in the last 30 years, it seems around 80% settle out of court. This is not scientific or professional research, just what I found by searching online etc. However, even MW admitted in one article that "most of the civil suits end in settlement and don't go to trial. " That is not an exact quote, I'm paraphrasing, but that is generally what he claimed.
So ... could this kind of "accident" be considered a "slam dunk"? A case in which RCL wouldn't want negative publicity and would "certainly" settle out of court? The death of a toddler would garner all kinds of sympathy for the family, etc etc.
Maybe someone told them that this was the way it works. For that matter, how do we know that they weren't acquainted with MW ahead of time? A bit of a reach, I admit, but anything is possible.
If there was a plan, is it possible something went wrong along the way?
Maybe SA was supposed to be walking with Chloe in his arms and "trip" over something on the floor, or a wet floor, or the ledge by the floor, or that prison bar window, and she would fall out the (already opened) window to her death.....only maybe he screwed up by getting drunk and not following the plan. OK I know I'm reaching again, but hey it could be true. If he appeared to be carrying her securely but he "tripped" and she went out the window, they could argue that if that window wasn't open, she wouldn't have fallen to her death. And it would seem much more believable, and deserving of sympathy vs. him hanging her out the window IMO.
IMO, the deep pockets of the cruise line, combined with their perceived tendency to offer quick settlements, answers the objection I've seen which states: "oh come on, don't you think SA could have found a much easier way to kill her if that's what he really wanted? He didn't have to wait until he was on a cruise ship in front of so many witnesses, he could have done it anywhere."
(YES but then no huge payout.. and I wonder if they intended this to happen on camera, with witnesses....that he was supposed to "trip" and drop her out or maybe just onto the floor....something they thought would
look accidental. If he carried out the plan correctly, the witnesses and cameras would work in his favor and maybe that's what they were counting on because they KNEW about the cameras. But.... then SA got drunk {nerves? fear? second thoughts?} and messed up the plan and that's why KW & AW told him to refuse BAC test. ).MOO JMO & yes I know ...I'm reaching again/still
OK, back to motives.....
2) Medical Issues of child.
If a child has ongoing medical issues which would follow them into adulthood and the prognosis was very poor/ little chance for recovery or to live a normal life. Perhaps a progressive illness which would start becoming very problematic around 2 years of age (there actually are a few conditions/ syndromes that exist in which this happens such as Silver-Russell Syndrome for example).
I am in no way saying I think Chloe had this, or any other condition, just giving an example of a disease that can start out mild and need more treatment with age/ if things don't improve.
The thought could be that they were sparing her a life of suffering/ pain.
Or, perhaps the only treatment available/ recommended for a child's condition is very very expensive, even with excellent insurance. (something, for example, like Human Growth Hormone therapy which is extremely costly averaging $52k /yr and mostly not covered by insurance).
Perhaps they would only be thinking of the inconvenience/ disruption to their lives which comes with having a moderately or severely ill child or one that will need lots of medical care moving forward. MOO
3) Someone was resentful of the child for any number of reasons. I think a few of us have discussed the possibility of perhaps SA being resentful of having to babysit Chloe or maybe this would tie in to any possible medical condition as stated above.
4) To "silence" the child or cover up for possible abuse of some sort. (Just UGH)
*** I am not suggesting that any of these possible motives are attributable to SA, KW, AW or anyone else. Even though I have given a few examples and possible ways one or more of the motives could be present in this case, I am not saying I have evidence that any of them are. I am merely listing POSSIBLE motives which could be present in a case such as this (ie. in the death of a child)
IF it was a planned act. This is all speculation and conjecture and my personal theories.
I personally believe this was a deliberate action and that the death of Chloe was the objective (ugh it hurts my heart to write that). I could very well be wrong and, quite honestly, I hope I am.
Can anyone else think of any other motives/ reasons that someone (or a group of someone's) would decide to do this?
I guess I have to include the following:
5) Pure evil. Some people are. Maybe there was no motive except wanting to kill a child.
6) Mental Illness -- of just the person who directly caused the death or maybe of the whole family or at least a few members?
Thinking about this is making me really sad but I'm forcing myself to try and be logical and think this through. If I am claiming I believe this was planned and intentional (or maybe intentional but not pre-planned, just in the moment?) then I ought to be able to come up with a motive or reason for such behavior. Otherwise I'm just making assumptions based on my feelings or hunches and while those can sometimes serve me well, I'm trying to be rational about this case.
(NOT doing a great job, but trying
).
Anyway those are just my thoughts and what I can come up with as possible motives in this case. Can anyone think of any others?
Even if you think it was an accident, it doesn't hurt to look at all possibilities right? And I appreciate everyone's point of view.... we all have something valuable to contribute as we try to figure out whether Grampa Sal &Co. are truly evil or if he is just the biggest knuckleheaded nincompoop ever to walk the face of the earth
Again, the above is all JMO , MOO.
I hope that whatever the truth is, it does come out so there is some measure of Justice for Chloe.
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I am including the below references and links to show where I got some of the info I listed above as
general examples,
not because I think they are relevant to this case in particular.
"In RSS /SRS*........Consult a pediatric endocrinologist to consider the use of rhGH in an infant
nearing age 2 years who has not manifested adequate catch-up growth. Other endocrine issues that need close monitoring include premature adrenarche and precocious puberty" - from emedicine.medscape,com
* Russell-Silver Syndrome/Silver-Russell Syndrome are the same thing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver–Russell_syndrome
On Human Growth Hormone:
One study of 128 children treated at a single clinic with a slightly higher dose of
growth hormone saw height gains in the range of about 3 to 4 1/2 inches. But that
growth definitely comes at a
cost. The
price of treatment ranges
from $10,000 to $60,000 annually. That works out to
a cost of about $52,000 an inch. And insurance coverage varies.
- From Web MD / webmd.com
