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Some notes about Part 2, 7News Investigates: The Disappearance of William Tyrrell (link goes to 7Plus which only works if you have an account and are in Australia, I think):
Former friend of FA, "Steve":
- FA got his pension on Thursday 11 Sep 2014 (the day before William went missing) and remembers where he was that day (Thursday) and that he'd stayed at his friend Ray's place that night. FA's phone shows no movement for three days after that.
- Ray P was FA's best friend. By 2014, RP was frail and "obviously" dying from a kidney infection. RP went to dialysis at Port Macquarie Hospital from 9am to 3pm on Friday 12 Sep 2014. According to Steve, FA might have driven RP to hospital in RP's car for the 9am start before going to Kendall with a plan of petty theft at FGM's, an idea which possibly might have occurred because his friend GO had previously done a quote to repair the deck there.
- RP had a white station wagon with "dress mags"[?] which Steve had put on the car for him. When police showed Steve a photo sketch of cars as remembered by FFC, the white one was identical to Ray's - a "100% exact match". (The image used by the program wasn't shown very long but I think it was different to the one on 60 Minutes and the other one on 7 News: see thread 41, post 924)
- FA claimed that he couldn't drive, but that was a lie. FA also claimed to have never been in Benaroon Drive, but he told Steve about specific entrances and exits to the road, and also knew about a traffic camera near Kendall.
- Highway CCTV shows RP's car on the highway the day after William went missing. RP made a confession about "my fishing mate" (FA) and the little boy "from the TV" or "off the telly" and driving 300 kilometres north to Casino.
- When police visited Steve to get some background information on FA, they said FA was "the No.1 prime suspect".
- In 2017 at the District Court in Sydney, FA was convicted for molestation of multiple children and sentenced to 16 years in prison. Steve to FA: "Did you do this?" FA: "Never. Never touched them." Steve thinks FA is a "master liar" who always says it's somebody else's fault. Steve was shocked at the sentence because the average for that sort of offence would be about 6 years (something that is "common knowledge" on the internet, he said).
Host of the show, Caroline Overington: FA had a son, Darren, who died when he was three years old. There was an inquest, but the finding is marked "Top Secret".
Former homicide detective, Steve Ticehurst, was involved in the re-investigation of the murder of Helen Harrison decades after she was raped and murdered in 1968. She had worked in Pitt Town. FA had worked in Pitt Town. Helen's body had been buried in a shallow grave and her bicycle had been dumped 20 kilometres away. Steve Ticehurst believed FA was guilty, but the court found otherwise.
Profiler and former NSW Police Force detective, Kris Illingsworth, thinks the offender in William's case likely had years of experience and practice; they probably "flipped" into predatory mode while watching William play, doing a risk assessment then moving quickly, with enough self-control to not make a scene. She thinks they acted with "boldness, skill, and cunning": they assessed the risk of being seen; worked out William's pattern of behaviour; knew an escape route (she thinks they would have had their car ready to exit) and were likely to have criminal experience.
- A "random snatch" is the rarest crime.
- She thinks the crime will be solved.
Formerly with Australian Federal Police, Grant Edwards, says that offenders who trade children as commodities look for vulnerabilities.
William's bio grandmother thinks there's no chance William is still alive.
William's sister was the last person to see him alive.
According to Caroline Overington (? I think), police would have investigated five scenarios:
- William got lost and was not found;
- an accident occurred at the house and the foster parents covered it up;
- the birth family kidnapped William and took him back;
- an accident occurred with the neighbours and they covered it up;
- abduction by an opportunistic paedophile (and this is the only scenario covered in this show)
Profiler, Kris Illingsworth:
- doesn't think BS or PS were involved but they had to be eliminated.
- washing machine repairman, BS, publicly targetted by police, was harassed and abused and felt that his was life ruined. His solicitor Peter O'Brien is suing NSW Police Force for malicious prosecution. BS's alibi, which police had not checked, was revealed at the inquest four years later. (The show claims to be "the first time you'll hear the whole story from him" but the ABC did a program two years ago: Person of Interest, Four Corners, Nov 2019)
- Kris Illingsworth thinks that PS's behaviour would have raised some red flags for detectives and he would have been of interest because of proximity to where William was last seen, being "the closest neighbour who was home that day". There was no evidence found to implicate him.
- Barrister, Margaret Cunneen, who has known Gary Jubelin for 30 years, thinks he is "a force of nature"; she thinks that being appointed to lead Strike Force Rosann would have been a difficult job because the investigation had already been running for five months.
- Former Deputy Commissioner of NSW Police, Nick Kaldas, also a friend of Gary Jubelin, thinks that as the years rolled on Jubelin would have been feeling more pressure.
Caroline Overington says the coroner has not ruled anyone in or out.
Former friend of FA, "Steve":
- FA got his pension on Thursday 11 Sep 2014 (the day before William went missing) and remembers where he was that day (Thursday) and that he'd stayed at his friend Ray's place that night. FA's phone shows no movement for three days after that.
- Ray P was FA's best friend. By 2014, RP was frail and "obviously" dying from a kidney infection. RP went to dialysis at Port Macquarie Hospital from 9am to 3pm on Friday 12 Sep 2014. According to Steve, FA might have driven RP to hospital in RP's car for the 9am start before going to Kendall with a plan of petty theft at FGM's, an idea which possibly might have occurred because his friend GO had previously done a quote to repair the deck there.
- RP had a white station wagon with "dress mags"[?] which Steve had put on the car for him. When police showed Steve a photo sketch of cars as remembered by FFC, the white one was identical to Ray's - a "100% exact match". (The image used by the program wasn't shown very long but I think it was different to the one on 60 Minutes and the other one on 7 News: see thread 41, post 924)
- FA claimed that he couldn't drive, but that was a lie. FA also claimed to have never been in Benaroon Drive, but he told Steve about specific entrances and exits to the road, and also knew about a traffic camera near Kendall.
- Highway CCTV shows RP's car on the highway the day after William went missing. RP made a confession about "my fishing mate" (FA) and the little boy "from the TV" or "off the telly" and driving 300 kilometres north to Casino.
- When police visited Steve to get some background information on FA, they said FA was "the No.1 prime suspect".
- In 2017 at the District Court in Sydney, FA was convicted for molestation of multiple children and sentenced to 16 years in prison. Steve to FA: "Did you do this?" FA: "Never. Never touched them." Steve thinks FA is a "master liar" who always says it's somebody else's fault. Steve was shocked at the sentence because the average for that sort of offence would be about 6 years (something that is "common knowledge" on the internet, he said).
Host of the show, Caroline Overington: FA had a son, Darren, who died when he was three years old. There was an inquest, but the finding is marked "Top Secret".
Former homicide detective, Steve Ticehurst, was involved in the re-investigation of the murder of Helen Harrison decades after she was raped and murdered in 1968. She had worked in Pitt Town. FA had worked in Pitt Town. Helen's body had been buried in a shallow grave and her bicycle had been dumped 20 kilometres away. Steve Ticehurst believed FA was guilty, but the court found otherwise.
Profiler and former NSW Police Force detective, Kris Illingsworth, thinks the offender in William's case likely had years of experience and practice; they probably "flipped" into predatory mode while watching William play, doing a risk assessment then moving quickly, with enough self-control to not make a scene. She thinks they acted with "boldness, skill, and cunning": they assessed the risk of being seen; worked out William's pattern of behaviour; knew an escape route (she thinks they would have had their car ready to exit) and were likely to have criminal experience.
- A "random snatch" is the rarest crime.
- She thinks the crime will be solved.
Formerly with Australian Federal Police, Grant Edwards, says that offenders who trade children as commodities look for vulnerabilities.
William's bio grandmother thinks there's no chance William is still alive.
William's sister was the last person to see him alive.
According to Caroline Overington (? I think), police would have investigated five scenarios:
- William got lost and was not found;
- an accident occurred at the house and the foster parents covered it up;
- the birth family kidnapped William and took him back;
- an accident occurred with the neighbours and they covered it up;
- abduction by an opportunistic paedophile (and this is the only scenario covered in this show)
Profiler, Kris Illingsworth:
- doesn't think BS or PS were involved but they had to be eliminated.
- washing machine repairman, BS, publicly targetted by police, was harassed and abused and felt that his was life ruined. His solicitor Peter O'Brien is suing NSW Police Force for malicious prosecution. BS's alibi, which police had not checked, was revealed at the inquest four years later. (The show claims to be "the first time you'll hear the whole story from him" but the ABC did a program two years ago: Person of Interest, Four Corners, Nov 2019)
- Kris Illingsworth thinks that PS's behaviour would have raised some red flags for detectives and he would have been of interest because of proximity to where William was last seen, being "the closest neighbour who was home that day". There was no evidence found to implicate him.
- Barrister, Margaret Cunneen, who has known Gary Jubelin for 30 years, thinks he is "a force of nature"; she thinks that being appointed to lead Strike Force Rosann would have been a difficult job because the investigation had already been running for five months.
- Former Deputy Commissioner of NSW Police, Nick Kaldas, also a friend of Gary Jubelin, thinks that as the years rolled on Jubelin would have been feeling more pressure.
Caroline Overington says the coroner has not ruled anyone in or out.
