Sentencing and beyond- JA General Discussion #9

The girls got game, Coffee is added to regular face cream to create personalised foundation. Jolly Ranchers (lollies) are soaked in hot water then mixed with a touch of body cream for a homegrown hair gel. Coloured pencils are broken open, crushed into powder, then added to baby powder and used as eyeshadow. The colour from an M&M's coating is blended with water and works as a lip and cheek stain, while the peanuts inside (from the peanut version) are added to face cream for a protein face mask. More and more prisons are adding beauty products to inmates commissary items as long as they are used for the intended purpose. Makes for a more docile environment and keeps inmates from participating in nefarious ventures.
Putting candy all over your face just sounds gross to me! I just learned of Juan's disbarment when I watched the Scott Falater case on 20/20 the other night. Very sad and disappointing to learn of it. He was such a good prosecutor. ABC spun it and played it up to be sympathetic to Falater and his claims of sleepmurdering. It was also disingenous the way they just happened to throw in Juan's disbarrment at the very end, as if that affected Falater's case, which, like Arias's, it did not.
 
Dr. Robert Geffner was surprised when he met Jodi Arias, who was accused of murdering her ex-lover Travis Alexander in a jealous rage.

"When I first interviewed her, she was friendly and cooperative," the defense expert recalled to Fox News. "But when it came time to discuss the case, she seemed more cold, more aloof, much more distant. She showed little emotion. The only time emotions would surface was when she talked about her mother or Travis."

The case that quickly transformed into a media circus is being revisited in a new documentary streaming on discovery+ titled "If I Can’t Have You: The Jodi Arias Story." It features Arias’s personal diaries, as well as interviews with the defense, prosecution, friends and family.

Geffner, a psychologist and founding president of the Family Violence and Sexual Assault Institute in San Diego, Calif. participated in the documentary. His testimony aimed to counter a prosecution witness’s contention that Arias has borderline personality disorder.

Geffner believed it was clear Arias suffered from trauma that stemmed from her childhood.

During her trial, Arias alleged her parents abused her starting at age 7.

"She would say it was harsh discipline," said Geffner. "[She described] bruises, being choked, thrown against the wall, beaten with a wooden spoon and all sorts of things. It was certainly a dysfunctional dynamic. She later started using marijuana to essentially escape her trauma, block out her emotions. She eventually escaped the family and got into a very abusive, dangerous relationship, which was corroborated by friends at the time."

“She had no history of violence, even though she was portrayed as such," Geffner shared. "Her level of violence as a teenager was she would kick a wall occasionally that sometimes left dents if she got into an argument with one of her parents. But there is no evidence to prove that prior to Travis, she had a history of being violent."
Jodi Arias appeared ‘friendly’ after Travis Alexander’s brutal murder, expressed remorse for his death: doc
 
The new Discovery Plus special on Arias is out. "If I can't have him" was billed as a more neutral look at the case.

Having just watched it, a few observations:
1. They highlighted that they read from Arias's diary, some of which was the first time it was revealed to the public.
2. Interviews included the Hughes, Willmott, Geffner, Martinez, the lady investigator in Yreka, the mitigation specialist DeLaRosa, and a few others.
3. This was a very Arias-friendly presentation. Very little positive was said about Travis. Lots of things from Arias point of view.
4. DeLaRosa did a walkthrough of the house where she basically narrated the Arias story as if it was fact. They spent way too much time with her.
5. Willmott is sticking to her story that Arias was abused. To be honest, I had a much better impression of Willmott before watching this, thinking that she was just doing her job being the best advocate for her client in the judicial system. The idea that she actually believes a lot of this stuff is disappointing.
6. SOOOO many incriminating things were left out. The gun. The license plates. The cell phone. The gas cans. The phone calls after. The sheer volume of things being left out makes this an extremely biased and prejudicial presentation of the events.

I subscribed to the Discovery Plus trial to watch this. Based on the results, I am cancelling my subscription.
 
The new Discovery Plus special on Arias is out. "If I can't have him" was billed as a more neutral look at the case.

Having just watched it, a few observations:
1. They highlighted that they read from Arias's diary, some of which was the first time it was revealed to the public.
2. Interviews included the Hughes, Willmott, Geffner, Martinez, the lady investigator in Yreka, the mitigation specialist DeLaRosa, and a few others.
3. This was a very Arias-friendly presentation. Very little positive was said about Travis. Lots of things from Arias point of view.
4. DeLaRosa did a walkthrough of the house where she basically narrated the Arias story as if it was fact. They spent way too much time with her.
5. Willmott is sticking to her story that Arias was abused. To be honest, I had a much better impression of Willmott before watching this, thinking that she was just doing her job being the best advocate for her client in the judicial system. The idea that she actually believes a lot of this stuff is disappointing.
6. SOOOO many incriminating things were left out. The gun. The license plates. The cell phone. The gas cans. The phone calls after. The sheer volume of things being left out makes this an extremely biased and prejudicial presentation of the events.

I subscribed to the Discovery Plus trial to watch this. Based on the results, I am cancelling my subscription.
Just as I suspected. I didn't watch it
The new Discovery Plus special on Arias is out. "If I can't have him" was billed as a more neutral look at the case.

Having just watched it, a few observations:
1. They highlighted that they read from Arias's diary, some of which was the first time it was revealed to the public.
2. Interviews included the Hughes, Willmott, Geffner, Martinez, the lady investigator in Yreka, the mitigation specialist DeLaRosa, and a few others.
3. This was a very Arias-friendly presentation. Very little positive was said about Travis. Lots of things from Arias point of view.
4. DeLaRosa did a walkthrough of the house where she basically narrated the Arias story as if it was fact. They spent way too much time with her.
5. Willmott is sticking to her story that Arias was abused. To be honest, I had a much better impression of Willmott before watching this, thinking that she was just doing her job being the best advocate for her client in the judicial system. The idea that she actually believes a lot of this stuff is disappointing.
6. SOOOO many incriminating things were left out. The gun. The license plates. The cell phone. The gas cans. The phone calls after. The sheer volume of things being left out makes this an extremely biased and prejudicial presentation of the events.

I subscribed to the Discovery Plus trial to watch this. Based on the results, I am cancelling my subscription.
Just as I suspected. The same is true with the Peterson case and others.
 
The new Discovery Plus special on Arias is out. "If I can't have him" was billed as a more neutral look at the case.

Having just watched it, a few observations:
1. They highlighted that they read from Arias's diary, some of which was the first time it was revealed to the public.
2. Interviews included the Hughes, Willmott, Geffner, Martinez, the lady investigator in Yreka, the mitigation specialist DeLaRosa, and a few others.
3. This was a very Arias-friendly presentation. Very little positive was said about Travis. Lots of things from Arias point of view.
4. DeLaRosa did a walkthrough of the house where she basically narrated the Arias story as if it was fact. They spent way too much time with her.
5. Willmott is sticking to her story that Arias was abused. To be honest, I had a much better impression of Willmott before watching this, thinking that she was just doing her job being the best advocate for her client in the judicial system. The idea that she actually believes a lot of this stuff is disappointing.
6. SOOOO many incriminating things were left out. The gun. The license plates. The cell phone. The gas cans. The phone calls after. The sheer volume of things being left out makes this an extremely biased and prejudicial presentation of the events.

I subscribed to the Discovery Plus trial to watch this. Based on the results, I am cancelling my subscription.
Just as I suspected. I didn't watch it
 
The new Discovery Plus special on Arias is out. "If I can't have him" was billed as a more neutral look at the case.

Having just watched it, a few observations:
1. They highlighted that they read from Arias's diary, some of which was the first time it was revealed to the public.
2. Interviews included the Hughes, Willmott, Geffner, Martinez, the lady investigator in Yreka, the mitigation specialist DeLaRosa, and a few others.
3. This was a very Arias-friendly presentation. Very little positive was said about Travis. Lots of things from Arias point of view.
4. DeLaRosa did a walkthrough of the house where she basically narrated the Arias story as if it was fact. They spent way too much time with her.
5. Willmott is sticking to her story that Arias was abused. To be honest, I had a much better impression of Willmott before watching this, thinking that she was just doing her job being the best advocate for her client in the judicial system. The idea that she actually believes a lot of this stuff is disappointing.
6. SOOOO many incriminating things were left out. The gun. The license plates. The cell phone. The gas cans. The phone calls after. The sheer volume of things being left out makes this an extremely biased and prejudicial presentation of the events.

I subscribed to the Discovery Plus trial to watch this. Based on the results, I am cancelling my subscription.
Thanks for the summary! Now I don’t have to waste my time watching it.
 
Dr. Robert Geffner was surprised when he met Jodi Arias, who was accused of murdering her ex-lover Travis Alexander in a jealous rage.

"When I first interviewed her, she was friendly and cooperative," the defense expert recalled to Fox News. "But when it came time to discuss the case, she seemed more cold, more aloof, much more distant. She showed little emotion. The only time emotions would surface was when she talked about her mother or Travis."

The case that quickly transformed into a media circus is being revisited in a new documentary streaming on discovery+ titled "If I Can’t Have You: The Jodi Arias Story." It features Arias’s personal diaries, as well as interviews with the defense, prosecution, friends and family.

Geffner, a psychologist and founding president of the Family Violence and Sexual Assault Institute in San Diego, Calif. participated in the documentary. His testimony aimed to counter a prosecution witness’s contention that Arias has borderline personality disorder.

Geffner believed it was clear Arias suffered from trauma that stemmed from her childhood.

During her trial, Arias alleged her parents abused her starting at age 7.

"She would say it was harsh discipline," said Geffner. "[She described] bruises, being choked, thrown against the wall, beaten with a wooden spoon and all sorts of things. It was certainly a dysfunctional dynamic. She later started using marijuana to essentially escape her trauma, block out her emotions. She eventually escaped the family and got into a very abusive, dangerous relationship, which was corroborated by friends at the time."

“She had no history of violence, even though she was portrayed as such," Geffner shared. "Her level of violence as a teenager was she would kick a wall occasionally that sometimes left dents if she got into an argument with one of her parents. But there is no evidence to prove that prior to Travis, she had a history of being violent."
Jodi Arias appeared ‘friendly’ after Travis Alexander’s brutal murder, expressed remorse for his death: doc

She also described murderous ninjas. Doesn't mean there were really murderous ninjas in TA's house. Diagnosing what was said by him as a bad case of Geffner Grift.
 
Jodi is still among the living in the Facebook groups. An occasional influx of clueless newbie members keeps her notoriety afloat. It's been quite awhile since the appeal fund has received any new donations. My computer is still bursting at the seams with Jodi documents, photos, testimony, etc. Years of stuff. Waiting on the next "big one" but I doubt any newbie will overtake Jodi in the bizarre category.
 
Just as I suspected. I didn't watch it
Just as I suspected. The same is true with the Peterson case and others.
Well now I'm really glad that I didn't sign up for Discovery Plus. I heard that they gave the same treatment to the JonBenet Ramsey case interviewing Lou Smit's daughter. He lost all credibility when he prayed with the Ramseys and is claiming the Intruder did it theory, despite the facts that there was an unbroken spider web on the basement window and no footprints in the snow outside.
 
I am always open to watching or hearing the "other" side of the story for interest sake. I didn't see the Discovery Plus special on Arias, but it goes without saying that the purpose of producing such a show, despite concrete evidence of her guilt, is to take advantage of a case that captured international interest. Obviously the Arias and Ramsey cases may garner enough viewer interest to sign up for and pay for their streaming service.

That's business folks! jmo
 
In reality there is only so much they can cram into an hour long TV show.So they have to be frugal with their content. There really isn't much wow factor left in any of these crime show "specials".
 
Jodi is still among the living in the Facebook groups. An occasional influx of clueless newbie members keeps her notoriety afloat. It's been quite awhile since the appeal fund has received any new donations. My computer is still bursting at the seams with Jodi documents, photos, testimony, etc. Years of stuff. Waiting on the next "big one" but I doubt any newbie will overtake Jodi in the bizarre category.
Elizabeth Holmes.... and Theranos. Billion-dollar-Jodi.
 
Jodi is still among the living in the Facebook groups. An occasional influx of clueless newbie members keeps her notoriety afloat. It's been quite awhile since the appeal fund has received any new donations. My computer is still bursting at the seams with Jodi documents, photos, testimony, etc. Years of stuff. Waiting on the next "big one" but I doubt any newbie will overtake Jodi in the bizarre category.

and... Leticia Stauch...
 

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