Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #43

[Angels27]

Sociopaths and psychopaths show no increased respiration or heart rate when discussing their crimes. LS never, in any interview or phone call I’ve heard, ever seemed at all nervous. She instead spent all of her time deflecting and pointing at other possible suspects, and trying to make everyone understand “how hard it is to be a stepmom” and what a great one she was, and concerned about other people’s opinions of her own guilt.

 

[Angels27]

IIRC it was reported somewhere that she worked as a substitute teacher for several months ending in 12/2019.

She probably also knew she’d never work again as a teacher, or anywhere near kids, if it got out that she injured a child. She’d lose her marriage and her career.

 

[kpalma71580]

Is there a court date this week?

 

[RaspberryMama]

You are so on the right path. I can't truly see it as a psychotherapists sees it, either. I totally get not feeling charitable at all. I guess I'm trying to think vaguely about prevention - but as you and I both end up saying - it's too late. If children are not loved and nurtured, there's no prevention.

My friend/colleague actually quit that job, and then, quit any sort of professional job at all. Major PTSD for a while. Drifted away from California IIRC and, I think, went into a career where he cared for animals and organized experiences for kids and animals. I may not be remembering correctly. I just know that now we'd say he had PTSD and I had hoped his writing would help him - but I don't think it did, really.

Yeah, despite all my thinking and research - it doesn't seem to help prevent anything. Even if we each personally started trying to fix people (as I think my colleague did), it doesn't work.

Sometimes I think that gene studies should be done but I don't like where that goes either.

You are a wonderful part of this community, Love Never Fails.

BBM

I am touched by these past few posts between you and @Love Never Fails .

I just wanted to speak to the desire you have each expressed about prevention.

I've shared a very small bit of my dysfunctional childhood on here. Today I'm a healthy, mature adult with struggles... But we all have struggles, so I'm no different in that regard.

I was emotionally and psychologically abused (words from a professional, not my own), as well as a little bit abused physically and possibly even sexually (subtly, not outright).

I've never murdered anyone. I have faith in God, a good husband, the best ever kids, and I'm a damn good mother. I delved deep into some painful things in order to grow into who I am now. And I'm honest about it. I try to help others from similar backgrounds.

My mother, my abuser, and my father, her enabler, have never murdered anyone ( to my knowledge ).

So, after all my prior talk about compassion and the need for understanding how people are shaped by their childhoods, I just want to say personal accountability is key.

There but for the grace of God, go I.

I think, given the right circumstances, any person is capable of murder. We don't want that to be true; we'd like a gap between "us" and "them". but the capacity for evil in the human mind/soul, is matched only by its capacity for greatness.

A person has to want to be "fixed". And that desire to be "fixed" is really just the desire to be better than we currently are. I don't think that desire is fired up in anyone simply by showing compassion and friendship to the depressed, suicidal, murderous individual. Your friend so sadly found this out.

Maybe it's done by showing them what they could be... hold up hope for them to take a good look at. Put goodness and beauty out into the world. Appeal to the good in people, even if there's only a tiny bit there, make them want to be a hero. Shine your light. Encourage them to see how great they can be, to not be "just human," but to be fully human.

I dunno. I'm just rambling here, but those are my thoughts.

 

[HaikuMommy]

BBM

I am touched by these past few posts between you and @Love Never Fails .

I just wanted to speak to the desire you have each expressed about prevention.

I've shared a very small bit of my dysfunctional childhood on here. Today I'm a healthy, mature adult with struggles... But we all have struggles, so I'm no different in that regard.

I was emotionally and psychologically abused (words from a professional, not my own), as well as a little bit abused physically and possibly even sexually (subtly, not outright).

I've never murdered anyone. I have faith in God, a good husband, the best ever kids, and I'm a damn good mother. I delved deep into some painful things in order to grow into who I am now. And I'm honest about it. I try to help others from similar backgrounds.

My mother, my abuser, and my father, her enabler, have never murdered anyone ( to my knowledge ).

So, after all my prior talk about compassion and the need for understanding how people are shaped by their childhoods, I just want to say personal accountability is key.

There but for the grace of God, go I.

I think, given the right circumstances, any person is capable of murder. We don't want that to be true; we'd like a gap between "us" and "them". but the capacity for evil in the human mind/soul, is matched only by its capacity for greatness.

A person has to want to be "fixed". And that desire to be "fixed" is really just the desire to be better than we currently are. I don't think that desire is fired up in anyone simply by showing compassion and friendship to the depressed, suicidal, murderous individual. Your friend so sadly found this out.

Maybe it's done by showing them what they could be... hold up hope for them to take a good look at. Put goodness and beauty out into the world. Appeal to the good in people, even if there's only a tiny bit there, make them want to be a hero. Shine your light. Encourage them to see how great they can be, to not be "just human," but to be fully human.

I dunno. I'm just rambling here, but those are my thoughts.

Love this post

 

[Cindizzi]

Is there a court date this week?

They are moving the 4/14 status conference to June.
Counsel has been given several dates to consider and agree on.
https://www.courts.state.co.us/user...ct/El_Paso/Stauch/O-7 Order to Reschedule.pdf

 

[Cindizzi]

Hmm... maybe police DID look in the Tiguan? Where was HH when police were at the house? Could LS have put the suitcase in the Jetta first, without HH even knowing, and told HH to go somewhere (such as to the park to look for Gannon)? Then when HH came back after police left, LS could have moved the suitcase into the Tiguan. She may have asked HH to do certain things without HH explicitly knowing what was going on (pick up cleaning supplies, back her car into the garage, pick her up somewhere, go look for Gannon at the park and don't come back until police are gone, etc). HH would eventually have to figure it out, though. Anyone with a brain would. JMO

The receipt from Dollar store was found in the Tiguan when they seized it. LS would be alone with access to the Jetta if she told the girls to take her Tiguan to the store.
That’s a lot of shuffling around, but you could be on to something.

 

[BeckyF]

BBM:

It strikes me that TS is a person who's surrounded by people who live by the collective motto:
"See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil"

They turn a blind eye to her evil actions.
They turn a deaf ear and pretend they can't hear the lies spewing out of her mouth.
They stay silent rather than confront and/or disclose her vile behavior.

They're enablers.

As far as I'm concerned, the people who have enabled TS along the way are morally complicit in GS's murder.

Some of them may, in fact, be legally complicit.

I think some of the people closest to her suspected she was the one responsible for GS's disappearance, and helped her, anyway.

Shame on them.

JMO.

BBM Completely agree. I've been saying that all along.

 

[mpnola]

I don't know of this has been mentioned, its moving so quickly. Something is really concerning me. It is obvious she creates lies that can explain certain things, no matter how insane they are. Her lie that both she and Gannon were raped with an object...... I'm very nervous that there is truth to that (but obviously from her, not an intruder). This sick b seemed intent on torturing this poor child, both verbally and physically. I don't even like to say this, but I very sadly will not be surprised if it was true that she also sexually abused him with an object.

 

[mpnola]

Also, her searches did not seem like real searches. I think she knew her search history would be released at some point and they were more like statements intended to embarrass and harm Landen and al. Not real searches for information.

 

[NCWatcher]

My impression is that she was a non-classroom teacher. Curriculum specialists, for example, are typically credentialed teachers - but not in the classroom. People confuse these job titles quite a bit. Often Reading Specialists, Math Specialists and Curriculum Specialist are people with Master's or Ed.D. I will bite my tonge on this issue - because many of them are lovely, devoted people.

But some just need to be out of the classroom - understandable. I just came off a 6 hour teaching day (online) and I feel like spanking some booties. And thank god they can't hear my language.

I seriously doubt the school system confused the titles.

If D-3 could have called her an employee who wasn't in the classroom, they would have. If D-20 could have said she was an applicant for a non-classroom job, they would have. But in letters sent to parents after her arrest both districts called her a "teacher." D-20 carefully appended "applicant" to that title even though she'd been in orientation for days. (School systems don't put "applicants" through multi-day orientations but she hadn't begun teaching so they could say that, I guess.)

A spokesperson for D-20 spoke to the press and called her a teacher as did a principal from D-3. If she'd had an "office job" advising on matters of curriculum but never or only rarely in contact with students, that would have been made clear by the school system IMO. There was every reason for the districts to disavow her contact with kids. Since that wasn't done (except by D-20 saying she hadn't begun teaching yet), IMO it couldn't be done. Also for a period of time, one school said she was a long-term "substitute teacher." Not sure there's such a thing as a "substitute curriculum specialist."
JMO

 

[BeckyF]

Bbm
snipped for focus

I don't think members are going to want to stop posting here, and wait for an update.
We could be in for a looong wait.

Actually I think the release of the AA has given us plenty of fodder for discussion, and evidence that is already substantiated.
So it's encouraging that members are being allowed to continue posting in the thread.
Even if it's the 'same old, same old'.

This thread has been moving quickly and I doubt members are going to stop commenting about the case.

I welcome people's comments as it helps to keep the thread alive and I'd encourage anyone lurking who can add to the conversation to do so.
And the newer member might want to chime in which is often a good thing as new 'eyes' can give a different perspective.

The video interviews with L. Eagan shed some more light on what the household situation was like and we can discuss it as well as it is part of WS.
Of interest to me at his time was how much adults in Gannon's life knew how he was being treated ?
After the interview I no longer feel it's the elephant in the room.
So discuss away.
Imo.

Can you explain what you mean by ‘no longer the elephant in the room’? Please and thank you. IMO there were adults in his life that knew or suspected he was not being treated well.

 

[Cindizzi]

I seriously doubt the school system confused the titles.

If D-3 could have called her an employee who wasn't in the classroom, they would have. If D-20 could have said she was an applicant for a non-classroom job, they would have. But in letters sent to parents after her arrest both districts called her a "teacher." D-20 carefully appended "applicant" to that title even though she'd been in orientation for days. (School systems don't put "applicants" through multi-day orientations but she hadn't begun teaching so they could say that, I guess.)

A spokesperson for D-20 spoke to the press and called her a teacher as did a principal from D-3. If she'd had an "office job" advising on matters of curriculum but never or only rarely in contact with students, that would have been made clear by the school system IMO. There was every reason for the districts to disavow her contact with kids. Since that wasn't done (except by D-20 saying she hadn't begun teaching yet), IMO it couldn't be done. Also for a period of time, one school said she was a long-term "substitute teacher." Not sure there's such a thing as a "substitute curriculum specialist."
JMO

Gannon's stepmom former Widefield School District teacher

Letecia Stauch, the stepmother of 11-year-old Gannon Stauch now accused of his murder, worked as a teacher in Widefield School District 3 for several months last year.

The district sent a notification to all staff and parents in the district on Thursday.

"Letecia Stauch was a substitute teacher in the district from March to May 2019," said Samantha Briggs, WSD3 Director of Communication. "She taught at French Elementary School from August to November 2019. She left the district in November."

Stauch reportedly has had stints working for a variety of schools and districts – most of them brief.

 

[katydid23]

IIRC it was reported somewhere that she worked as a substitute teacher for several months ending in 12/2019.

I saw a very credible woman, report that her son was in her class, when Tee took over a 4th grade class when a teacher went on sick leave. She said the kids really liked her, oddly enough.

 

[katydid23]

Can you explain what you mean by ‘no longer the elephant in the room’? Please and thank you. IMO there were adults in his life that knew or suspected he was not being treated well.

I think she may have been hinting about a discussion during a recent WS YouTube ---during which people wondered out loud just how much Gannon's father might have known about Tee's treatment of his children. JMO

 

[BeckyF]

I think she may have been hinting about a discussion during a recent WS YouTube ---during which people wondered out loud just how much Gannon's father might have known about Tee's treatment of his children. JMO

Thank you. I will listen to it again. Kinda what I thought.

 

[pcrum12]

I'm with you

It would be a lot simpler if she in fact just stopped along the road in Douglas county and followed him into some brush and shot him or bludgeoned him to death and left him there. But I keep coming back to the bloody particle bd that LE had believed he was transported on. I just can't see why that would be relevant if he was killed outside the home. Additionally I kept thinking that when the suitcase was missing may have clued them to what likely happened. But then it hit me that if T had taken the suitcase when she left the home to move to a hotel, well then we probably wouldn't know weather it was actually there or not when AS returned home. Unless AS had thought to look for missing things like luggage etc when they thought that GS may have run away. Obviously if LE knows that the suitcase was missing from day one then its highly likely that she used it to transport GS from the home. I still can't make up my mind. I was soo convinced that the most likely scenario was that she had evil intentions when they left home that morning for her back road excursion , but the AA tells me differently. Yet I'm still stuck with the insane idea that T knowing she was going to call LE and report her stepchild missing and start an investigation would have risked him being hidden in her car in her own home. For a very controlling person to leave such crucial evidence right under LE's nose is just unfathomable to me and goes against almost every case I have followed. I've seen cases where murderers hid evidence/body's in their own homes or property's, but those cases have always been bc someone else sent LE to their doorstep.

This here (bolded) is what bothers me more than anything about the theory he came back with her. I can't get past it.

 

[HundredAcreWood]

What bothers me is after she went to the airport and picked up her Tiguan, she dumped G at the site, but then she called HH to pick her up at Powers and Carefree leaving the Tiguan. I wonder what happened next.

 

[MsBetsy]

The runaway searches and the "can nintendo find my switch" were all done on the 28th, AFTER she'd reported Gannon missing. As well as "car net volkswagen" -- likely trying to find out if the Tiguan/Jetta could be tracked.

Oh, ok, thanks. I must be thinking of the search she did from Gannon's phone about a parent finding you when the phone is off.

 

[MsBetsy]

Can you explain what you mean by ‘no longer the elephant in the room’? Please and thank you. IMO there were adults in his life that knew or suspected he was not being treated well.

"Elephant in the room" refers to an obvious and difficult or unpleasant situation that people do not want to talk about.

So I think since discussing other people or family members is against the rules without something in MSM to back it up, we now have more information from the affidavit that allows us to speculate openly.

That's what I think the OP meant by there no longer being an elephant in the room.

In addition, the way Gannon was treated in the home may also have been the "elephant in the room" that people around him chose to ignore or avoid.

Imo