Found Deceased CA - Maricela Garcia, 26, Reseda, 12 Jan 2017 #3

Hi. I haven't caught up yet with all the posts but I was shocked to see her thread active. My girl Mari!!
Can I answer any questions?, no one but me and a few Websleuths, ever seemed to really care what happened to her. Brenda did a couple of follow up pieces but if LAPD pretends she didn't exist, other people seem to forget she did....well, it's hard finding new information. I don't live there anymore but my best sleuthing buddy still lives in Reseda. A few more people are still around too.
We tried to follow everything but we only had so much power....and no surveillance footage. I have ZERO doubt, i KNOW that she and her killer were on camera. This was solvable and my heart hurts for my beautiful girl. LAPD was just not interested. They.didnt.care.

Carry on, didn't mean to interrupt. I feel like a nervous hostess...would anyone like a drink lol?
 
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No whatifs are needed really.
Maricela was previously kidnapped, forcefully drugged and kept hostage in some motel by her ex.
She had all the reasons to be terrified of him and his buddies. No idea if he or anyone from his crowd was trying to pimp her out or if any assaults happened, but those people are criminals now and were then. Dealing drugs, especially in LA area had to bring some ties to human trafficking at least for his dealer.

I personally don't see many similarities here.
Both cases are tragic, both women are of Mexican descent, both beautiful, same surname and both were struggling in life and lived in same general area, but it's not enough to draw a connection IMO. In LA area there is probably few dozens of thousands of people (mostly woman and girls) who are abused, stalked, terrorised and forced into prostitution. It's profitable to prey on vulnerable, and anyone could become or be turned vulnerable.

I don't know much about Californian attitude, but it's present pretty much everywhere that people accused of having mental issues or beind drug users are not seen as important as they're alive and even less so if they're ending up dead. Society needs comfort that distancing themselves by "oh, but they were crazy/homeless/drug users and I'm not". World is much safer to be seen this way.

Vanessa's son input doesn't matter as far as we're considering simply an existence of trafficking and forced sex work.
We can be 100% sure that it exists and is a huge business.
A prostutite working outside on her own will and not being forced, robbed and assaulted by members of some sort of organised crime is like a Yeti - many people, too many people believe that they exist and some claim that they saw one. Rarely any woman goes into this business by her own will and beating up, threatening, assaulting and terrorising kids, girls and woman are happening on every day basis.


Cause there would be likely multiple whitnesses to deal with if they'd try to abduct Maricela from her home, around there, or in the middle of the day. No whitnesses and apparently no surveillance around the Kaiser's then. That's the most likely answer.

As for Vanessa, it's pretty unusual way to commit suicide, especially for a woman. And just after noon?
Pretty odd. I wonder if some surveillance was checked to see if she was visible anywhere, going to the location with gasoline tank.
I wouldn't say that's impossible that she was in such despair and horror that she decided to rather die in such horrific circumstances than to surrender to her abusers, cause this is kinda exactly when people are driven to that. May be bit less likely but also possible that she was forced to do this.
Most likely we will never know what exactly happened to her.
Its pretty obvious that if they tried to abduct her from her home its risky but a great disguise can help a lot so can a stolen license plate and a stolen car. With Rosa they used her money and made her destitute. So she was in a desperate situation. With Maricela she could have gotten away by asking help at the church but she didn't. It may have been a blackmail situation as in Rosa's situation. As her son said they were relentless. I see that as a similarity in Maricela's situation. Plus it appears they took her from the dumpster area at Kaiser so she was cornered. Its pretty bold to do that so they wanted to take her for some reason. By the boldness I mean that there were different classes being held in the Kaiser building, a lot of cars were parked there in the parking lot. Granted it is behind the dumpster, but someone could see something unusual. So yeah there are similarities IMO. Just the boldness alone plus the relentless pursuit (being done discreetly in Maricela's case but it appeared as though that was what was going on as she wanted her sister to be safe.)
 
Its pretty obvious that if they tried to abduct her from her home its risky but a great disguise can help a lot so can a stolen license plate and a stolen car. With Rosa they used her money and made her destitute. So she was in a desperate situation. With Maricela she could have gotten away by asking help at the church but she didn't. It may have been a blackmail situation as in Rosa's situation. As her son said they were relentless. I see that as a similarity in Maricela's situation. Plus it appears they took her from the dumpster area at Kaiser so she was cornered. Its pretty bold to do that so they wanted to take her for some reason. By the boldness I mean that there were different classes being held in the Kaiser building, a lot of cars were parked there in the parking lot. Granted it is behind the dumpster, but someone could see something unusual. So yeah there are similarities IMO. Just the boldness alone plus the relentless pursuit (being done discreetly in Maricela's case but it appeared as though that was what was going on as she wanted her sister to be safe.)
It's not clear if they took Maricela from the dumpster area.
It's not out of the range of possibilities that she was taken from the Kaiser's doorway on the other side and forcefully dragged/escorted/chased through that parking lot till she was cornered near those dumpsters, where the struggle occured and then she got (IMO) forcefully drugged and abducted.

We... well, at least I tend to assume that she most likely got there willingly, chatted with someone and then got surprised, ambushed, thrown into the car and abducted from there, likely drugged to make her easier to comply. But since no whitnesses, no surveillance, nothing really offers many details about that period of time it could unfold VERY differently.

I'd tend to think that type of boldness you're mentioning comes pretty much with any professional criminal activity.
Cases, perps don't need to be related to each other in any way.
Same area, same "lifestyle", same attitude from LE and same expectations from community likely means same/similar ways of dealing with vicims.

I dont think I ever heard anything about that parking lot being full of cars at the time when Maricela god abducted.
She may not have a reason to ask for help at the church. She was clearly in distress, but that followed her for quite some time as we know. I bet that at that point she either wasn't or didn't realised that she's in mortal danger yet... - that's if she saw those women at all. Cause I don't know the details about it, don't know how the church looks like inside and where those women were - it's not impossible that they got a chance to get a good look at Maricela but she haven't noticed them (either cause of the spot where they were or cause she was crying and assummed that she's all alone).

As for that:

By the boldness I mean that there were different classes being held in the Kaiser building, a lot of cars were parked there in the parking lot. Granted it is behind the dumpster, but someone could see something unusual. So yeah there are similarities IMO. Just the boldness alone plus the relentless pursuit (being done discreetly in Maricela's case but it appeared as though that was what was going on as she wanted her sister to be safe.)
That area is full of surveillance cameras. Everywhere at the mall's parking lot, nearby buissnesses, some city cameras on the traffic lights... none that I could spot behind Kaiser's but where is all that surveillance? Nowhere. Where are other whitnesses who met Maricela on that night? She had pretty memorable outfit, case got public relatively quickly, there is homeless people community in the area... and only those two women from church saw and remembered her?

I mean... it would be bold to kidnap a woman from the street like that having in mind all those things that could go "wrong" with it. Not so much with a criminal who's experience says that the risk that anyone will bother are slim to none.
 
Hi. I haven't caught up yet with all the posts but I was shocked to see her thread active. My girl Mari!!
Can I answer any questions?, no one but me and a few Websleuths, ever seemed to really care what happened to her. Brenda did a couple of follow up pieces but if LAPD pretends she didn't exist, other people seem to forget she did....well, it's hard finding new information. I don't live there anymore but my best sleuthing buddy still lives in Reseda. A few more people are still around too.
We tried to follow everything but we only had so much power....and no surveillance footage. I have ZERO doubt, i KNOW that she and her killer were on camera. This was solvable and my heart hurts for my beautiful girl. LAPD was just not interested. They.didnt.care.

Carry on, didn't mean to interrupt. I feel like a nervous hostess...would anyone like a drink lol?
I have some questions that I wasn't able to find answers to (sorry if I missed that).

What's up with all those surveillance cameras from behind the mall (I mean that building where there is a goodwill store and supermarket and so on): all broken at the time, not recording anything or it's unclear why nothing ever came of it?

This stunns me with no end, cause looking at the area and relying on the dog's account... it should be all on surveillance, at least 90% of her path should be easily accessible, since the exact time was known. Yet nothing? Did they bothered to offer some explanations for that?

Were those homeless people who lived near the church ever asked if they saw Maricela that evening or before?
Were rather dangerous/unpleasant people (those staying there) or just unfortunate and struggling financially - meaning the type she could meet around the church or at Kaiser's and be on good terms with? Cause I wonder: was there any chance that she run from the church towards the spot where they were staying (after spotting someone she feared "blocking" her way back to the mall) and decided to try to get help from them?
 
It's not clear if they took Maricela from the dumpster area.
It's not out of the range of possibilities that she was taken from the Kaiser's doorway on the other side and forcefully dragged/escorted/chased through that parking lot till she was cornered near those dumpsters, where the struggle occured and then she got (IMO) forcefully drugged and abducted.

We... well, at least I tend to assume that she most likely got there willingly, chatted with someone and then got surprised, ambushed, thrown into the car and abducted from there, likely drugged to make her easier to comply. But since no whitnesses, no surveillance, nothing really offers many details about that period of time it could unfold VERY differently.

I'd tend to think that type of boldness you're mentioning comes pretty much with any professional criminal activity.
Cases, perps don't need to be related to each other in any way.
Same area, same "lifestyle", same attitude from LE and same expectations from community likely means same/similar ways of dealing with vicims.

I dont think I ever heard anything about that parking lot being full of cars at the time when Maricela god abducted.
She may not have a reason to ask for help at the church. She was clearly in distress, but that followed her for quite some time as we know. I bet that at that point she either wasn't or didn't realised that she's in mortal danger yet... - that's if she saw those women at all. Cause I don't know the details about it, don't know how the church looks like inside and where those women were - it's not impossible that they got a chance to get a good look at Maricela but she haven't noticed them (either cause of the spot where they were or cause she was crying and assummed that she's all alone).

As for that:


That area is full of surveillance cameras. Everywhere at the mall's parking lot, nearby buissnesses, some city cameras on the traffic lights... none that I could spot behind Kaiser's but where is all that surveillance? Nowhere. Where are other whitnesses who met Maricela on that night? She had pretty memorable outfit, case got public relatively quickly, there is homeless people community in the area... and only those two women from church saw and remembered her?

I mean... it would be bold to kidnap a woman from the street like that having in mind all those things that could go "wrong" with it. Not so much with a criminal who's experience says that the risk that anyone will bother are slim to none.
Well, first of all it wasn't a street it was behind a dumpster it was dark. As Mitsvon said CCTV footage wasn't utilized. The dog traced Maricela to behind the dumpster so I believe that because the dog traced her last steps there and not anywhere else. As you may know the investigation could have been more indepth and it wasn't. Also as Mitsovan said it could have been solved. At Kaiser no one saw her because it was behind the dumpster which made itconvenient for the perps. Because LE viewed this case as a voluntary missing person case from the beginning and gradually let up with that notion it wasn''t that helpful so some things were overlooked by LE. As Rosa's son says these people are relentless so its not surprising that they are bold as well. I have nothing else to add here but it appears as if this what happened IMO.
 
Hi. I haven't caught up yet with all the posts but I was shocked to see her thread active. My girl Mari!!
Can I answer any questions?, no one but me and a few Websleuths, ever seemed to really care what happened to her. Brenda did a couple of follow up pieces but if LAPD pretends she didn't exist, other people seem to forget she did....well, it's hard finding new information. I don't live there anymore but my best sleuthing buddy still lives in Reseda. A few more people are still around too.
We tried to follow everything but we only had so much power....and no surveillance footage. I have ZERO doubt, i KNOW that she and her killer were on camera. This was solvable and my heart hurts for my beautiful girl. LAPD was just not interested. They.didnt.care.

Carry on, didn't mean to interrupt. I feel like a nervous hostess...would anyone like a drink lol?

I remember her always and think of her often. This was the case that brought me to Websleuths. Also remember you as her friend dedicating yourself to trying to help. You did your very best, the LE response was woeful.
 
Well, first of all it wasn't a street it was behind a dumpster it was dark. As Mitsvon said CCTV footage wasn't utilized. The dog traced Maricela to behind the dumpster so I believe that because the dog traced her last steps there and not anywhere else.
Are we talking about same place? Behind what dumpster? Near dumpsters. Behind Kaiser's.

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And it's not totally out of the range of possibility that she was actually taken/approached at Kaiser's doorstep and forcibly walked to the corner where dumpsters are. Like that:

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At least as far as I understand. And the actual dumpster corner looks like that:

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And this is how those dumpsters look like (from Sherman Way)

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And this is her last known location according to the dog.

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Not much of a chance that someone inside the Kaiser's building would be able to see anything going on in that corner. Cause it was dark, rainy night, parking is not that well lit and the distance is too great, not cause she was actually behind a dumpster.

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As you may know the investigation could have been more indepth and it wasn't. Also as Mitsovan said it could have been solved. At Kaiser no one saw her because it was behind the dumpster which made itconvenient for the perps. Because LE viewed this case as a voluntary missing person case from the beginning and gradually let up with that notion it wasn''t that helpful so some things were overlooked by LE. As Rosa's son says these people are relentless so its not surprising that they are bold as well. I have nothing else to add here but it appears as if this what happened IMO.

It's 100% not a case in which LE overlooked things and they were not looking at it as voluntary disappearance in the beginning. That excuse popped up later.

Not investigating it as possible and likely abduction does not count as "overlooking" things, it's criminal and no shortage of examples of that in LA area. There was nothing to indicate that she disappeared voluntarily from the point one. Possibility of that remained, but just slightly more probable than alien abduction.
 
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It's 100% not a case in which LE overlooked things and they were not looking at it as voluntary disappearance in the beginning. That excuse popped up later.

Not investigating it as possible and likely abduction does not count as "overlooking" things, it's criminal and no shortage of examples of that in LA area. There was nothing to indicate that she disappeared voluntarily from the point one. Possibility of that remained, but just slightly more probable than alien abduction.


I agree with much of your long previous post. But this^^ portion I do question.

I followed this case from the start, and as a local, I attended the group search. It was my understanding, from those I spoke with, that there were friends and family even, that thought she may have voluntarily run off that day.

And the police were uncertain themselves if it was foul -play or a voluntarily runaway. So I question your statement that it's 100% that police were not looking at it as a voluntary missing from the start. I believe they considered that a strong possibility from jump.

The police could not ignore that she seemingly walked away from her sister, on her own, with no kidnappers in sight, no visible force or intimidation present. Foul play may have been present but it did not seem that way at first, to some investigators.
 
I agree with much of your long previous post. But this^^ portion I do question.

I followed this case from the start, and as a local, I attended the group search. It was my understanding, from those I spoke with, that there were friends and family even, that thought she may have voluntarily run off that day.

And the police were uncertain themselves if it was foul -play or a voluntarily runaway. So I question your statement that it's 100% that police were not looking at it as a voluntary missing from the start. I believe they considered that a strong possibility from jump.

The police could not ignore that she seemingly walked away from her sister, on her own, with no kidnappers in sight, no visible force or intimidation present. Foul play may have been present but it did not seem that way at first, to some investigators.
"Because LE viewed this case as a voluntary missing person case from the beginning" was what I was talking about.

Considering voluntary disappearance as possibility (even reasonably probable possibility) means that the other avenues are considered and investigated as well. It's logical and reasonable to look at this angle (possible voluntary disappearance) when there are no clear signs of foul play.
And that is nowhere near investigating case as most likely voluntary disappearance, especially if it's like here, where all the clues point elsewhere.
First is just good investigating, second is negligence.

I was only exposed to media coverage of Maricela's disappearance. Starting from about week after and ending as coverage started to die out (even before she was found) and my impression was that voluntary disappearance was considered as possibility but not very probable possibility.
I'm aware that my impression, especially my almost six years old impression holds no value, but I understood is as something like "okay, we're so scared and confused that we're considering everything, even her disappearing by her own accord even thou we don't believe that's what happened".

It's still weird as hell to me. First few days, maybe even a whole week - then, in these circumstances it could be a distinct possibility from LE's viewpoint that she might disappeared voluntary. But days went on, no contact from her, nobody knows where she is, family going crazy with worry, many disturbing details are known - that's not when voluntary disappearance starts to look MORE probable, likelyness of this possibility drastically decreases, yet, investigators seemed to do the total opposite of that. WIth what reasons exactly? Publicly available info doesn't explain that.

They seemed moderately interested in the very beginning, not that much two weeks after, and almost not at all later. Why?
I see only two possibilities.
1. Negligence.
2. Being fed false info and relying on that feeling pretty confident that most probable scenario there was that nothing criminal happened, Maricela left on her own and the case isn't the highest priority.
But possibility 2. would mean that from the day she was found investigators would knew for sure that what made them believe that she left by her own accord was false and whoever fed them that info is now hella suspicious.
Nothing came of it, so five years later it looks like 1. not 2.

It was my understanding, from those I spoke with, that there were friends and family even, that thought she may have voluntarily run off that day.
And that excuse me, doesn't add up to me at all.

Unless it were some unconfirmed gossips or results of misunderstanding that unfortunately ended up repeated... it's extremely concerning.

What kind of wild lifestyle woman would have to live to, in these circumstances: suddenly abandoned sister, purse left behind, car left behind, two whitnesses seeing her storming out of the church crying, her phone turned off and no friend or family member with the slightest hint on where she could go + some scared enough to report her missing right away and go for group searches that involved locals still consider that she just left on her own?
And that with awareness that she was previously kidnapped, drugged and held hostage?

Even with the wildest lifestyle, that Maricela wasn't living, but EVEN WITH that lifestyle, what kind of friend or family member would publicly share their doubts about the missing person being endangered, possibly attacked and dragged somewhere, kidnapped or murdered?
No doubt some family members and friends were absolutely terrified by her disappearance. They had their reasons to feel like that. And Maricela was dead then. So those who thought that she may run away couldn't have any hidden knowledge or reasons to believe that she's fine but away. IF they had anything like that, it should lead straight to her murderer. It did not. So what the hell was their reason to think and not only think but SHARE those thoughts, causing community to lose interest in the case, sabotaging the effort of those concerned for Maricela? Just lack of concern, low thoughtfulness or maybe some connections to the crowd from where her ex and other dangerous people in her life came from?
 
I wonder about that secret she was "guarding". If that was indeed how she phrased that while confessing to her sister.

Just my speculations, since I can't really offer anything else.
But guarding a secret, keeping a secret... it strongly indicates that someone close to her was involved in this secret. So friend or family member. Some acquaintance might be, but to lose sleep over it, yet decide to wander alone on the dark parking lot seems significantly less likely. What is likely in my opinion that she was more bothered by the issue (the secret), than her safety - and not cause she didn't care about her safety, but cause she thought that it doesn't hold that much risk for her (at least before the late evening of January 12'th).

Someone has to know what the secret was and what happened to her. The person that she was guarding that secret for might not the same person/s responsible for her murder but surely knows who else would want to make sure that she won't speak up.
And her death to some degree looks accidental. Like whoever did it, may not have a plan to murder her or to do that right away, but forcibly drugging her caused her to die shortly after abduction.
 
So apparently I was wrong while looking for the exact body location and relying on the map provided early.

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I was assumming that was behind the fence where the red arrow point at, but apparently it was bit farther, and on the right side of the road.

This is even...

How it looks from the road:

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Yellow circles where the high voltage poles are

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So it looks like that:

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And this fence:

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Looks like it's literally the school baseball field corner

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And apparently she was dumped whole 100 yards from the road, very near the end of one of those dirt roads and paths (as those lines seem to be dirt roads)

Which means that she was found like... somewhere there:

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It's not only 20 miles from where she was last seen but at a spot that's not easily accessible from the road.
No idea if chains and yellow gate were there in 2017 but even if not, fromh this side it would be at 25 yards of carrying her uphill in the dark, if not 50.

Is it really so reasonable and probable to assume that with no ill intent some addict buddies decided to drive so far and drag her body uphill just to not be connected to her death that they had no involvement in?
Even with the assumption that she might go somewhere there willingly and OD'd close to the highshool it'd be still pretty crazy task to do.

To have that location as convenient dumping ground it had to be area very well known for the perp/s and accessed by the dirt roads, not from the highway.

It doesn't make sense. What kind of drugged nutcase would think that's a good idea to blindly drive around the obvious high school where all sorts of surveillance might be expected to dump a body, while the only motive behind it would be to not get in trouble by having their drug connections exposed?
Getting access from the other side and driving dirt roads sounds less crazy, but doing that in the rainy night and while scared of companion's sudden death?
Possible I guess, but come on, this is a bit too much effort.
On the other hand it looks like pretty reasonable effort for someone who had much more to hide than just the fact that they provided drugs or partied with a companion who accidentally OD'd in their presence. Like kidnapping or murder.

Was English second language for Maricela? I mean to the level where she would say that she's "guarding a secret" while meaning nothing more than just having a secret? If not it's not reasonable to assume that it was her secret and she was the only one concerned with it.
 
Hi. I haven't caught up yet with all the posts but I was shocked to see her thread active. My girl Mari!!
Can I answer any questions?, no one but me and a few Websleuths, ever seemed to really care what happened to her. Brenda did a couple of follow up pieces but if LAPD pretends she didn't exist, other people seem to forget she did....well, it's hard finding new information. I don't live there anymore but my best sleuthing buddy still lives in Reseda. A few more people are still around too.
We tried to follow everything but we only had so much power....and no surveillance footage. I have ZERO doubt, i KNOW that she and her killer were on camera. This was solvable and my heart hurts for my beautiful girl. LAPD was just not interested. They.didnt.care.

Carry on, didn't mean to interrupt. I feel like a nervous hostess...would anyone like a drink lol?

It’s so lovely to see you on here again. Her case has always bothered me. I hope all is well on your end!
 
I tried to scroll through the posts but never stumbled on anything specific about her necklace.
Is it known why she liked it so much? - just cause it was comfy and looked nice? connected to some treasured memory? a gift from someone? gift from herself for some achievement?

I guess no clear answer if it was indeed her choker so it may be a red herring but...

I'm not convinced by high likelyness of it being some random piece of fabric.
I'm doing amigurumi and diy jewelry pieces as a hobby for most of my life, I'm also a smoker and usually I'm smoking next to some trash can or dumpsters. And this statement made by some youtuber, back in 2017, that it could be just random piece of fabric kept resonating in my head for basically all that time. I don't know why but it did. It sounded so ridiculous to me then cause I didn't believe that some random piece of fabric could be mistaken with a satin or velour ribbon that was worn by someone as a choker type necklace for significant period of time.

1 - there is not that many pieces of clothing, accessory, packaging or decor that could look similar to ribbon from a necklace. Length, width, type of ribbon would likely not match well with a choker.
2 - if it was something else, then rain would not damage the sewing marks (as it would have if it was some shirt ornament or strap on a jacket), it would be possible to tell.
3 - wearing choker like that for long would likely mean that there would be some - for the lack of a better word "abbrasions" on the fabric where the pendant used to be.
4 - the endings of ripped choker would leave very specific marks on the fabric. If ends were connected as a bow on the neck, than it wouldn't be torn and not likely that it could be ripped of anyone's neck. If endings were glued in, then no ripping would be likely.
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This is the most popular solution for cheaper chokers, and necklace like that could be torn off somebody's neck in a way that both metal endings and the heart pendant would end up removed from the ribbon and cause some tearing on the ends.

Not once in my life I stumbled on piece of fabric like that trashed anywhere, and for sure not in the last five years. It doesn't mean that it couldn't happen but it's not that common.

Knowing if she was still wearing it would make all this thinking useless. As well as knowing if it was tested and what came of it. It's not so I can as well theorise that if it was indeed a part of her necklace that was torn off her neck during a struggle, then what it meant for her could be also the reason why her attacker wanted to take it away from her.

Unless... and that's something what I wasn't considering before, cause having in mind that she had no full time job and not that much money I kept assumming that it was cheap mystery metal choker. But was it?
Cause if it was very fancy velour ribbon finished with silver or gold, then it could be torn off her neck specifically to get that pendant for those couple bucks that it was worth if Maricela was expected to pay off some debt or robbed. But then what? "It's not enough, we're taking you too" and then forcibly fed drugs?
 
January 13th 2016 - Maricela is arrested on drug charges that are later dropped.
January 13th 2017 - Maricela disappears, longer she's gone, harder LE insist's on it being voluntary disappearance

Is there any significance to January 13th?
In 2016 it was Wednesday. In 2017 it was Friday.

It seems like a great thing to be seen as something bigger than it really is, but... is that the case?
I think that since she was patient at Kaiser's, then it's reasonably to assume that she was completing treatment.

But what's about January 13'th that she ended up arrested on that day and before the one year anniversary got so scared of something?
Maybe it's not about just the fact it was a year apart, but specifically on that day?
No holiday that I can find. Not much of a chance that she already completed her treatment and was up for celebrating or getting free.
Somebody's birthday? Some anniversary?

Was she the only one arrested? If not, maybe treatment was just a part of her plea and some lawyer was hired to prove that police don't have sufficient evidence, did illegal search or anything to that accord what made them reluctant to investigate her disappearance?
 
It wasn't putting much into it cause I kept assuming that whatever ended up with abduction happened much closer to the abduction but it doesn't make any sense.

It wasn't looking like voluntary disappearance. It wasn't like her. And she went missing on the exact one year anniversary of her arrest, any investigator who would look at it then and figured that it deserves "voluntary disappearance" classification would have to be nuts...
I don't think that they were nuts thou.
 
I realize this case is in Ceres a couple of hours from Reseda and Santa Clarita but I can't help think of the underlying tone of this case and compare it to what happened to Maricela.
In Erika's case here, a man was lurking around her home and police were called but they didn't do anything according to her daughter, I don't know the details but why?. My question is if this happened to Maricela would she be any safer if LE did/didn't as in Erika's case? Erika's husband was I believe at the home also and this man was still lurking there. Again I don't know the details but the guy is aware its Erika's home and would know she has family. Its odd. I see some tones here of Rosa's case and Maicela here in how they occurred and the underlying brazeness. MOO.
 
I realize this case is in Ceres a couple of hours from Reseda and Santa Clarita but I can't help think of the underlying tone of this case and compare it to what happened to Maricela.
In Erika's case here, a man was lurking around her home and police were called but they didn't do anything according to her daughter, I don't know the details but why?. My question is if this happened to Maricela would she be any safer if LE did/didn't as in Erika's case? Erika's husband was I believe at the home also and this man was still lurking there. Again I don't know the details but the guy is aware its Erika's home and would know she has family. Its odd. I see some tones here of Rosa's case and Maicela here in how they occurred and the underlying brazeness. MOO.
wow thats so weird, i know exactly where she was found. whats the story on her stalker? why is the police denying is a homicide or suspicious?
 
Here's another article about Erika Lopez it gives abit more detail. In Maricela's case it was an exboyfriend and in Erika's case an exclassmate. But to me it looks similar in the sense that Erika was hounded by this guy and then what happened to Maricela that evening when her sister last saw her. Another similarity is both Maricela and Erika were trying to better themselves. Of course Maricela was trying to but Erika was established and yet it happened to her. So really where is the safety. Maricela didn't have a chance that night IMO. This guy was very bold he went to her house apparently a couple of times and he knew she had a family. So as I said Maricela didn't have a chance.
 
Here's another article about Erika Lopez it gives abit more detail. In Maricela's case it was an exboyfriend and in Erika's case an exclassmate. But to me it looks similar in the sense that Erika was hounded by this guy and then what happened to Maricela that evening when her sister last saw her. Another similarity is both Maricela and Erika were trying to better themselves. Of course Maricela was trying to but Erika was established and yet it happened to her. So really where is the safety. Maricela didn't have a chance that night IMO. This guy was very bold he went to her house apparently a couple of times and he knew she had a family. So as I said Maricela didn't have a chance.
Is Is there an open thread on the Erika Lopez case on WS ? I looked but couldn’t find one.
 

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