Systran online translation of the following article:
https://debater.gr/ellada/to-debate...-igias-pou-kei-ton-bampi-anagnostopoulou/amp/
(He/she pronouns are wrong in places, but we can deal with it...)
Tuesday 27 July 2021, 11:09
From DEBATER NEWSROOM
Babis Anagnostopoulos: New revelations see the "light" of publicity regarding the case that has shocked the Greek and concerns the murder of Caroline Crouch.
The mental health counselor, whom the couple visited to talk about their relationship with, is shocked by the evidence she filed before the investigator and revealed what was happening to the couple's relationship and what Caroline had confided to her when they were alone.
What reveals about the first acquaintance:
Eleni Mylonopoulou in her testimony says the couple had submitted their interest through a platform to do sessions with her. She contacted them, but they did not respond. After a while, Babis Anagnostopoulos contacted her apologizing for not picking up the phone as their baby was crying. They arranged a rendezvous which took place on 17 November 2020 and appeared in the office with their baby in the cart. When he met the 32-year-old pilot, he was calm and kind and told her how much he loves his wife and explained to her that the reason they visit her is because Caroline's hormones caused her feelings of sorrow and depressed lotions. Caroline remained silent on his side, according to the adviser. Caroline was left alone with the counselor after a while, and she reported being sent away in tears; after speaking for a moment, Caroline burst into tears again, revealing that she wants to leave her marriage, that she has no sexual relations with her husband, but loves him. Caroline revealed to her mental health counselor that she is in love with Babis Anagnostopoulos but dislikes him.
What does he say about meeting Babis and Caroline:
Eleni Mylonopoulou talks about the couple's acquaintance and reveals:
“They met on a Good Friday, probably the year 2016, from what I remember without being sure, when some events were taking place in the run-up to Easter in Alonissos. Caroline was in the Scouts and was tasked with the location of the mayor's offices and Charalambos had taken some officials to the island in a helicopter and was himself invited by the mayor. When Charalambos went to the VIP venue, Caroline told him it was only for the officials, and he smiled at her. This was the couple's first acquaintance and then the meetings began.
“Babis had sessions to talk about Caroline's nerves”
In her statement, the health counselor reports that Babis Anagnostopoulos has been having sessions to report on Caroline's nerves.
“He had sessions with me in order to talk about Caroline's nerves and find ways to deal with these conditions, not to diagnose his own psychism.” At the same time he says:
“Each of the couple described their lives differently. Caroline, for her part, said that she felt trapped in this relationship, that she was constantly engaged with the child without any help, that she could not go somewhere alone, even if she dated a friend of hers, after a while Haralambos went along, that her movements were made with a particular taxi driver, a friend of Haralambos, and that she never had money on her after she had Babis was in charge of financial management. Even the money contributed by her parents each month was not managed by her but by Charalambos. Caroline was a social and active person who had always wanted to deal with things but was deprived of them in the way she lived them. He said that because he had a hobby for pastry, he wanted to go to a school and he was thinking as soon as the child turned 2 to complete her studies at the University of Piraeus.The issue with the studies Haralambos treated it superficially positively, but his actions, such as staying in the Sweet Waters, do not suggest to his positive approach to the issue.
In fact, the health adviser also talks about Portugal by saying:
"Caroline's parents knew Babis Anagnostopoulos but did not know what he had to do with their daughter... Caroline had told them she would go on holiday to Portugal and not the real reason why they would go. The couple had chosen to keep away people from their relatives. This was because Babis wanted to create in Caroline the image of a fairy tale and have it in a pink balloon, isolated from others in order to manipulate it.
He wanted to know what they were saying in their sessions:
Eleni Mylonopoulou says:
“He was asking to know what we were talking about in the sessions with Caroline, something I never told him. And he wanted to settle the fuss in the house that existed with Caroline's nerves. Having understood Caroline's relationship with Haralambos, I was trying to calm the situation down and I was telling him that he is older and that he should step back. On the other hand, I was trying to calm Caroline down and I was telling her that if she really wanted to leave the house, she would have to organize it and inform her folks, but she didn't want to hear, saying she was in love with Charalambos. I also told her and stressed that it is not right and even dangerous to threaten with fighting the Haralmapo that he will take the child and leave. Caroline was a very close person and many times she wouldn't tell me the same things but she wanted to guide me to tell her myself and ask her myself.
And he cites some examples of how it worked:
"When the couple had no sexual relations, for at least two months, before November 2020, I had asked her if there is any deviant behavior that prevents her from having anything to do with Charalambos there she never answered. Also in December 2020, the couple canceled their appointment twice, as Haralambos had told me that a heated argument had preceded them and the session could not be held. When I saw Caroline I asked her if there was physical violence, and what happened to Haralmapo, she would not answer me. In general, Caroline was afraid of what she would say to me, and many times during her sessions she would ask me if the doors were closed or if we were heard in the living room where Haralambos was sitting with the child; a typical example of the couple's relationship with each other is that although Caroline hated Bambi, and she did not want sex with him, they still slept in the same bed and even Caroline slept on his chest“.
She states in her testimony that everything was in Babis's hands and that she could not do anything without him knowing.
Caroline was opposed to Babes' parents:
Caroline had confided to her health counselor that they had found a plot in Dione to build their house, but her counselor told her that it was a far-off area from Piraeus and that it would be difficult to continue her studies.
At another session, Caroline told Babis' parents adviser.
"In another session I realized Caroline's opposition to Haralabou's parents. She pointed out to me why her parents should always give more than Babis' parents and especially why should her parents give 55,000 euros for the plot and the house while Charalambos' parents would give only 30,000 euros, choosing a lot of money that passed from their hands to spend on trips "... . "She was also annoyed that the house would belong to Charalambos because in his name the loan would come out but I had pointed out to her that she too will have rights at home since it is an asset acquired during the marriage". "Moreover Caroline did not want Babis's parents to see the child and in fact the only time they saw the child was when he came out of his intensive care maternity and before they took it home, which gave them the opportunity to see their grandchild for five minutes in a parish outside the maternity hospital“.
"I had told her this is not right" as she stated in her statement and she continued saying "And they asked if Haralambos agrees with this attitude and she told me that Haralambos does what he says and is independent of his parents. Haralambos had confirmed to me that they were not related to his parents and I understood that he knew Caroline's opinion about them and had chosen himself not to have special relations with his parents."
"She had asked Caroline if Babis was pressuring her to ask her parents for money, and she neither confirmed it to me nor denied it to me though."
Why did they stop the sessions:
Caroline began opening during the sessions, and as reported by the board between November 2020 and February 2021, Caroline was losing her sparkle. Caroline had fears about the pilot's job, as revealed by Eleni Mylonopoulou, and when asked if she was afraid of a third person, the 20-year-old did not answer her. Early February 2021, Caroline sent her a sms which she said: "Thank you so much I already feel much better, I want to interrupt the sessions."
"I was intuitive, and because Caroline never communicated with me personally, I thought Haralambos had sent the message," the adviser says. "I think the reason why the sessions stopped is that in a fight Caroline told Babis that she has expressed to me her fears about the house, the job, the third person."
The threats on the phone:
According to Eleni Mylonopoulou, after her first statement to the police, on May 13, she received a phone call from an audience known to her with Babis Anagnostopoulos and asked if she has been invited to testify to the authorities. He says, he replied that they have not called - something that he had met with the police - and allegedly told her the common knowledge that Babis Anagnostopoulos has given the police everyone's evidence and that they would be called.
Babis Anagnostopoulos phoned her when her name was revealed to the media and asked if she was called by the police while allegedly telling her that the police are good guys,
As she describes in her testimony on May 22-23, she received threatening phone calls from classified numbers where a man told her:
” I will kill you, you are finished, you are finished if you don't do what you have to do”.
The pilot contacted her and asked her to have a session together after Caroline's funeral so she could manage his grief.
When the session took place, the health counselor was impressed that Babis was not looking her in the eye and that he had his eyes lowered, and was not referring to Caroline by her name.
