CO - Adre ‘Psycho’ Baroz, 26, Wanted After Remains Of 3 Victims Found, Conejos Co, Nov 2020 *Arrest*

[Cassady]

I’m beginning to think that maybe this guy shouldn’t have been out on the streets in the first place...

Woman says she was drugged, sexually assaulted by homicide suspect ‘Psycho’

Unfortunately that is often the case. Many times they are also drug CI's, which adds more salt to the wound...IMO

 

[Cassady]

The article about the previous assault conviction is digusting. I have also said that if a majority of people knew what kind of stuff was going on at their local courthouse they would be shocked. This article also makes me lean towards serial and organized.

The vicitm mentioned "they" injected her. This is organized and involves multiple people. They will target people they socialize with and strangers, whatever opportunity presents itself...IMO.

IMO more arrests will happen and sadly more victims will be discovered. I think LE found a little nest of devils and I hope they catch them all!

 

[Lore Listener]

The article about the previous assault conviction is digusting. I have also said that if a majority of people knew what kind of stuff was going on at their local courthouse they would be shocked. This article also makes me lean towards serial and organized.

The vicitm mentioned "they" injected her. This is organized and involves multiple people. They will target people they socialize with and strangers, whatever opportunity presents itself...IMO.

IMO more arrests will happen and sadly more victims will be discovered. I think LE found a little nest of devils and I hope they catch them all!

I'm a domestic violence advocate, and in Colorado for sure but everywhere really, people who commit sexual and domestic violence almost always get plea bargains making their felony charges misdemeanors. Unless it's a high-profile stranger/serial rape case (and sometimes not even then) these crimes just don't get taken seriously by the courts. But the research shows that domestic and sexual violence (much like animal abuse) are predictors of a perp's capability to commit catastrophic violence. As seems to be the case here.

Some links:
A Common Trait Among Mass Killers: Hatred Toward Women (Published 2019)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/investigations/domestic-violence-murders/
https://www.preventdvgunviolence.org/multiple-killings-zeoli.pdf

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Deputy Director of Investigations for CBI Chris Schaefer echoed the statements of Chief Anderson. Schaefer saying, “Our priority for now is to get Mr. Baroz into custody and to identify the remains of the individuals that we have found. However as Chief Dingfelder has said this will take a long time.”

Schaefer also sharing that at this time they do not have any indication that this case is connected to the Suzanne Morphew missing person investigation. He shared that at this point there is no information to indicate that these cases are connected. However, he shared that they are actively investigating and will go wherever the information takes them.

The investigation is ongoing and a “tip line” has been established to help gather information related to this investigation. If you have any information you are asked to please call (719) 270-0210.
Forensic Anthropologist confirms three human remains

 

[Dave F.]

Deputy Director of Investigations for CBI Chris Schaefer echoed the statements of Chief Anderson. Schaefer saying, “Our priority for now is to get Mr. Baroz into custody and to identify the remains of the individuals that we have found. However as Chief Dingfelder has said this will take a long time.”

Schaefer also sharing that at this time they do not have any indication that this case is connected to the Suzanne Morphew missing person investigation. He shared that at this point there is no information to indicate that these cases are connected. However, he shared that they are actively investigating and will go wherever the information takes them.

The investigation is ongoing and a “tip line” has been established to help gather information related to this investigation. If you have any information you are asked to please call (719) 270-0210.
Forensic Anthropologist confirms three human remains

I think the message is quite clear that Sheriff John Spezze is not interested in exploring any connection between this case and his stalled SM disappearance case. I'm dumbfounded as to exactly what message he is sending; but if the Morphew case is connected, it will come out in due time. In the meantime, we are looking at a horrible set of crimes here. As stated in the news conference, Suzanne Morphew is unfortunately NOT the only missing person in the area. Far from it. IMO

Tattooed man nicknamed 'Psycho' sought after remains of 3 found in San Luis Valley

 

[oviedo]

I’m beginning to think that maybe this guy shouldn’t have been out on the streets in the first place...

The woman says she came into contact with Baroz two years ago at a New Year’s Eve party.

“We went and I don’t remember much after that. I mean, I remember waking up in between, and I know they were putting a needle in my arm and then I passed out again, and then I kind of woke up the next morning freaked out,” she said.

Her claim is Baroz drugged her with methamphetamines and other substances, and sexually assaulted her that night.

Court documents show Baroz was charged with four felonies and a misdemeanor related to sexual assault and drugging a victim on New Year’s Day 2019.

The district attorney dropped the four felony charges, and Baroz pleaded guilty to misdemeanor assault, according to court paperwork.

“Even today I still have horrible anxiety,” the woman said. “I don’t know, ever since he threatened to come after me and stuff, I was always watching my back, I was nervous at work, I had to have escorts and everything.”

Woman says she was drugged, sexually assaulted by homicide suspect ‘Psycho’

Horrific
JMO

 

[gliving]

yes BBM
“Law enforcement discovered the bodies on the two Conejos County properties last week while serving a search warrant related to stolen vehicles and construction equipment, Monte Vista police Chief George Dingfelder said. Photos of the properties near sparsely populated Los Sauses show small houses with various vehicles and trailers parked outside.”

I'd like to see the probable cause for the search warrant.

 

[Dave F.]

Here is a revised Google Earth Aerial View of Los Sauces, with both the first site, where one set of remains was reported to be discovered; and the second site, where two more sets of remains were reported found. The two locations are 2.0 miles apart by road.
The first site is 18201 County Road 28 (GPS coordinates 37°15'24.36"N, 105°45'5.36"W)
The second site is 19086 CO RD 27 (GPS coordinates 37°16'13.70"N, 105°45'54.13"W)
The sites do not seem to have anything in common, other than they are both currently vacant.

The map was produced entirely in Google Earth Pro with no external editing. Geo location was done by matching news photos provided to media by CBI to county assessor photos on the Conejos County Parcel Viewer (Assessor maps).
ArcGIS Web Application

 

[justtrish]

"Investigators told The Gazette that the remains were found in burn pits."

Tattooed man nicknamed 'Psycho' sought after remains of 3 found in San Luis Valley

Many more details at link.

Agh thank you. I saw a photo of a backhoe or some type of digger and thought if they are skeletal and buried, then maybe not recent, but burn pit explains a lot. Ugh Horrible.

 

[Dave F.]

Great info.

With AT LEAST three victims found in burn pits, this is likely a situation where they have found piles of chared bones.

Whether this guy is settling beef for his set or a serial nut job is hard to say at this point, IMO.

The crime scene looks suited for either. Not the type of place anyone would want as their last images on earth.

Does anyone know if the backhoe in the pictures is LE's or was it there when they showed up? The cab has a tremendous amount of dust on it..IMO

My guess is that the backhoe belongs to the Road and Bridge department of Conejos county. It seems to be parked at the county shops in the Google Earth Aerial View dated December 20, 2016. I suspect that "dust" is also a little bit of chalking of the yellow paint due to age of the equipment and long-term exposure to sunlight and weather.

The Google Earth Aerial View was produced entirely in Google Earth Pro with no external editing.
IMO

 

[modesty blaise]

Horrific!

 

[Dave F.]

Myron Martinez, a resident of Seven Mile Plaza (between Del Norte and Monte Vista) was last heard from on Tuesday evening, October 27, 2020 when he called his mother in another state from a gas station in Alamosa. From social media, he is acquainted with "Psycho".
San Luis Valley Missing Persons

 

[Cryptic]

He has several friends with latin king tattoos. I think it is likely gang related killings, especially with the burning. I doubt he's in the country still. JMO

My guess is that he "has no where to run to" in regards to flight to another country.

The closest foreign country would be Mexico. Given the area in Colorado where the murders occurred, the suspect is probably a 'Hispano' (Hispanic subculture with multi century ties to northern New Mexico and south east Colorado).

Most of the younger generation- and probably even the previous generations do not speak Spanish. Since Hispanos have been in those areas since before there was a USA or a Mexico, the odds of him having relatives in Mexico are extremely low.

As a side note, even if he does run to Mexico, those facial tattoos are going stand out. Mix the uhmmm "ink" with a lack of Spanish and more importantly lack of Mexican citizenship and he has a very good chance of being quickly extradited back home.

Extradition from Mexico can be very difficult, but that only applies to Mexican citizens. What ever Mexican laws are regarding inherited citizenship are, my guess is that this guy has about as much a chance of being a Mexican citizen as I do.

 

[azure]

My guess is that he "has no where to run to" in regards to flight to another country.

The closest foreign country would be Mexico. Given the area in Colorado where the murders occurred, the suspect is probably a 'Hispano' (Hispanic subculture with multi century ties to northern New Mexico and south east Colorado).

Most of the younger generation- and probably even the previous generations do not speak Spanish. Since Hispanos have been in those areas since before there was a USA or a Mexico, the odds of him having relatives in Mexico are extremely low.

As a side note, even if he does run to Mexico, those facial tattoos are going stand out. Mix the uhmmm "ink" with a lack of Spanish and more importantly lack of Mexican citizenship and he has a very good chance of being quickly extradited back home.

Extradition from Mexico can be very difficult, but that only applies to Mexican citizens. What ever Mexican laws are regarding inherited citizenship are, my guess is that this guy has about as much a chance of being a Mexican citizen as I do.

Great post. He has, however, been caught!

 

[Cassady]

Colorado Judicial Branch - Court Docket Search

 

[Cassady]

From Colorado Courts Docket page re Mr. Baroz:
12/9/20
10:00 AM 1Hr BAROZ, ADRE Permanent Planning Hearing D112020JV2 Conejos County Division C

1/14/21
9:30 AM 1Hr BAROZ, ADRE Status Conference C22020M41 Alamosa County Division B

1/14/21
9:30 AM 1Hr BAROZ, ADRE Status Conference C22019M65 Alamosa County Division B

IMO the first case, D112020JV2, is a child protection hearing. The second case, C22020M41 is from this year, but hard to determine if this is related to the current search and arrest. The third case, C22019M65 is from 2019.

I could find nothing in New Mexico courts about a pending extradition for "Adre Baroz". For a serious criminal investigation dealing with a true psycho and likely accomplices in what looks to be grisely murders, there is almost no news or information coming out since the arrest. IMO it is starting to smell like the chief suspect in this case may have been serving as a CI for the government in some capacity. I hope I am wrong, but usually cases like this get a ton of press and LE is agressive about releasing basic info about the perp in hopes of getting more leads and info. There seems to be radio silence since his capture...IMO

 

[Dave F.]

New Mexico procedure for extradition, as I understand it, is a formal written appeal directly to the governor. Once that is done, the defendant may still refuse to waive extradition, which will require a formal hearing. I don't think anything is an obstacle, but it takes time to walk through the process. Prior to any of this happening, the Colorado authorities need to be fully prepared and in place to bring back a high priority accused. I presume he will be housed in the Alamosa County Jail, which serves as a regional facility for maximum security detention and is convenient to the 12th District Court. Once he is returned, believe he must have a First Advisement Hearing within ten court days, which during the holidays can seem a lot longer. With the Thanksgiving holiday, and restrictions due to Gallup being in a very high COVID19 risk area, I would imagine the wheels of justice will move slowly at first.

It is a simple fact of life that there is very little main stream media news coverage left in western North America. Live reporting is simply no linger sustainable in small town / rural areas. Reporters aren't walking away.......they simply aren't there.
IANAL, IMO

 

[Cassady]

This is the type of case that would normally be picked up by multiple national outlets, as well as media from both Denver and Albuquerque/Santa Fe.

1. At least three dead bodies.

2. From an area with multiple missing young people.

3. Suspect's street name is "Psycho".

4. Suspect previously convicted of misdemeanor under sweetheart plea deal for an alleged drugging and raping case.

5. Suspect currently has pending criminal matters.

6. There are liklely other suspects involved with the arrested suspect

7. There may be other victims

This has Nancy Grace, 20/20, Dateline, Discovery ID, etc. written all over it.

IMO national or regional media have not had any new updates because the LE has been radio silent since the arrest.

Typically the apprehnsion of a really bad suspect in connection with a multiple murder case would result in a press conference from LE. I am not aware of any such press conference, and I find that very odd...IMO.

This is a serious matterm with other potential suspects and victims, but very little information has been provided to the public by LE...IMO

 

[Songbird1973]

Here is a revised Google Earth Aerial View of Los Sauces, with both the first site, where one set of remains was reported to be discovered; and the second site, where two more sets of remains were reported found. The two locations are 2.0 miles apart by road.
The first site is 18201 County Road 28 (GPS coordinates 37°15'24.36"N, 105°45'5.36"W)
The second site is 19086 CO RD 27 (GPS coordinates 37°16'13.70"N, 105°45'54.13"W)
The sites do not seem to have anything in common, other than they are both currently vacant.

The map was produced entirely in Google Earth Pro with no external editing. Geo location was done by matching news photos provided to media by CBI to county assessor photos on the Conejos County Parcel Viewer (Assessor maps).
ArcGIS Web Application

Just curious if you looked at the parcel owners to see if Baroz owns either of them. I can never get those GIS maps to cooperate on my phone or I would look myself.

 

[Dave F.]

Just curious if you looked at the parcel owners to see if Baroz owns either of them. I can never get those GIS maps to cooperate on my phone or I would look myself.

Good question! The owners of each property do not live in the area, but are not related to him in any way that I can see. Both residences seem to have been vacant and unlivable for quite some time.
One oddity that I noticed is that, if you look closely at this news photo of the second search site, it appears that the doors of that shed or garage appear to still be closed tight while the corner of the sheet metal skin of the structure wall has a been peeled back to gain access. One might wonder if LE suspected that the doors might be booby-trapped.
There is gang-style graffiti spray painted prominently above those doors. The only part of it that I recognize is the five pointed star, which might indicate Latin Kings. It a rather strange place, in a weird location, for gang graffiti!
IMO
Suspect nicknamed 'Psycho,' wanted after human remains found in Colorado, is arrested