CO CO - Kelsie Schelling, 21, pregnant, Pueblo, 4 Feb 2013 *Arrest* #2

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Brandon Thompson @BThompsonNews 18m
More of Lucas's 2017 interview: Officers ask: Was this premeditated or spur of the moment and Lucas replies "Not on my part." Later on officers are still pressing him and ask "please tell us the truth" through tears Lucas says "I can't tell you I killer her in any type of way
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because I did not. I would never hurt my friends or family." and "I did not watch my friend die. If I did, some one else would be dead. That's a fact." and "I wish I could come and tell you, 'Oh because we had an argument and she hit me and i hit her and i hit her too hard,' but

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I can't say that." The officers move on to Sara Lucas, placing the blame on her. They seem to indicate that Sara confessed and Lucas responds "But why man. There's no reason for that. Why would she want to hurt her, she did everything for everyone." The further the interview

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goes on, the more tears Lucas is fighting through to speak. He says he's always too emotional and his frustrated with the questioning. Lucas says Feb 5 is a blur because it;s nearly 5 years ago, but also said he and Kelsie were high on marijuana, cocaine and were drinking that

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day. He said instead of going to Parkview medical center that day,they actually went to pick up the drugs and that's why he lied about going to the hospital.

 

[Seattle1]

Wow -- Lucas lured Kelsie to Pueblo just to get high?

Drive to Pueblo, I have a surprise for you!

Blame the victim, shameful.

 

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Kasia Kerridge @KasiaKerridgeTV 1m
END OF DAY 12: Played in court today was the hours-long, emotional interview between police and Lucas just days before he was ultimately arrested for Kelsie’s murder in 2017. Pueblo police tried getting anything out of him, but Lucas would not admit anything. @KKTV11News


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Detectives would say things like “only you, Kelsie and God know what happened.” Lucas was very emotional saying Kelsie was his best friend and he didn’t know what happened to her. This kind of conversation went on for hours.


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Kelsie's team was expected to wrap up today, but they did not finish. Could happen any day now, then Lucas' team will takeover. @KKTV11News

 

[GoJacks]

WANTED: Man suspected of killing a woman who was going to testify in the Donthe Lucas murder trial out of Pueblo

DENVER (KKTV) - A man is wanted by authorities in Colorado as he is suspected of killing a woman who was going to testify in a trial out of Pueblo that has gained national attention.

On Thursday, Denver Police shared a photo of 29-year-old Emmanuel Chandler that can be viewed at the top of this article. He is suspected of first-degree murder in connection with a shooting death that claimed the life of Roxann Martinez.

 

[Seattle1]

WANTED: Man suspected of killing a woman who was going to testify in the Donthe Lucas murder trial out of Pueblo

DENVER (KKTV) - A man is wanted by authorities in Colorado as he is suspected of killing a woman who was going to testify in a trial out of Pueblo that has gained national attention.

On Thursday, Denver Police shared a photo of 29-year-old Emmanuel Chandler that can be viewed at the top of this article. He is suspected of first-degree murder in connection with a shooting death that claimed the life of Roxann Martinez.

Thanks, @GoJacks. At first glance, the suspect looks like Lucas! I'm wondering if the victim thought the same.

Late on the night of Feb. 26, Denver police responded to reports of a woman lying near the corner of East Kenyon Drive and South Wabash Street. Officers determined the woman was deceased after getting on scene.

Prosecution witness in Donthe Lucas trial killed in Denver shooting

 

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SCHELLING/LUCAS DAY 12: Played in court today was the hours-long, emotional interview between police and Lucas just days before he was ultimately arrested for Kelsie’s murder in 2017.
Pueblo police tried getting anything out of him, but Lucas would not admit anything officials didn't already know. Detectives would say things like “only you, Kelsie and God know what happened.” Lucas was very emotional saying Kelsie was his best friend and he didn’t know what happened to her. This kind of conversation went on for hours.
Kelsie's team was expected to wrap up today, but they did not finish. Could happen any day now, then Lucas' team will takeover.

 

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Carl Winder KOAA [URL='https://twitter.com/CWinderKOAA']@CWinderKOAA [/URL]1h
DAY 13 OF THE DONTHE LUCAS MURDER TRIAL: We will more than likely start the day with listening to an interview from Pueblo police with Lucas from November 2017, a day after Lucas’ jailhouse interview with the same members from the Pueblo Police Department. @KOAA



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Good morning. Today in the #DontheLucas murder trial prosecutors are playing a 2nd audio recording of an interview between Detectives Cody Wager and Raymond Purvis with Lucas. This occurred November 15, 2017 a day after the jailhouse interview we heard yesterday.

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The detectives sound less patient with Lucas. They're asking pointed question about why he moved #KelsieSchelling 's car to Walmart, questions about the calls he made the night of her disappearance.

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Court is in recess at the moment. My colleague @CWinderKOAA was able to hear more of the tape than I was. I'll share his thread.

 

[Seattle1]

Colette Bordelon@ColetteBordelon

#BREAKING: An arrest has been made in connection with Roxann Martinez's murder, the woman who was set to testify in the #DontheLucas trial (who's accused of killing #KelsieSchelling eight years ago). Emmanuel Chandler turned himself in late last night.
@KOAA





10:20 AM · Mar 5, 2021·

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@ColetteBordelon
The Denver Police say the murder appears to be related to domestic violence. They have previously said there is no connection between Martinez's murder, and the #DontheLucas trial.
@KOAA

10:21 AM · Mar 5, 2021

 

[Megnut]

Colette Bordelon@ColetteBordelon

#BREAKING: An arrest has been made in connection with Roxann Martinez's murder, the woman who was set to testify in the #DontheLucas trial (who's accused of killing #KelsieSchelling eight years ago). Emmanuel Chandler turned himself in late last night.
@KOAA





10:20 AM · Mar 5, 2021·

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@ColetteBordelon
The Denver Police say the murder appears to be related to domestic violence. They have previously said there is no connection between Martinez's murder, and the #DontheLucas trial.
@KOAA

10:21 AM · Mar 5, 2021

How is it possible that, in 2021, it still seems to be the case that, the most dangerous place for women to be is in relationships?

What can we do to raise our sons and daughters differently?

Too many horrifying headlines.

JMO

 

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Andy Koen @KOAAAndyKoen 12m
Okay, we're taking a lunch break. Court is in recess till 1:15. The jury heard the rest of the audio recording from the second PPD interview with #DontheLucas. Afterward, there were a few questions for Sgt. Wager from the prosecution. Defense has just started cross-examination.

Carl Winder KOAA @CWinderKOAA 2h
BREAK: Members of Pueblo police started playing the recording of the second interview with Donthe Lucas in Denver. Initially, police said that Lucas was right when he said he went from Canon National Bank to the south side Walmart on Feb. 5. @KOAA

Carl Winder KOAA [URL='https://twitter.com/CWinderKOAA']@CWinderKOAA [/URL]2h
Replying to @CWinderKOAA
A lot of these questions, Lucas said he either didn't know or was under the influence, since he said he did drugs and was drinking the night of Schelling's disappearance. @KOAA

Carl Winder KOAA @CWinderKOAA 2h
It was also brought up that the surprise Lucas mentioned in a text on Feb. 4 to Schelling was cocaine. @KOAA

 

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How is it possible that, in 2021, it still seems to be the case that, the most dangerous place for women to be is in relationships?

What can we do to raise our sons and daughters differently?

Too many horrifying headlines.

JMO

i think women do the choosing and they like their bad boys.

 

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Kasia Kerridge @KasiaKerridgeTV 21s
SCHELLING/LUCAS DAY 13: We listened to a second, hours-long interview between Pueblo police and Lucas days before he was ultimately arrested for Kelsie’s disappearance.

 

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We are nearing two weeks of actual trial time (it's day 13) for Donthe Lucas' case, accused of killing Kelsie Schelling. It's been an interesting morning, starting off with nearly an hour of closed court, followed by one of Lucas' interview with police. This was the second

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activity are not the same after 2:35 a.m. [Feb5]" Lucas replies " have my own phone, why would I need any one else's?" and the officer replies "The problem I'm having is if the phone is with out and texting other people and texting you but that didn't make sense because you are
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together." Officers also ask Lucas about the call Jessica Reeves (someone Lucas has known since middle school, but never knew Kelsie) got a call from Kelsie's phone at 3:53am. "It doesn'tmake sense because she didn't know Jessica" Lucas said to which the detective replied "But if

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[Kelsie's] dead and you have her phone and were trying to fool around with Jessica it makes sense." Late last week, Reeves testified that Lucas was sending her suggestive texts around Feb 10th. Still on the phones, invesitgators ask why Lucas's phone pinged near Beulah, or west

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is from. "We never went out there... I haven't been to Beulah since High School." Lucas says. "Both your phones are out west several miles out of town. the Detecive responds and continues "You tell me where the hell you were Donthe. You had your phone all night. She had her


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of the southside Landfill. This is interesting because when deputies were insinuating that Donthe's mother Sara killed Kelsie, Lucas brought up burying her in Beulah, with out it being brought up before. Beulah is also consistent with the area the soil on Kelsie's car's floormats
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poor kids on the east side of Pueblo and one for rich kids.Wager denies this. Defense also asked "You don't believe you lied to Mr. Lucas to get a result?" Wager, after a moment of hesitation answers no. Cross resumes after lunch

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the interview and in that, defense argues that just because a phone pings on a certain tower, it can't definitively tell exactly where a phone is. They also recall Det Wager saying Kelsie "ain't no hood rat from the east side" and ask if there is a separate justice system for

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phone all night.... You said you were on Sienna [near Grandma's house] and sure enough. Then the phone pings in Beulah" Officers are getting at here that Lucas recalls certain things specifically, but forgets others. We only got through a few minutes of cross examination on the

 

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Brandon Thompson [URL='https://twitter.com/BThompsonNews']@BThompsonNews [/URL]12m
We are nearing two weeks of actual trial time (it's day 13) for Donthe Lucas' case, accused of killing Kelsie Schelling. It's been an interesting morning, starting off with nearly an hour of closed court, followed by one of Lucas' interview with police. This was the second

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interview Lucas gave after he was arrested at DIA before he boarded a flight to Phoenix on a one-way trip. This interview was recorded on video so we get to see more of his demeanor. In the first interview, Lucas was fairly cooperative (though not directly answering questions)

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and he was also incredibly emotional. In the second interview, Lucas is less patient, more frustrated and more dismissive of deputies' questions and assertions. This interview came after the first (on Nov. 13, 2017) ended with deputies saying Lucas could still "minimize" the

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damage or consequences . Lucas said he was "tossing and turning" after that and called deputies to come back and they did on Nov. 14.Deputies say, based on the things Lucas said on the 13th that there are some things they need to clear up. While they do, they also bring up

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things not addressed the day before: Like more in depth cell phone records and locations. "Phone stuff shows the phone [Kelsie's] was with you for days and that evidence shows us when... you tell us all this stuff then it clocks out the moment we feel she died...her life and and

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activity are not the same after 2:35 a.m. [Feb5]" Lucas replies " have my own phone, why would I need any one else's?" and the officer replies "The problem I'm having is if the phone is with out and texting other people and texting you but that didn't make sense because you are

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together." Officers also ask Lucas about the call Jessica Reeves (someone Lucas has known since middle school, but never knew Kelsie) got a call from Kelsie's phone at 3:53am. "It doesn'tmake sense because she didn't know Jessica" Lucas said to which the detective replied "But if

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[Kelsie's] dead and you have her phone and were trying to fool around with Jessica it makes sense." Late last week, Reeves testified that Lucas was sending her suggestive texts around Feb 10th. Still on the phones, invesitgators ask why Lucas's phone pinged near Beulah, or west


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of the southside Landfill. This is interesting because when deputies were insinuating that Donthe's mother Sara killed Kelsie, Lucas brought up burying her in Beulah, with out it being brought up before. Beulah is also consistent with the area the soil on Kelsie's car's floormats

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is from. "We never went out there... I haven't been to Beulah since High School." Lucas says. "Both your phones are out west several miles out of town. the Detecive responds and continues "You tell me where the hell you were Donthe. You had your phone all night. She had her

Brandon Thompson @BThompsonNews 13m
phone all night.... You said you were on Sienna [near Grandma's house] and sure enough. Then the phone pings in Beulah" Officers are getting at here that Lucas recalls certain things specifically, but forgets others. We only got through a few minutes of cross examination on the

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the interview and in that, defense argues that just because a phone pings on a certain tower, it can't definitively tell exactly where a phone is. They also recall Det Wager saying Kelsie "ain't no hood rat from the east side" and ask if there is a separate justice system for

Brandon Thompson @BThompsonNews 13m
poor kids on the east side of Pueblo and one for rich kids.Wager denies this. Defense also asked "You don't believe you lied to Mr. Lucas to get a result?" Wager, after a moment of hesitation answers no. Cross resumes after lunch

 

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SCHELLING/LUCAS DAY 13 (1/2): For those of you wondering about the witness who was shot and killed, Denver PD posted an update this morning. The suspect turned himself in to DPD last night. Police say this homicide appears to be the result of a domestic violence-related incident.

We listened to a second, hours-long interview between Pueblo police and Lucas days before he was ultimately arrested for Kelsie’s disappearance.

For hours, Pueblo police and Lucas went back and forth in the interview. Police were trying to get any information out of Lucas they didn't know already, and pointed out where Lucas' story didn't line up. Lucas would respond that he didn't kill Kelsie.

 

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So is the trial over now just pending the verdict?

 

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So is the trial over now just pending the verdict?

No they just rested. The defense will present their witnesses and evidence starting Monday

 

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Screenshots of tweets from today

 

[Megnut]

If you didn't kill her, Donthe, were you THERE when she died? Who else was there? Violence? Overdose? Premeditated? Covered up? Did you have help?

JMO