Coronavirus Vaccine: Would you/did you get it? #2

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I went to the dermatologist on Thursday for what had started out as a red, itchy "rash" the week after my second Pfizer shot. I called for an appointment but had to wait three weeks to see the doctor. By the time I finally saw the dermatologist, the "rash" had changed into a cluster of skin tags that turned out to be seborrheic keratoses that I've had previously. The funky-looking growths are benign, but they tend to appear in clusters and can itch or become irritated by clothing. Dr. R immediately identified the cluster of about 20 nuisance growths on my neck , but I told him that they appeared about a week following my second Covid shot. He has seen patients who develop a severe rash at the site of their injections (Covid arm), but he didn't think that my new crop of seborrheic keratoses was related to the vaccination. Dr. R zapped all of the "skin tags" with liquid nitrogen, and did the same for another cluster on my right side. Instead of the funky growths, I now have two sets of bright red blister-like marks from the liquid nitrogen. The raised "polka dots" will eventually scab and fall off. Scarring is minimal.
 
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I had Pfizer vaccine with side effects of low temperature, body aches, tiredness and slight headache.

And to round back to the recall on graphene masks in Canada...I have blue masks white on the other side where I definitely had the experience of feeling and breathing in cat hair last year. I no longer have the boxes (two) which were purchased from different websites so don't know exactly what they are comprised of.
 
I should have clarified, though I thought it would be understood that I had all my childhood vaccines. As an adult who can choose, I never chose to get vaccinated for any reason.

Thank you for your answer. I wasn't trying to be nosy, but I just couldn't figure it out. I thought perhaps you attended private schools rather than public schools of maybe had a 'religious exemption'.

Religious exemptions must be a new thing. Nobody did that when I was a kid. :)
 
So I am U.K. based and I was desperate to get the jab but now in the U.K. the under-30s to be offered alternative to Oxford jab and I am early 30’s which means I still don’t get a choice which now means I’m not sure what I will do and a know a lot of my friends are saying the same.

So what because we are only a few years older we are deemed less important than under 30’s who now get a choice I think it’s farcical and completely undermines the Oxford jab. I won’t be pushed into get a less desirable jab because I’m not under 30. I have at least another month before I get a jab at the rate they are going so hopefully Moderna is here by then.
 
Even after being fully vaccinated, many still wrestle with a fear of catching Covid (nbcnews.com)

“I don’t want to be sitting in a movie theater with ‘patient zero’ of a variant that bucks the vaccine.”

Since the start of the pandemic, Kit Breshears has been terrified of catching the coronavirus. Getting vaccinated did not magically change that.

For the past 13 months, Breshears, 44, of Buffalo, Minnesota, has not stepped foot inside a store or restaurant, not even to pick up a takeout meal. Any visits with family and friends have been over Zoom.

When he received his second Covid-19 shot earlier this month, he felt relief, he said — but with the pandemic still ongoing, he has found it impossible to turn off his anxiety.

“My fear is that enough people are not going to get vaccinated, or they’re not going to get vaccinated in a timely fashion, and we end up getting a horrible variant that puts us right back to where we are,” Breshears, a communications director at a local university, said...
 
Thanks for sharing this article. I can understand how some might have some fears and doubts. This has been a horrific year and many more continue to get sick and die as I type.

I wondered how Mr Pirate and I would feel about it all post vaccinations. Being very scientific and “odds” minded, we looked at the numbers. We follow the rules, but we no longer fear Covid for ourselves any more than many of the other things that can happen to us.
That said I totally understand the reluctance and fear. This vaccine is not 100 percent and there is a risk of Covid.
 
I'm so glad to see that so many continue to get their vaccines! Always puts a smile on my face! But what's with the new video ads here? They just happen to be advising how to "mitigate your vaccine side effects" - is that just coincidental to this thread? My vaccine side effects were minimal but the side effects of unsolicited videos popping up everywhere? Yikes. o_O How do I turn them off?
 
Even after being fully vaccinated, many still wrestle with a fear of catching Covid (nbcnews.com)

“I don’t want to be sitting in a movie theater with ‘patient zero’ of a variant that bucks the vaccine.”

Since the start of the pandemic, Kit Breshears has been terrified of catching the coronavirus. Getting vaccinated did not magically change that.

For the past 13 months, Breshears, 44, of Buffalo, Minnesota, has not stepped foot inside a store or restaurant, not even to pick up a takeout meal. Any visits with family and friends have been over Zoom.

When he received his second Covid-19 shot earlier this month, he felt relief, he said — but with the pandemic still ongoing, he has found it impossible to turn off his anxiety.

“My fear is that enough people are not going to get vaccinated, or they’re not going to get vaccinated in a timely fashion, and we end up getting a horrible variant that puts us right back to where we are,” Breshears, a communications director at a local university, said...

I know how he feels: I have not changed my life style one little bit since becoming fully vaccinated. I have a good friend who is fully vaccinated. She is living a more normal life: she resumed playing cards with friends who have been vaccinated and she had dinner with a friend who was also fully vaccinated: of course no masks and indoors. The one thing that concerns me is that her daughter refuses to get vaccinated and my friend gets together with her daughter at her home. I am living my life at the moment like I didn't get the vaccine. I don't know when that will change. I am thinking of visiting with my friend (where I used to work), after she gets her 2nd
shot. It is really difficult to get back to some semblance of a normal life, even after becoming fully vaccinated.
 
Thanks for sharing this article. I can understand how some might have some fears and doubts. This has been a horrific year and many more continue to get sick and die as I type.

I wondered how Mr Pirate and I would feel about it all post vaccinations. Being very scientific and “odds” minded, we looked at the numbers. We follow the rules, but we no longer fear Covid for ourselves any more than many of the other things that can happen to us.
That said I totally understand the reluctance and fear.
This vaccine is not 100 percent and there is a risk of Covid.

I don't think DH or I are as paranoid about Covid as we were during the early months of the pandemic, but even though we've been vaccinated, we will not compromise our health in any way. We will continue to wear masks in venues where they are required and won't go into any facility that does not require masks. We will go to restaurants that have strict protocols regarding masks and social distancing. We will continue to limit shopping to weekly groceries and infrequent trips to pharmacy. I can't imagine going to a mall in the foreseeable future and will shop online if I need something.

We had always planned to travel more once DH retired, but neither of us has any desire to fly, cruise, or stay at a resort in the near future. At this juncture, we're not sure that we'd even feel safe at an outdoor ballgame, and it will take some time to feel confident about being indoors at a hockey game, ballet, concert, opera, or theatrical production. We don't want to live in constant fear of Covid, but it will be a while before we're confident to live freely as we did before 2020.
 
“As of 6 a.m. EDT April 24, a total of 93,078,040 Americans had been fully vaccinated, or 28 percent of the country's population, according to the CDC's data.”

States ranked by percentage of population fully vaccinated: April 25.

The current top 3 states fully vaccinated (percentage of population)
Maine
Connecticut
New Mexico

The current bottom 3 states fully vaccinated (percentage of populaton)
Utah
Georgia
Alabama
 
Great: You will feel so happy knowing you are fully protected- hopefully your side effects will be minimal
Thanks - I do feel giddy! The sore arm is starting and I'm prepared for flu-like symptoms, though I hope I don't get them of course.

After the vaccine, I stopped by the grocery store. A woman was in there doing outreach, letting people know there was a pop-up vaccine site nearby taking walk-ins. I was pulling a bottle of ginger ale from the shelf when she approached me. I told her I just got the 2nd shot and was getting ginger ale in case I didn't feel well later. We both had a laugh over that (under masks, socially distant, lol). People are in a good mood about the vaccine and that good mood sure feels....well, good.

For dose #1, I waited in a long line that went down the block. Today I walked right in with no line and there were about twice as many people administering shots this time. I went to a big center run by the city. Super efficient, friendly. Jovial mood in the place.

We're moving ahead, people. :)
 
<modsnip: Quoted post was removed> .. here is a CDC page about the safety of Covid vaccines that's worth reading. I pasted in most of the article below, and I used red font below for emphasis. I am confident in the facts as presented. I hope this information is helpful.
COVID-19 Vaccination

What you need to know
  • COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective.
  • Millions of people in the United States have received COVID-19 vaccines under the most intense safety monitoring in U.S. history.
  • CDC recommends you get a COVID-19 vaccine as soon as you are eligible.
Millions of people have safely received a COVID-19 vaccine
Over 211 million doses of COVID-19 vaccine were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through April 19, 2021.

COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective. COVID-19 vaccines were evaluated in tens of thousands of participants in clinical trials. The vaccines met FDA’s rigorous scientific standards for safety, effectiveness, and manufacturing quality needed to support emergency use authorization (EUA).

Millions of people in the United States have received COVID-19 vaccines, and these vaccines will undergo the most intensive safety monitoring in U.S. history. This monitoring includes using both established and new safety monitoring systems to make sure that COVID-19 vaccines are safe.

Results are reassuring
Results from monitoring efforts are reassuring. Some people have no side effects. Others have reported common side effects after COVID-19 vaccination like
  • swelling, redness and pain at injection site,
  • fever,
  • headache,
  • tiredness,
  • muscle pain,
  • chills,
  • and nausea.
These reactions are common. A small number of people have had a severe allergic reaction (called “anaphylaxis”) after vaccination, but this is extremely rare. If this occurs, vaccination providers have medicines available to effectively and immediately treat the reaction.

After you get a COVID-19 vaccine, you will be asked to stay for 15–30 minutes so you can be observed in case you have a severe allergic reaction and provided treatment in the rare case it is needed.

Long-term side effects are unlikely
Serious side effects that would cause a long-term health problem are extremely unlikely following COVID-19 vaccination. Long-term side effects following any vaccination are extremely rare. Vaccine monitoring has historically shown that if side effects are going to happen, they generally happen within six weeks of receiving a vaccine dose. For this reason, the Food and Drug Administration required each of the authorized COVID-19 vaccines to be studied for at least two months (eight weeks) after the final dose. Millions of people have received COVID-19 vaccines, and no long-term side effects have been detected. CDC continues to closely monitor COVID-19 vaccines. If scientists find a connection between a safety issue and a vaccine, FDA and the vaccine manufacturer will work toward an appropriate solution to address the specific safety concern (for example, a problem with a specific lot, a manufacturing issue, or the vaccine itself).

Help protect yourself and others by getting vaccinated
COVID-19 vaccination and following CDC recommendations on wearing masks and social distancingare the best ways to protect against COVID-19 illness. CDC recommends you get vaccinated for COVID-19 as soon as you are eligible.

CDC, FDA, and other federal partners will continue to monitor the safety of COVID-19 vaccines as they continue to become more broadly used in the population.
 
I'm so glad we have this thread, because so many of you have such interesting and informative things to add.

Personally I've never been afraid of vaccines. If anyone else here is my age or more, (I'm 63), then we can all look at our big round smallpox scar on our upper arm and be grateful that smallpox was eradicated. I don't remember getting that shot, but I do remember as a young girl I drank some pink concoction which turned out to be the Sabin polio vaccine. Smallpox is gone and polio is much less common in America. None of us spent our childhood in an iron lung. Mump, measles, rubella etc....vaccines. This is another vaccine. It is here to save the day.

As @dmac55 said, it is Astra-Zeneca, not J&J, which has components from chimps. Astra-Zeneca is not approved here in America.

As @ilovewings said, the mRNA technology has been worked on for a decade by scientists toiling away in obscurity. It was brought to the forefront as Covid ravaged the world. It's another medical advance and only seems "rushed" because the general public was unaware of the work that had been going on, and also because so many scientists around the globe focused their work on a singular disease at the same time. The notion that schools would forbid teachers who are vaccinated to come to school is medieval thinking.

As @MrX mentioned that it is unlikely we would have a vaccine passport, we do have one in NY, called the Excelsior Pass. There are plenty of people who don't want it as they are afraid of tracking, and I'm a bit squeamish about that as well, but it's voluntary.

So, IMO MOO JMO---@anonymiss, you mentioned people you know who have had bad short term effects. I only wish that my friends who died, drowned lungs gasping on ventilators, no family allowed, no funeral after, could have suffered a day or two of fever, chills, headache, muscle ache and then arisen from a sickbed instead of a deathbed.

I imagine all the plagues in history, The Black Death, Plague of Justinian, all of them. Hundreds of millions dead when the world population was much lower. They didn't know about germs, bacteria, and fleas and unwashed hands. When the occasional doctor, like Lister, came to understand these things they were treated like crackpots. Dr. Snow in London actually had to have a pump handle broken because people kept dying of cholera from filthy water. We are educated people now. No one wants to be the literal one in a million who dies from J&J but neither do we want to be the one who dies in a car accident on the way to get it, which is far more likely. If ancient people, dying of bacterial infections, could have understood that hygiene would have saved them, they may have shunned it anyway. Hygiene was difficult to achieve without running water in a home. We owe a debt to those who came before us. If Fleming hadn't accidentally left the cover off a Petri dish, maybe we wouldn't have antibiotics.

My grandfather died of tuberculosis when my father was three. He's 88 now and still feels the pain of growing up with no father. if only there had been the TB tine back then.

I believe future generations will look back on mRNA as another miracle step in public health.

Finally, I haven't changed my ways much. I'm not ready, especially to eat indoors or go on a plane. But I feel MUCH safer.
 
It's behind a paywall, but having read similar stories, it seems like they are in a tough spot. People who are resistant to getting the vaccine read that and say "if I need to keep wearing a mask, then the vaccine doesn't really work, so why bother." I suspect the only way to reach everyone is with some sort of vaccine passport required to get into bars, concerts, casinos, etc. And that seems unlikely to happen.

Sorry about that. I was logged in to NYT when I copied the article. It's a shame that so many people are reluctant to get vaccinated as it is likely the only way that life can return to some semblance of normalcy. I share your doubts about a vaccine passport - medical information should remain private.
 
Do I need a mask outdoors? CDC says certain activities are safe for fully vaccinated people (nbcnews.com)

It's unclear how much the new guidance will change people's behavior, experts say.

Outdoor activities are safe without masks — regardless of whether a person is vaccinated — as long as people are either alone or with immediate family members, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Tuesday. And fully vaccinated people can gather safely outdoors without masks in small groups.

The new guidance is part of an update from the agency on what activities are safest for Americans, depending on whether they are fully vaccinated; that is, those who are two weeks out from their last dose of Covid-19 vaccine.

People who are fully vaccinated should also feel comfortable without face coverings outside with other small groups when it's unclear whether others have had their shots...

CDC says many Americans can now go outside without a mask (detroitnews.com)

CDC: Fully vaccinated can go outside without mask (clickondetroit.com)

CDC guidance says fully vaccinated or not, people don’t have to wear masks outdoors alone or with members of their household
 
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I'm so glad we have this thread, because so many of you have such interesting and informative things to add.

Personally I've never been afraid of vaccines. If anyone else here is my age or more, (I'm 63), then we can all look at our big round smallpox scar on our upper arm and be grateful that smallpox was eradicated. I don't remember getting that shot, but I do remember as a young girl I drank some pink concoction which turned out to be the Sabin polio vaccine. Smallpox is gone and polio is much less common in America. None of us spent our childhood in an iron lung. Mump, measles, rubella etc....vaccines. This is another vaccine. It is here to save the day.

As @dmac55 said, it is Astra-Zeneca, not J&J, which has components from chimps. Astra-Zeneca is not approved here in America.

As @ilovewings said, the mRNA technology has been worked on for a decade by scientists toiling away in obscurity. It was brought to the forefront as Covid ravaged the world. It's another medical advance and only seems "rushed" because the general public was unaware of the work that had been going on, and also because so many scientists around the globe focused their work on a singular disease at the same time. The notion that schools would forbid teachers who are vaccinated to come to school is medieval thinking.

As @MrX mentioned that it is unlikely we would have a vaccine passport, we do have one in NY, called the Excelsior Pass. There are plenty of people who don't want it as they are afraid of tracking, and I'm a bit squeamish about that as well, but it's voluntary.

So, IMO MOO JMO---@anonymiss, you mentioned people you know who have had bad short term effects. I only wish that my friends who died, drowned lungs gasping on ventilators, no family allowed, no funeral after, could have suffered a day or two of fever, chills, headache, muscle ache and then arisen from a sickbed instead of a deathbed.

I imagine all the plagues in history, The Black Death, Plague of Justinian, all of them. Hundreds of millions dead when the world population was much lower. They didn't know about germs, bacteria, and fleas and unwashed hands. When the occasional doctor, like Lister, came to understand these things they were treated like crackpots. Dr. Snow in London actually had to have a pump handle broken because people kept dying of cholera from filthy water. We are educated people now. No one wants to be the literal one in a million who dies from J&J but neither do we want to be the one who dies in a car accident on the way to get it, which is far more likely. If ancient people, dying of bacterial infections, could have understood that hygiene would have saved them, they may have shunned it anyway. Hygiene was difficult to achieve without running water in a home. We owe a debt to those who came before us. If Fleming hadn't accidentally left the cover off a Petri dish, maybe we wouldn't have antibiotics.

My grandfather died of tuberculosis when my father was three. He's 88 now and still feels the pain of growing up with no father. if only there had been the TB tine back then.

I believe future generations will look back on mRNA as another miracle step in public health.

Finally, I haven't changed my ways much. I'm not ready, especially to eat indoors or go on a plane. But I feel MUCH safer.

Great post! Thank you.
 
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