Found Deceased MT - Amy Harding-Permann, 34, Great Falls, 26 Jan 2020

Great Falls Tribune official Facebook page. Interesting comments.

Great Falls Tribune
The Cascade County Attorney's Office released Thursday the dispatch log from the 911 call made by John VanGuilder the night Amy Harding-Permann went missing from a residence near Great Falls.

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KRTV has a story up with the dispatch log contents.
The search for Amy Harding: Dispatch log from 911 call

01/26/20 20:20:41 | SAYS SHE KEEPS JUMPING ON HIM
01/26/20 20:20:48 | AMY HERMAN IS FEMALE
01/26/20 20:20:59 | NO WEAPONS
01/26/20 20:21:03 | CP SAID SHE MAY BE LEAVING
01/26/20 20:21:05 | D spatch
01/26/20 20:21:08 | IS HIGHLY INTOX
01/26/20 20:21:16 | DRIVES A RED COLORADO
01/26/20 20:21:28 | 2-31, 2-44 | D spatch
01/26/20 20:22:11 | PHONE KEPT CUTTING OUT- CALL DROPPED
01/26/20 20:22:23 | BACK INSIDE NOW
01/26/20 20:22:27 | FIGHTING CP
01/26/20 20:22:32 | HITTING CP AND THROWING PUNCHES
01/26/20 20:23:01 | Arr ved
01/26/20 20:23:07 | UNABLE TO STAY SEPARATED FROM HER
01/26/20 20:23:51 | REF MED
01/26/20 20:28:53 | 2-31, 2-44 | Arr ved
01/26/20 20:32:52 | 2-31, 2-32, 2-44 | Check Status (T me (m nutes): 20)
01/26/20 20:54:34 | 2-31, 2-32, 2-44 | Check Status (T me (m nutes): 15)
01/26/20 21:09:58 | 2-31, 2-32, 2-44 | Check Status (T me (m nutes): 30)
01/26/20 21:14:45 | 2-09 | Arr ved
01/26/20 21:20:37 | 2-09 | Check Status (T me (m nutes): 15)
01/26/20 21:29:50 | 2-37 | D spatch
01/26/20 21:35:11 | STANDY SEARCH AND RESCUE FOR POSSIBLE ICE RESCUE
01/26/20 21:40:36 | 2-37 | Arr ved
01/26/20 21:40:52 | 2-31, 2-32, 2-09, 2-37, 2-44 | Check Status (T me (m nutes): 30)
01/26/20 21:41:10 | 2-21, 2-42 | D spatch
01/26/20 21:41:13 | 2-21, 2-42 | Arr ved
01/26/20 21:42:01 | SAR1 | D spatch
01/26/20 21:42:43 | SAR1 STANDBY PAGE SENT OUT
01/26/20 21:44:36 | BAT1 ON STANDBY WITH THERMAL IMAGGER IF NEEDED
01/26/20 21:46:25 | UPDATED SAR1 TO MEET AT 343 FLOOD RD
01/26/20 21:47:00 | 2-31, 2-32, 2-37, 2-44, 2-09, 2-21, 2-42 | Check Status (T me (m nutes): 30)
01/26/20 21:48:15 | SAR 30 ACK PAGE
01/26/20 21:48:26 | SAR 10 ACK PAGE
01/26/20 21:48:54 | SAR 17 ENR TO SCENE
01/26/20 21:49:25 |SAR1 | Enroute
01/26/20 21:54:57 |SAR 25 ENR TO TRAINING BUILDING
01/26/20 21:57:28 |GFES ADV OF THE SITUATION
01/26/20 22:00:04 |306, 309, 299, 348 | D spatch
01/26/20 22:05:14 |2-31, 2-44 | Ava ab e
01/26/20 22:05:34 |SAR 36 ENR TO BUILDING TO MEET WITH SAR 25
01/26/20 22:07:33 |306, 309, 299, 348 | Arr ved
01/26/20 22:13:51 |SAR 25/36 ENR TO SCENE WITH SAR VEH
01/26/20 22:14:29 |306, 309, 299, 348 | Check Status (T me (m nutes): 20)
01/26/20 22:17:28 |2-21, 2-42, 2-09, 2-37, 2-32 | Check Status (T me (m nutes): 60)
01/26/20 22:19:22 |406 799 5877 PER BOYD TRY AND PING PHONE
01/26/20 22:19:28 |2-01 | D spatch
01/26/20 22:20:57 |AMY PHONE WITH AT&T
01/26/20 22:21:12 |SAR1 | Arr ved
01/26/20 22:22:43 |2-01 | Arr ved
01/26/20 22:32:24 |CONTACT 325 FLOOD RD
01/26/20 22:33:15 |Check Status
01/26/20 22:38:40 |C ear A arms
01/26/20 22:45:07 |306, 309, 299, 348 | Check Status (T me (m nutes): 30)
01/26/20 22:46:10 |SAR DEPLOY ICE GUY TO CROSS THE RIVER TO MAKE SURE IT IS SAFE THENWILL ESCORT 32
01/26/20 22:46:53 |21 IS AT 317 FLOOD RD
01/26/20 22:54:24 |2-21 IS PARKED AT 307 FLOOD RD
01/26/20 22:55:26 | AT APPROX 2252 HRS 2-09 LEFT VM ON PHONE FOR AMY
01/26/20 23:05:32 | 2-21 BACK AT 343 FLOOD RD
01/26/20 23:17:54 | 299, 348 | C ear A arms
01/26/20 23:17:59 | 309 | C ear A arms
01/26/20 23:18:01 | 306 | C ear A arms
01/26/20 23:18:10 | 2-31, 2-32, 2-01, 2-37, 2-44, 2-09, 2-21, 2-42
01/26/20 23:30:54 | 299, 348 | Ava ab e
01/26/20 23:32:38 | 2-31, 2-44 | D spatch
01/26/20 23:37:16 | 306 | Ava ab e
01/26/20 23:40:31 | HAVE PD CHECK 213 39TH AVE NE TO SEE IF AMY IS AT THIS ADDY
01/26/20 23:41:31 | 2-31, 2-44 | Arr ved
01/26/20 23:44:43 | 3-31 IS AT 325 FLOOD RD
01/26/20 23:45:46 | DISREGARD HAVING PD CHECK 3
01/26/20 23:47:13 | DISREGARD HAVING PD CHECK 213 39TH AVE NE ***
01/26/20 23:47:24 | HAVE BAT1 MEET ON 325 FLOOD RD
01/26/20 23:48:04 | REQ PD CHECK 1313 15TH ST S TO MAKE CONTACT WITH A JACQUELIN TO SEE IF SHE HAS HAD CONTACT WITH AMY
01/26/20 23:51:49 333 | D spatch
01/26/20 23:51:51 | 344 | D spatch
01/26/20 23:53:48 | LAST TIME WE TRIED TO CONTACT JACKIE SHE WAS UNCOOPERATIVE
01/26/20 23:54:12 | 344 | Arr ved
01/26/20 23:54:24 | 2-01 CALLED JACKIE AND SHE SEEMED LIKE SHE WAS NOT TOO CONCERNED, HE ASK THAT WE TRY TO PRESS HER
01/26/20 23:55:33 | CALL HOMELAND SECURITY SEE IF THEY CAN FLY BY WITH THERMAL IMAGER
01/26/20 23:56:44 | 333 | Arr ved
01/27/20 00:00:18 | 333, 344 | Check Status (T me (m nutes): 10)
01/27/20 00:00:18 | 333, 344 | Check Status (T me (m nutes): 10)
01/27/20 00:03:05 | HOMELAND SECURITY ADV WORKING ON A CALL OUT
01/27/20 00:03:05 | HOMELAND SECURITY ADV WORKING ON A CALL OUT
01/27/20 00:08:11 | 344 | Ava ab e
01/27/20 00:08:11 | 344 | Ava ab e
01/27/20 00:10:59 | 333 | Check Status (T me (m nutes): 10)
01/27/20 00:11:53 | 2-31, 2-44 | Check Status (T me (m nutes): 60)
01/27/20 00:11:53 | 2-31, 2-44 | Check Status (T me (m nutes): 60)
01/27/20 00:18:27 | 333 | Ava ab e
01/27/20 00:18:31 | 2-31, 2-32, 2-01, 2-37, 2-44, 2-09, 2-21, 2-42 | Check Status
01/27/20 00:18:31 | 2-31, 2-32, 2-01, 2-37, 2-44, 2-09, 2-21, 2-42 | Check Status
01/27/20 00:20:55 | CALLING COMMAND POST AT MAFB
01/27/20 00:21:17 | HOMELAND SECURITY UNABLE TO FLY (HELO IN MAINTENANCE)
01/27/20 00:45:07 | 309 | Ava ab e
01/27/20 01:14:35 | 9 REQ SALLY 1 BE PAGED OUT FOR SOME WARM FOOD FOR THE RESPONDERS OUT THERE
01/27/20 01:18:32 | SALLY ONE HAS BEEN REQ
01/27/20 01:18:57 | 2-31, 2-32, 2-01, 2-37, 2-44, 2-09, 2-21, 2-42 | Check Status
01/27/20 01:34:02 | SALLY1 | D spatch
01/27/20 02:03:29 | 31 32 37 42 44 OFF THE ISLAND BACK AT THE HOUSE, 21 DRIVING EAST SIDE OF THE RIVER AND ALL SAR UNITS BACK AT THE HOUSE AS WELL.
01/27/20 02:03:41 | SALLY1 | Enroute
01/27/20 02:19:37 | 2-31, 2-32, 2-01, 2-37, 2-44, 2-09, 2-21, 2-42 | Check Status
01/27/20 03:09:26 | 2-37 | Ava ab e
01/27/20 03:19:53 | 2-21, 2-42 | C ear A arms
01/27/20 03:19:56 | 2-31, 2-44 | C ear A arms
01/27/20 03:19:58 | 2-09 | C ear A arms
01/27/20 03:20:05 | 2-01 | C ear A arms
01/27/20 03:20:08 | 2-32 | C ear A arms
01/27/20 03:23:29 | 2-31, 2-44 | Ungroup
01/27/20 03:37:47 | 2-31 | Arr ved
01/27/20 03:43:24 | C ear A arms
01/27/20 03:58:10 | UNK COLOR LS SHIRT , BLK YOGA PANTS, UNK TYPE SHOES
01/27/20 03:58:16 | ENTER AMY AS MISSING PERSON
01/27/20 04:11:23 | MKE/EME ORI/MT0070000 DEST/MT0070000 REQ/DEH9XXXXXX NAM/PERMANN, AMY ELAINE NIC/M465618276 OCA/M20-0261 MRI 7017892 IN: NC2S 1115 AT 27JAN2020 04:10:42 OUT: J02S00 8 AT 27JAN2020 04:10:42
01/27/20 04:25:10 MKE/EIM ORI/MT0070000 DEST/MT0070000 REQ/DEH9XXXXXX IMAGE IS ACCEPTED NIC/M465618276 IMN/I036245102 IMT/M MRI 7018213 IN: NC2S 1167 AT 27JAN2020 04:24:38 OUT:J02S00 13 AT 27JAN2020 04:24:38
01/27/20 04:28:10 | MKE/EMN ORI/MT0070000 DEST/MT0070000 REQ/DEH9XXXXXX SUPP NAM/PERMANN, AMY ELAINE NIC/M465618276 MRI 7018280 IN: NC2S 1180 AT 27JAN2020 04:28:01 OUT: J02S00 18 AT 27JAN2020 04:28:01
01/27/20 04:32:26 |BULLETIN ADDED
01/27/20 04:32:47 |2-44, 2-37 | Arr ved
01/27/20 04:32:53 |2-44, 2-37 | C ear A arms
01/27/20 04:34:03 |2-01 HEADING TO 436 25TH AVE NE
01/27/20 04:39:19 |321 | D spatch
01/27/20 04:47:53 |321 | Arr ved
01/27/20 04:53:47 |321 | Check Status (T me (m nutes): 15)
01/27/20 04:54:51 |ADDY IS NO GOOD NOW TRYING 213 RIVERVIEW 3E
01/27/20 04:57:59 | 321 | Ava ab e
01/27/20 04:58:11 | 2-01 CLEAR OF ADDYS
01/27/20 05:00:44 | SALLY1 | Arr ved
01/27/20 05:59:58 | 113 RIVERVIEW 8W IS POSS ADDRESS MATTHEW (PER 236 VIA POWERSCHOOL)
01/27/20 06:27:41 | 31 DID ANOTHER CHECK AROUND 341 FLOOD ROAD
01/27/20 06:27:46 | 2-44, 2-37 | Ungroup
01/27/20 06:27:54 | 2-31, 2-44 | Group
01/27/20 06:28:00 | 2-31, 2-44 | Arr ved
01/27/20 06:28:06 | 2-37 | Arr ved
01/27/20 06:29:04 | 2-34 | D spatch
01/27/20 06:29:20 | 2-43, 2-26 | D spatch
01/27/20 06:33:05 | Re-searched the grounds at 317 w th no resu ts. #42
01/27/20 06:34:38 | searched at 349 and spoke w th res dents. #31
01/27/20 06:36:43 | Re-searched the grounds at 307 F ood rd w th negat ve f nd ngs. #42
01/27/20 06:39:21 | 2-31, 2-44 | C ear A arms
01/27/20 06:39:24 | 2-37 | C ear A arms
01/27/20 06:39:42 | 2-43, 2-34, 2-26 | Arr ved
01/27/20 06:39:46 | 2-43, 2-26 | C ear A arms
01/27/20 06:39:55 | 2-34 | C ear A arms
01/27/20 06:42:07 | searched at 345 and spoke w th res dents. #31
01/27/20 06:49:28 | 2-21, 2-42 | Ava ab e
01/27/20 06:50:21 | 2-43 AT 341 FLOOD RD
01/27/20 06:53:13 | 2-34 | Un t Locat on (Locat on: 333 f ood rd) - 333 f ood rd
01/27/20 06:58:02 | 2-09 | Message - s&r, ccso n ght sh ft sa 1 and mafb a be ng re eased per 9
01/27/20 07:06:24 | SAR1 | Depart Scene (Locat on: Quarters)
01/27/20 07:06:39 | 26 c eear ng 341 f ood rd
01/27/20 07:07:39 | 2-31, 2-44 | Depart Scene (Locat on: 10-19)
01/27/20 07:08:56 | SALLY1 | Depart Scene (Locat on: Quarters)
01/27/20 07:10:14 | 2-37 | Depart Scene (Locat on: 10-19)
01/27/20 07:12:40 | resd c ear
01/27/20 07:14:21 | 2-31, 2-44 | At Stat on
01/27/20 07:16:21 | 2-43, 2-26 | Ava ab e
01/27/20 07:16:49 | 34 re eved 32 at scene
01/27/20 07:17:01 | 2-32, 2-09 | Depart Scene (Locat on: 10-19)
01/27/20 07:17:26 | 2-37 | At Stat on
01/27/20 07:20:04 | SAR1 | Arr ved Secondary (Locat on: Quarters) - sar17
01/27/20 07:24:48 | 2-09 | At Stat on
01/27/20 07:24:48 | 2-09 | At Stat on
01/27/20 07:25:38 | 2-37 | Ava ab e
01/27/20 07:25:38 | 2-37 | Ava ab e
01/27/20 07:27:22 | 2-32 | Un t Locat on (Locat on: 3800)
01/27/20 07:27:22 | 2-32 | Un t Locat on (Locat on: 3800)
01/27/20 07:32:20 | SALLY1 | Ava ab e
01/27/20 07:32:20 | SALLY1 | Ava ab e
01/27/20 07:32:32 | 2-31, 2-44 | Ungroup
01/27/20 07:43:48 | sar 25 n qtrs
01/27/20 08:23:20 | 2-09 | Ava ab e
01/27/20 08:34:11 | 2-04 | D spatch
01/27/20 08:35:04 | LEBRUN CONTACTED BENEFIS AND SHE HAS NOT SHOWN UP FOR WORK
 
Could he have been saying "I can't stay separated from her" in terms of their relationship as a way to explain to police why he is in this relationship?

....if someone has called the Police (dispatch?) because they are being attacked/assaulted/or just threatened, i think its quite comical to imagine a conversation about their relationship taking place! Caller: im being assaulted by someone Dispatch: oh no, explain why are you in a relationship with that person!!
LOL.... he's being told to seperate himself if possible from her, ie lock yourself in room for your own safety.
 
Could he have been saying "I can't stay separated from her" in terms of their relationship as a way to explain to police why he is in this relationship?
I could see how that could have been a possibility at the time you were writing your comment/question since we don't actually have a transcript of the call and the way the interpretation of the call log was written in the Great Falls Tribune article.

The raw call log that KRTV published shows that it is definitely related to what it going on at that moment. I wish the Tribune had added the raw call log so that would have been clearer than the phrasing in the interpretation they wrote.
 
"Cascade County Attorney Josh Racki released the dispatch notes of the 911 call but declined to release the audio, stating in an email that because the case is still under investigation, the audio is considered confidential criminal justice information."
Dispatch notes released from the night Amy Harding-Permann went missing
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The transcript does not tell us if the 911 operator heard AHP in the background during the call.
 
I feel like this was a staged event. How far could she have made it in 60 seconds??? This is crazy town

What makes you think it was staged?

She is a nurse, she would be in BIG trouble with the nursing board for being drunk and assaulting someone.

I can totally see someone given her profession, run out of the house when the cops show up so she will not be charged with assault.

Jmo

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Could he have been saying "I can't stay separated from her" in terms of their relationship as a way to explain to police why he is in this relationship?
I would say no, he's speaking of a physical altercation that's ongoing. He's on the defensive if the reports of her actions are true and thus would be trying to get away from her.
 
I could see how that could have been a possibility at the time you were writing your comment/question since we don't actually have a transcript of the call and the way the interpretation of the call log was written in the Great Falls Tribune article.

The raw call log that KRTV published shows that it is definitely related to what it going on at that moment. I wish the Tribune had added the raw call log so that would have been clearer than the phrasing in the interpretation they wrote.

I wish the Sheriff would explain if any LE saw her even for a split second, when they first arrived. Do you think the phone pinging implies that her phone is with her?
 
I wish the Sheriff would explain if any LE saw her even for a split second, when they first arrived. Do you think the phone pinging implies that her phone is with her?
The best I get out of it is that LE did not have nor know where it was and they had a working assumption that she had the phone with her. Also, it seems that Cascade County may not have the ability to initiate a Ping on their own and have to go through the carrier - so that might be what the ATT reference is about. There doesn't appear to be anything in the log indicating either a success or failure. Later whichever officer is 2-09 called her phone and left a voice mail.

01/26/20 22:55:26 | AT APPROX 2252 HRS 2-09 LEFT VM ON PHONE FOR AMY

But we also don't know whether the phone rang or it went straight to voice mail which would give us some insight as to the state of the phone. It is a certainty that whatever location records and activity records exist for her phone LE now has them.

So, for as much information as we can derive from the call log it still leaves much to be desired.
 
Could he have been saying "I can't stay separated from her" in terms of their relationship as a way to explain to police why he is in this relationship?

No......I don't imagine him having the time to examine the long term development of the relationship. My impression is that he was explaining to 911 dispatch that she kept returning to attack him in his own house. JMO
 
The best I get out of it is that LE did not have nor know where it was and they had a working assumption that she had the phone with her. Also, it seems that Cascade County may not have the ability to initiate a Ping on their own and have to go through the carrier - so that might be what the ATT reference is about. There doesn't appear to be anything in the log indicating either a success or failure. Later whichever officer is 2-09 called her phone and left a voice mail.

01/26/20 22:55:26 | AT APPROX 2252 HRS 2-09 LEFT VM ON PHONE FOR AMY

But we also don't know whether the phone rang or it went straight to voice mail which would give us some insight as to the state of the phone. It is a certainty that whatever location records and activity records exist for her phone LE now has them.

So, for as much information as we can derive from the call log it still leaves much to be desired.

The log specifically states that they attempted to "ping" her phone. That is the cellular method of establishing a connection between the cell on the tower and the physical phone, initiated by the tower cell, which inherently locates the phone's exact distance from the tower. That distance can be easily plotted on a map as an arc across the cell coverage area. In this instance, there were few pathways available to her that would have intersected that arc, giving LE an excellent and quick idea of where to look. Since the ping did not locate the phone, which they knew was most likely within the cell coverage, the logical conclusion was that the phone was turned off, or disabled.
I have placed a red arrow on this screenshot from Cellmappers.com showing the narrow cell that her phone would have been in. IMO
Verizon (United States of America) Cell Tower Map
 

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