Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #48

[10ofRods]

They of course have Gannon's DNA as they compared samples of the blood taken from the house and discussed the matchings in the original AA. BUT, They have not managed to get a DNA sample from the remains in the suitcase, to prove it's Gannon, mystery to me.
I am astounded as I have read stories exactly like you wrote above.

I think crime labs in Florida may be in a greater state of disarray than we realize. Isn't the idea that some of Gannon's remains will be sent back to Colorado for testing? If FL has had a delay in doing the sequencing, it makes sense for Colorado to arrange to do it. I am guessing that merely suggesting such a transfer takes time and a process.

I think prosecutors in both states know it's Gannon. The DNA results are for the jury, as are the dental results (just in case Letecia's defense tries some ridiculous claim that it's not Gannon). It's not urgent to run the DNA, if there's a more urgent use of a PCR machine in FL, then Colorado should simply go ahead and do the testing.

 

[heartandsoul]

I’m having a hard time with them discovering his skull elsewhere? Do I have that wrong? Was it NOT in the suitcase as well? I’ve tried to read the past two days off and on and may have missed my own answer.

I believe his whole body was found (at least, I don’t think there’s anything saying it wasn’t). His jawbone was recently sent separately for dental records to conclusively prove it definitely is Gannon, due to a hold up getting that confirmation from his remains in Florida. Confusing, and heartbreaking.
Every time I refer to Gannon in this way it devastates me

 

[crhedBngr]

I believe his whole body was found (at least, I don’t think there’s anything saying it wasn’t). His jawbone was recently sent separately for dental records to conclusively prove it definitely is Gannon, due to a hold up getting that confirmation from his remains in Florida. Confusing, and heartbreaking.
Every time I refer to Gannon in this way it devastates me

RBBM

I like to think this way as well. At least, until I am proven wrong.

JMVHO.

 

[ogls]

No body is going to forget about Gannon. I am online in a forum/chatting because of this case. I'm not getting off this case til its over. LS, she is only remembered as a murderer of dreams.

I fully expect a law/Gannons Law to be enacted some how to prevent "this" issue of ever happening again to a child/person. Perhaps, Children age 12 and younger AUTOMATIC AMBER ALERT.

LS utilized a loophole, runaway, to delay LE and caused further harm to the public. I want the loophole closed!!

I feel like many, sick, every time I have to think of a little boy as a victim. Everything he didn't get to do it's just so sad so wrong!!

 

[kyrarose]

No body is going to forget about Gannon. I am online in a forum/chatting because of this case. I'm not getting off this case til its over. LS, she is only remembered as a murderer of dreams.

I fully expect a law/Gannons Law to be enacted some how to prevent "this" issue of ever happening again to a child/person. Perhaps, Children age 12 and younger AUTOMATIC AMBER ALERT.

LS utilized a loophole, runaway, to delay LE and caused further harm to the public. I want the loophole closed!!

I feel like many, sick, every time I have to think of a little boy as a victim. Everything he didn't get to do it's just so sad so wrong!!

You can’t have an Amber Alert without a detailed description of vehicle/abductor, etc.

 

[JDough]

She no more wants to sit in the courtroom with every ones eyes on the back of her head and hearing what awful things she did to Gannon then she wants to spend the rest of her life in prison. I believe she always thought she was better than LH.. now she will have her sitting there seeing how disgusting of a human she is and has been.

RSBM
You are spot on, IMO. If we look at her "backwards" interview and how she tried to keep out of the camera view during her court appearance to hear charges, she clearly doesn't want to look anyone in the eye. It is surprising to me that she chooses to do this considering her very active claims that she was innocent on social media and in interviews. Now she wants to hide. I honestly believed that her pathological lying self would be defiant, and portray a feeling of superiority. That she would look directly into the camera lenses and stare down AS and LH. Hmmmm........ must be guilty.

I, too, believe she has always thought she was better than LH. Her constant derogatory comments, and attempts to cast suspicion on LH prove this. I can only hope that seeing AS and LH together, publicly portraying an united front will cause her to have all kinds of thoughts about the relationship between the two of them going on in her head. Her jealousy must be off the charts! Karma- what goes around comes around!!!! Her abhorrent behavior is coming around to bite her in the *advertiser censored**.

 

[La Louve]

Good Morning.

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YUMMM
*mesmerized by the giant pop-bead-bracelet-looking pastry in the back*

 

[crhedBngr]

YUMMM
*mesmerized by the giant pop-bead-bracelet-looking pastry in the back*

Ha, ha!

That's the fun of looking for different donut photos, and posting them.

Wish I could give one to Gannon.

 

[Lori Cooper]

Did the AA ever say which vehicle they believe she transported Gannon’s body in to Florida?

At the time the AA was issued, Gannon's body had not yet been found.

 

[NCWatcher]

You can’t have an Amber Alert without a detailed description of vehicle/abductor, etc.

I agree. And even if somehow the law was changed or a new one passed to require "missing child" alerts to be blasted immediately for all 12 and under kids reported as runaways or as missing, it wouldn't stop a case like this from happening again.
Gannon was dead before the police were notified. Most children who are killed by a family member are dead before LE is involved. And IMO requiring more mandatory alerts would cause more problems than they would solve so I hope that doesn't happen (although I understand the urge to "do something.")

If members of the general public are constantly blasted with "be on the lookout" alerts for the huge number of kids reported as missing each year I'm afraid we'd eventually ignore the alerts (including the alerts that contain detailed perp info as Amber alerts do now.) And many "runaways" do come home fairly quickly.

I'm not sure how it can be accomplished, but to me the most meaningful thing that could come from GS's death is a greater awareness of abuse within families. I'm not pointing fingers at anyone in this case. And while many here think GS was abused on a regular basis, we don't know what the actual evidence will show. But too often after a child dies at the hands of a family member we hear other family members/friends did suspect abuse but kept quiet for a variety of reasons.
JMO

 

[MsMarple]

BBM

I don't believe the evaluation concerns #1.

From Competency to Stand Trial

BBM below

"Competency to stand trial is legally unrelated to the defendant’s mental state at the time of the alleged crime. In other words, the issue of competency relates to the defendant’s state of mind during criminal proceedings, not during the commission of the crime."

I should have been clearer as I was referencing both competency to stand trial and the possibility that LS would try an insanity defense. A few members had expressed concern that she might go for insanity. I understand the difference but failed to address each independently.

Thanks for making it clearer!

 

[kittythehare]

How do we know they've discussed any kind of narrative?
I haven't seen anything in the MSM (although it's entirely possible I've missed an article).
All I have seen, is TS scribbling some lunatic fantasy plan to escape and telling HH not to worry.
A note she never even sent to her, since it was found still in her cell.

Probably never meant to be sent, only found, if her escape was a success/ her bluff was discovered as planned by her..

 

[Error505]

Quite frankly, I am more concerned about the competency of the guard(s) who did not notice and/or care that TS was passing these notes under her neighbor’s door as she was walking down the hall. No wonder she continues to be so darn brazen, when she keeps finding people who underestimate her ability to be a sneak.

I wonder if guards in COS jail were maybe just giving her “enough rope” to hang herself, figuratively speaking. The jail is aware she’s an escape risk because of Kansas. I have a feeling they were watching, just waiting for the right time to catch her “red handed.” She’s not nearly as smart as she thinks. Maybe they were aware of notes, I doubt this one inmate is the only one who would rat her out. Just something I’ve been thinking about. Hard to charge an inmate for “passing notes” when “conspiring to escape” carries a whole new set of legal ramifications.
I do have a better pic in my mind of her daily routine now. She’s going bat crazy with only her own twisted mind to keep her occupied spending 23 hours a day in solitary confinement! I bet she loathes getting shackled at the waist and feet when she’s escorted, greasy hair, jailhouse stench and all.
#Here4Gannon. So sorry no one saw this coming, little guy!

edited for clarification

 

[Heaven Leigh]

Can you imagine how much she misses Social Media ?? haha

 

[Buddhagirl]

Just thinking of Gannon, Landen and Al and having such empathy for them. When I first read about a jawbone I felt sick. That precious precious beloved child to be reduced to bones. His parents are amazing to hold it together. Their love of Gannon is so much stronger than anything. I picture Al in court the other day and have no idea how he doesn’t jump up and strangle LS. I’m sure he knows her being in jail for life is better than anything he can do to her, but still...

I loathe that woman for taking so much away from Gannon and his family. You can tell from his pictures and videos there was something special about him and I’m not just saying that bc of what happened to him. He was just a special one.

The one thing I’m sure of is Gannon knew and felt his parent’s love.

 

[ogls]

I agree. And even if somehow the law was changed or a new one passed to require "missing child" alerts to be blasted immediately for all 12 and under kids reported as runaways or as missing, it wouldn't stop a case like this from happening again.
Gannon was dead before the police were notified. Most children who are killed by a family member are dead before LE is involved. And IMO requiring more mandatory alerts would cause more problems than they would solve so I hope that doesn't happen (although I understand the urge to "do something.")

If members of the general public are constantly blasted with "be on the lookout" alerts for the huge number of kids reported as missing each year I'm afraid we'd eventually ignore the alerts (including the alerts that contain detailed perp info as Amber alerts do now.) And many "runaways" do come home fairly quickly.

I'm not sure how it can be accomplished, but to me the most meaningful thing that could come from GS's death is a greater awareness of abuse within families. I'm not pointing fingers at anyone in this case. And while many here think GS was abused on a regular basis, we don't know what the actual evidence will show. But too often after a child dies at the hands of a family member we hear other family members/friends did suspect abuse but kept quiet for a variety of reasons.
JMO

Society isn't going to stop it/abuse/murder from happening. We do need to work better at the foundation/home/society. We shame people who want to get help, run them through the mill, while others, including workers abuse the system. Society use to be big on ISO/Quality Control for Manufacturing, we need some help at home! That's a way long discussion there.

I will pay $ to have the Amber Alert of a Pic on my phone for YOUR missing child. I believe YOUR missing child is important to YOU & SOCIETY. They might just be the one who discovers a cure-so YEP I want them to live and be found alive! Or if hurt, punish those who took their chance who took our chance away.

If you "runaway" are under 12 that's such an alarm- you need to be home/in the care of LE and tell why you ranaway. Everyone deserves to be safe and free from harm, even if it's from family/caretakers.

I feel anyone runaway should be AA, but with something like Gannon's Law at least 12 and under would be helpful not hurtful.

 

[NCWatcher]

Society isn't going to stop it/abuse/murder from happening. We do need to work better at the foundation/home/society. We shame people who want to get help, run them through the mill, while others, including workers abuse the system. Society use to be big on ISO/Quality Control for Manufacturing, we need some help at home! That's a way long discussion there.

I will pay $ to have the Amber Alert of a Pic on my phone for YOUR missing child. I believe YOUR missing child is important to YOU & SOCIETY. They might just be the one who discovers a cure-so YEP I want them to live and be found alive! Or if hurt, punish those who took their chance who took our chance away.

If you "runaway" are under 12 that's such an alarm- you need to be home/in the care of LE and tell why you ranaway. Everyone deserves to be safe and free from harm, even if it's from family/caretakers.

I feel anyone runaway should be AA, but with something like Gannon's Law at least 12 and under would be helpful not hurtful.

I appreciate your caring and your passion.

But the facts as we know them in this case right now (per the AA) say GS was dead before LE was involved. So an an alert put out by LE would have done nothing to save him.

We can't know if there had been some sort of earlier intervention related to the family situation that he would have been saved. But we do know an alert on the evening of January 27 could not have saved him. Even IF (as some on WS have suggested) GS was only mortally wounded and hidden away when the police were called that night (a hypothesis I don't personally believe) asking the citizens of Colorado Springs that night to BOLO for Gannon wouldn't have helped. Even in the very unlikely event he was terribly wounded but still alive, we do know he wasn't anywhere he could be spotted by members of the public.

We do know people become "habituated" to constant warnings, alerts, buzzers, sirens, and so forth. We also know that around 1.5 million children and adolescents run away each year in the US. We know that many others go missing for other reasons. While all are not 12 and under, if even 1/4 were, that would be a heck of a lot of alerts sounding off if immediate alerts were required for every 12 and under runaway/missing child.

Facts and Figures About Runaway and Homeless Youth

It would be a shame if the alerts that potentially could save a child, "Look for Vehicle X with License plate Y last seen driven by Suspected kidnapper Z in this area," were ignored because there was a constant flood of alerts for 12-hr runaways who were temporarily hiding in friends' basements.

We also know the most common single reason for running away involves abuse or fear of abuse. 45 Uncommon Teenage Runaway Statistics

It's not a big leap to hypothesize many family members who kill children may have abused those children in the past. So it seems to me devoting more effort to tackling that issue makes more sense than creating a new Alert law.

JMO

 

[ogls]

I appreciate your caring and your passion.

But the facts as we know them in this case right now (per the AA) say GS was dead before LE was involved. So an an alert put out by LE would have done nothing to save him.

We can't know if there had been some sort of earlier intervention related to the family situation that he would have been saved. But we do know an alert on the evening of January 27 could not have saved him. Even IF (as some on WS have suggested) GS was only mortally wounded and hidden away when the police were called that night (a hypothesis I don't personally believe) asking the citizens of Colorado Springs that night to BOLO for Gannon wouldn't have helped. Even in the very unlikely event he was terribly wounded but still alive, we do know he wasn't anywhere he could be spotted by members of the public.

We do know people become "habituated" to constant warnings, alerts, buzzers, sirens, and so forth. We also know that around 1.5 million children and adolescents run away each year in the US. We know that many others go missing for other reasons. While all are not 12 and under, if even 1/4 were, that would be a heck of a lot of alerts sounding off if immediate alerts were required for every 12 and under runaway/missing child.

Facts and Figures About Runaway and Homeless Youth

It would be a shame if the alerts that potentially could save a child, "Look for Vehicle X with License plate Y last seen driven by Suspected kidnapper Z in this area," were ignored because there was a constant flood of alerts for 12-hr runaways who were temporarily hiding in friends' basements.

We also know the most common single reason for running away involves abuse or fear of abuse. 45 Uncommon Teenage Runaway Statistics

It's not a big leap to hypothesize many family members who kill children may have abused those children in the past. So it seems to me devoting more effort to tackling that issue makes more sense than creating a new Alert law.

JMO

Agree, by the time AA would be issued, crime is in place/probably cannot be saved.
LE has to walk a fine line between protecting our rights while defending our rights/covering their backs. I appreciate all they do. They too need help dealing w/what they deal with. Yeah, it's their job, but I expect their job to include help dealing with the crazy of murder/crimes. They too have to go home to regular folk. Again, long discussion.

I take polls/some stats w/a slight eye, there are many variables/correlations my prof would be happy I use them. I read scientic abstracts/journals and still have slight eye. Slight eye being the margin of error/spin I try to assume, a phone poll-what about the people w/o phones? didn't answer? etc.

The average person who disregards AA's isn't who AA needs. The AA will allow people like me to be aware. Yes I do look harder while I'm out, cuz AA may mean possible car chase and I'd like to avoid that too. A statewide alert and a protocol in place, I'd love to see happen. LIMIT the opportunity for crime to spread. Even if it happened days before, there will at least be something going on for LE and the person.

Every missing person is you, you would want everything they have to bring you home. That's what I want to see happen, including myself if ever.

 

[Brubon]

They don't have Gannon's body DNA?
They got DNA from the chewing gum (tree sap) of a Neanderthal woman.
They have at least Gannon's jawbone so DNA must be there.

I have read that dental pulp is the best source of DNA. Knowing sweet Gannon's teeth are in Colorado, there should be no problem extracting his DNA.
That poor, poor child. I must remind myself he is an angel at this point in time and knows only peace and joy.
IMO

 

[coastal]

I agree with you,Ninja Bunny, I read out your quote to my understanding partner he finally asked me what has happened, I told him partner walked away rolling his eyes saying quotw" How dumb do you have to be to think you can to escape from prison like that".
But he then said yet people have done what other people are dumb and have got away with it. He mention the Mad Scotman I cannot think of his name in the World War Two he was in the Normandy Invasion, the beginning of D Day. He was a ranking officer who lead his unit in the charge in a kilt carrying only a sword with the piper playing up the beach behind the unit, not one enemy soldier fired a shot at him or his Unit.
IMO, I looked at Letecia may not be incompetent may have a mental disorder has known for years but has used this to her advantage. The reason I say this, is being a former ward of State Welfare from the 1970's to 1980's I been going through my files but with also with a group of Care leavers of the same timeline we talk and support each other. One member past files really now stands out as I am looking LS behaviour.
From his files, he found out his parent had Gross Personality Disorder(I think is is called now Anti Social Disorder,when reading up about it they know what their are doing.)
I think LS shows all the signs, that is IMOO. )
My friend he has watched the Gannon Case from the beginning, but now he stood back as he said it is too much for him to handle. He believes in his opinon LS has this disorder and she will be confined to a mental facuilty without facing trial, causing more grief to Gannon Family and friends, he speaks from experience.

From the files his brother and him had found, His Parent attended a Clinic in Sydney for Mental Disorder in 1970's, it is stated she has Gross Personalty Disorder when she was admitted to clinic.
She left her partner(after cleaning out the bank account before leaving South Australia to moving to Sydney that was one thing she had not inform the clinic)
Claimed to be struggling with money no employment,yet well dressed takes constant trips by plane interstate while the children are left alone dirty and starving. Admits to abusing her boys. Used many fake names. Told so many different stories, she always plays the victim. Clinic and people don't take action.
When she was divorced she even gave the Family Court a fake address never pick/signed her papers, four years later she got married(Still not signed/collected the D Papers) husband found out when she left him two years later after he was left with no money. Before she "married " again, two years earlier, the boys came home from school to find her gone they were placed in a children home before claimed by their Dad.
He said living with his Mum was like walking on egg shells. She could be so charming and witty. Then there was her other side.

I am sorry your friend suffered. It sounds like he is lucky to be alive.