Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #36

[gitana1]

Well, but flip it around and look at this way:

What kind of person finds out their sister is fighting a recurrence of cancer and doesn't even bother to ask any questions about her health, the treatments she's receiving, and/or how her symptoms are being managed?

I don't have a hard time at all believing that SM would have shared that info with her family.

The fact that siblings don't speak often doesn't necessarily mean they're not emotionally close.

JMO.

True. And very well put. I would find it odd if family didn’t ask about such things.

 

[lonetraveler]

Yeah, they mean “BM.” My autocorrect does the same thing. It’s fitting though, as BM is the BS king.

 

[gitana1]

I don't get the controversy. What woman facing possible death from cancer, upon learning that her husband won't let her take remedies to feel better....what woman wouldn't reach out to family and friends for sympathy/help? And, upon learning what the husband was doing to their friend, many people would share that with other family members. When my mother died of cancer and for about 30 years after, ppl just didn't talk about cancer, it was hush hush, something to pretend didn't exist.

Thank goodness for the openness today.

Yes. In fact now, I think the reason so many people start bringing up a bunch of suggestions is because they want to help. They feel bad. They don’t know what to do.

 

[MassGuy]

Quite true! Did she ever explain why LE asked her to submit to the lie detector test that she refused to take? I might have missed that part. IMO

Just a guess, but possibly because they wanted to make sure she was telling the truth?

 

[Puzzles8]

IIRC, the first time she had cancer she was a very young adult, maybe 19. The second bout I believe was after they moved to CO. IMO

You're right, the first time she fought cancer was in her late teens. Even if BM was beginning to become part of her life then, he would have had no business inserting himself into her care. Her family would have controlled her care then and IMO would not have denied her any possible relief.

When she relapsed in her mid to late 40's, BM would have sadly been more influential in her life decisions.

 

[oviedo]

The $500,000 inheritance does not just “become”half of Barry’s just because she put it into the purchase of the house that they both lived in. If they were to divorce , and assuming the funds were still available and that equity exists , the Money would go directly back to her. He does not get half of it. If she were to die though , the inheritance money would go to him - called “spousal inheritance”. At least that’s how it is in some other states. No sure about CO I guess.

In my state property held joint with right of survivorship Goes to the survivor unless there is a valid written instruction otherwise - if married at the time of sale of joint property it’s distributed at closing unless - again- there is a separate legal written instruction. I’m waiting for the for sale sign to go up

JMO

 

[LietKynes]

Very true. I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it again, IF BM is innocent in disappearing SM, then he is guilty of being a bad husband IMO.

I know some will say - well, he’s a private person or maybe he’s too shy or uncomfortable to speak out, etc...

BM has been controlling the narrative from day one. The only times that BM speaks out is to defend any allegations against HIM. He puts out a 26 sec plea for his missing wife, but gives LS a thirty minute conversation to degrade his workers and accuse LE for everything else.

I have tried many times to consider other possibilities, but each one falls flat for me. We are approaching 5 months now, and if BM’s alibi or stories matched up, LE would have cleared him by now. In fact, when BM announced he had been cleared, LE was very quick to respond to LS that he was not.

If anyone has other theories that would point away from BM, then I would certainly listen to those (as long as I don’t have to do mental gymnastics to get there) You don’t have to name anyone you may suspect, just hypothetical scenarios.
MOO

bbm
This ^^^
Says it all in a nutshell.

 

[Dave F.]

I must be the “nosiest” person when it comes to my loved ones, then.

Right now I’m on an update email chain for a relative of my law partner, regarding daily updates of how they’re doing, what procedures they’re undergoing, etc.




It’s not at all a nosy question in most families. That’s her brother. Not some random dude.

Also, when someone has cancer, invariably, a bunch of people offer tons of unsolicited advice about treatments, supplements, etc.

I can see Suzanne saying to her brother, in response to a question about whether she’s tried marijuana: “I’ve thought about it. But you know Barry is very much against it. He thinks it’s a slippery slope to drug use. I don’t want to upset him. But it’s okay.”

She also may have told a close girlfriend of her issues and that was recently told to AM.

Until January 1, 2017 all forms of marijuana were illegal in Indiana, but.......
You gave me a great idea! I hate the timing of the red light that I have to stop at to get out of our neighborhood. If it doesn't change in 45 seconds, I think seriously about running it. There are no traffic cams where I live, so if I get caught, it will be "red-handed". I'll just say "I had no choice. My spouse has cancer and doesn't like me to be gone very long." I would tell my brother about my great idea, but he probably would just lecture me. He's a lawyer. I think they like to do that. Then he would probably say something like: "Sorry to hear about her cancer. You never mentioned it before, so I never brought it up."
IMO

 

[K9Enzo]

I’m trying to find the source, so far, all I can find is that Suzanne’s cancer returned around the time that they were preparing to move to Colorado. I’m just wondering if AM could have experienced BM’s feelings about marijuana first hand, while they were still in Indiana. Also, trying to remember timeline of possible consideration of anti-depressants. Off in search of a transcript.

I apologize for not having the source. IMO, a lot of this info is coming from PE interviews or just their show discussions in general on SM. To me, it’s easier to site an actual article because I’ll most likely forget the episode and timestamp of the statements said. With LS interviews they almost always end up in a written article, which is nice. IMO

 

[scapa]

It's a nosy question. An answer that she wanted to use medical weed, but her husband forbade it, is an intimate detail that a normal person would not reveal in a rare conversation. IMO

IDK. I've had versions of this type of convo with quite a few friends and family members in recent years as I, or they, have gone through cancers or chronic illness. I wouldn't consider it nosey, really. He's her brother, not some stranger in the coffee-shop queue

Q: How are things? How are the treatments going?
A: Tough, but I'm getting through it. I have a followup scheduled for May X, and if all goes well then I'm officially in remission.
Q: That's great news, great news. Are you taking anything for the pain?
A: Not unless it's really bad. My specialist asked whether I have any interest in CBD for the pain and inflammation but, you know BM --
Q: To him it's a drug.
A: Right. A drug, not a therapy. So who knows...

Quite a natural conversation to have in the circumstances IMO.

 

[Dave F.]

Just a guess, but possibly because they wanted to make sure she was telling the truth?

Bingo!

 

[BeachSky]

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did he control all of her social media
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i wonder now you know what i mean i
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almost think it was more of a brow
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beating
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than it was anything he was anti-drug
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city
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he suzanne wanted to try some marijuana
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when she was going through her
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chemotherapy because she'd heard that
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really eased a lot of the symptoms
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and he was so against that and i know at
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one time i think it was 2013
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she went through a period there where
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she kind of had a breakdown
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and i think she got an anti-depressant
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or something to help her get out of that
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slump
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and i know he was so against that he
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browbeat her over that almost every day
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and that bothers me too this happens to
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people you know i mean it doesn't mean
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you're a nut

hypothetically of course...

How & when does a person stop “seeing” the very soul they fell in love with? How can they feel entitled to not only end that soul’s life, but to hide the only part remaining of them (that their loved ones have for closure)? How,how, how???

MOO
May justice come soon!

 

[BeckyF]

It's a nosy question. An answer that she wanted to use medical weed, but her husband forbade it, is an intimate detail that a normal person would not reveal in a rare conversation. IMO

IMO it is not nosy at all. Nor is it an intimate detail. And I certainly would not label SM as abnormal from my impressions of what her personality is or was. Conversations about using medical marijuana are not as taboo as they were many years ago. I would not hesitate to tell anyone in my family that I use it or want to use it.

 

[DizzyB]

I don’t know how LE operates, but if they can, while interviewing BM, say that MG took a lie detector test and passed, and she refutes the things that you have told us, well, that might be something to ponder. Especially if BM once again moves the ball-or the cat.

 

[Louise369]

In my state property held joint with right of survivorship Goes to the survivor unless there is a valid written instruction otherwise - if married at the time of sale of joint property it’s distributed at closing unless - again- there is a separate legal written instruction. I’m waiting for the for sale sign to go up

JMO

Inheritances aren’t considered joint property though. In Colorado , all property acquired during the marriage , with the EXCEPTION of gifts or inheritances are considered joint property and are subject to division. It Doesn’t matter where her inheritance was held-if it was tied up in the down payment of the house or in a savings account - It is still hers. Unless it is proved that she’s dead. And I’m not sure how that gets proved.

 

[10ofRods]

Inheritances aren’t considered joint property though. In Colorado , all property acquired during the marriage , with the EXCEPTION of gifts or inheritances are considered joint property and are subject to division. It Doesn’t matter where her inheritance was held-if it was tied up in the down payment of the house or in a savings account - It is still hers. Unless it is proved that she’s dead. And I’m not sure how that gets proved.

Inheritances that are spent on jointly owned property, though, are generally considered community property unless the couple has a trust or other instrument drawn up. I suppose a will could do it, too (but it would be unusual).

In my state, it would not still be hers. The minute she put it into a joint investment - it became...a joint investment. And unless she had an irrevocable trust (unlikely), it's his.

 

[DizzyB]

If I strongly believed in CBD-if I had access, was an expert in the field, could provide anecdotal information about the benefits, and wanted to provide help or relief to someone I care deeply about, I would most certainly offer my hand.

 

[Megnut]

PE guys are having some technical difficulties tonight, but wow, this search is going to be well organized. Wow.

JMO

 

[oviedo]

Inheritances aren’t considered joint property though. In Colorado , all property acquired during the marriage , with the EXCEPTION of gifts or inheritances are considered joint property and are subject to division. It Doesn’t matter where her inheritance was held-if it was tied up in the down payment of the house or in a savings account - It is still hers. Unless it is proved that she’s dead. And I’m not sure how that gets proved.

And we don’t really have their bank statement showing the transaction source of this purchase of the home do we? At this point we only know what her brother knows regarding the inheritance - now what I would like to see is the check that distributed this inheritance (or wire transfer) - did it go to a joint account or a personal account for our gal ? Once those funds are co-mingled all bets are off IMO - again this is my state - CO? Who knows ? The thing is when you list and sell a propert and set up closing - who’s going to question the distribution of the proceeds? No one questioned what happened in the June 5 sale of the IN property which was the subject of the initial guardianship proceedings so I think if that property (CO) was listed and sold - he would get all of the money at this point- unless someone intervenes?
All JMO

 

[MsBetsy]

It's a nosy question. An answer that she wanted to use medical weed, but her husband forbade it, is an intimate detail that a normal person would not reveal in a rare conversation. IMO

I don't remember AM saying that he specifically asked Suzanne about it. He said she wanted to try it, but Barry was against it. From all the research and everything I've heard Doctors say about the benefits of medical marijuana for treating nausea, loss of appetite, and depression and anxiety I can't imagine anyone being against at least trying it to relieve symptoms. I saw how much it helped my mother, and I can't imagine my father being "against" it.

I must be abnormal, because if I was in the same situation and my brother or a friend asked me how I was managing the symptoms, I would definitely bring up the fact that I wanted to try anything that would help but my husband was against it. If anything I would want a second opinion from someone close to me.

And especially, I would try it anyway despite what my husband thought. Maybe Suzanne didn't feel comfortable going against her husband's wishes, for some reason. That's the part that is concerning to me. What happened when she made her own decisions about her medical treatment? Why was she "browbeaten" almost every day when she had depression? Did she take her Dr's advice instead of her husband's? That would be another thing I would tell my family about, especially if it made me unhappy.