Australia Australia - Marion Barter - Missing After Trip to UK - June 1997 #19

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Lord Peter Flimsy said:
The postcards and letter home IMHO quash any claim Marion was looking to break away from her family. It just suits his needs.
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It's literally the cover up for her disappearance. If he didn't care why or how she disappeared, why would he venture forth with a cover up? That is how we know for sure he did it.

That, IMO, is why the court went quiet and sad and no further questions were required of him, the session was terminated. IMO they know exactly what they just heard and what it means.

Maybe, hopefully, if the Inquest summary is that he is connected to her disappearance, forensic psychologist detectives will be taking these questions a whole lot further. I personally believe this will happen. JMO.
 
She ran off with a 'cult society' after deciding she wanted nothing more to do with her children or family is his (frankly childish and laughable) explanation.

Incidentally after she had been de-funded and asset stripped in exactly the same way as he did with several other women whose lawful testimony we believe.

Anyone else who offers forth this same (ludicrous IMO) explanation is therefore directly connect to him or the scam. Such as a bank manager IMO.
 
I wonder if RB was propelled to perpetrate these crimes by the pressure of the cost of supporting a family? At what ages would his children have been during this reign of terror from say, 1994 of the Le Courier advert onwards?

Could he have had a demanding wife who wanted the very best of everything for her children and to give them the type of childhood that he had never had, wanting for nothing?

Maybe he viewed his 'marks' as rich pickings, the sort of people who want for nothing and can afford to take a hit from their life savings. Plus zero empathy in line with his 'different brain'. Plus major chip on his shoulder about his background of origin, the horror and the trauma of some sort or another.

Did he woo his wife with ideas of a luxury lifestyle and then have to back it up with mysterious working overseas doing god knows what, 'big wins', and she turned a blind eye knowing full well he's as shady as heck? Also he's by default an abuser, he can't turn it on and off, so he's definitely psychologically abused them all.

Why aren't they speaking out when their whole existence has been funded by stolen money from vulnerable women in the most sickening of ways and one woman at least has gone missing? Are they as bad as him?

JMO MOO
 
Observe_dont_Absorb said:
I wonder if RB was propelled to perpetrate these crimes by the pressure of the cost of supporting a family? At what ages would his children have been during this reign of terror from say, 1994 of the Le Courier advert onwards?

Could he have had a demanding wife who wanted the very best of everything for her children and to give them the type of childhood that he had never had, wanting for nothing?

Maybe he viewed his 'marks' as rich pickings, the sort of people who want for nothing and can afford to take a hit from their life savings. Plus zero empathy in line with his 'different brain'. Plus major chip on his shoulder about his background of origin, the horror and the trauma of some sort or another.

Did he woo his wife with ideas of a luxury lifestyle and then have to back it up with mysterious working overseas doing god knows what, 'big wins', and she turned a blind eye knowing full well he's as shady as heck? Also he's by default an abuser, he can't turn it on and off, so he's definitely psychologically abused them all.

Why aren't they speaking out when their whole existence has been funded by stolen money from vulnerable women in the most sickening of ways and one woman at least has gone missing? Are they as bad as him?

JMO MOO
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I think at the time of Marion they were aged 16 and 18 respectively. They would most certainly have been old enough to question their father’s extended disappearances to Europe.

We know they’ve been questioned too and I would have liked both of them to have been called as witnesses at the Inquest.
 
Lord Peter Flimsy said:
Australia is such a vast country that disposing of someone would presumably be a fairly easy task.

I wonder if his children have ever questioned the fact that their parents haven’t done a days work in nearly 40 years? I know mine would have!
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The thing is, from his innocent children's point of view (which they were born into this madness, so they were innocent), he had been working all that time.

He'd been scurrying back and forth hither and thither, travelling overseas and spinning yarns about antiques and rare coins. He'd been man about town, handling money investments, visiting banks, looking at properties, checking his rental mailboxes and his security deposit boxes, arranging lots of moving house, buying vehicles. Coming and going like quite the international businessman. Socialising, schmoozing, hanging out in street cafes smoking cigars, debating, discussing, considering all manner of intellectual matters and following share prices index in the newspaper every day or some type of phoney cover.

They may not have been minted like some of the other kids at school but sure as heck they didn't go hungry or want for shoes, need social housing, or live in an urban flat with no garden. I bet DdH played a Stepford Wife version of homemaker and housekeeper and provider.

I'll also bet there was plenty of times the mask slipped and he was a straight up violent abuser and they heard and saw unspeakable things and were subjected to flashes of extreme cruelty.

I was brought up like this by one of these people so I know what I'm talking about.

JMO MOO
 
Lord Peter Flimsy said:
I think at the time of Marion they were aged 16 and 18 respectively. They would most certainly have been old enough to question their father’s extended disappearances to Europe.

We know they’ve been questioned too and I would have liked both of them to have been called as witnesses at the Inquest.
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OK so going back a few years prior if we are correct that the first Le Courier advert was placed as I read above 1994 - they would have been coming into their early teens. Just when kids get really, really, really expensive and if you've sent your kids to the 'good school' because you're pretending to be an international coin expert, keeping up with the Jones's just went exponential.
 
CavKinsk said:
"European woman" just means a white lady. Not black/Asian/Polynesian/Aboriginal. Interchangeable with "caucasian".
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It was more complicated in the old Australia and some of it still lingers.
People were judged on what shade their skin was.

The Greeks and and Italians suffered a lot of racism

It was normal for people with skin a bit darker, like French or Italian, or Greek etc to be called European,
While British were just called British, and not European. Irish were called Irish etc.

I won't post some of the hateful names people from Europe were called.
 
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TootsieFootsie said:
It was more complicated in the old Australia and some of it still lingers.
People were judged on what shade their skin was.

The Greeks and and Italians suffered a lot of racism

It was nornal for people with skin a bit darker, like French or Italian, or Greek etc to be called European,
While British were just called British, and not European. Irish were called Irish etc.

I won't post some of the hateful names people from Europe were called.
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So, RB and Ddh, having a slightly more tan shade of skin compared to the British, Irish, Scottish (who would have been the vast majority of the original colonisers) would be considered more European leaning?
 
Observe_dont_Absorb said:
The thing is, from his innocent children's point of view (which they were born into this madness, so they were innocent), he had been working all that time.

He'd been scurrying back and forth hither and thither, travelling overseas and spinning yarns about antiques and rare coins. He'd been man about town, handling money investments, visiting banks, looking at properties, checking his rental mailboxes and his security deposit boxes, arranging lots of moving house, buying vehicles. Coming and going like quite the international businessman. Socialising, schmoozing, hanging out in street cafes smoking cigars, debating, discussing, considering all manner of intellectual matters and following share prices index in the newspaper every day or some type of phoney cover.

They may not have been minted like some of the other kids at school but sure as heck they didn't go hungry or want for shoes, need social housing, or live in an urban flat with no garden. I bet DdH played a Stepford Wife version of homemaker and housekeeper and provider.

I'll also bet there was plenty of times the mask slipped and he was a straight up violent abuser and they heard and saw unspeakable things and were subjected to flashes of extreme cruelty.

I was brought up like this by one of these people so I know what I'm talking about.

JMO MOO
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And his last real job (apart from being employed by family) was when he was a gendarme in his twenties..
JMO
 
TootsieFootsie said:
It was more complicated in the old Australia and some of it still lingers.
People were judged on what shade their skin was.

The Greeks and and Italians suffered a lot of racism

It was nornal for people with skin a bit darker, like French or Italian, or Greek etc to be called European,
While British were just called British, and not European. Irish were called Irish etc.

I won't post some of the hateful names people from Europe were called.
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Agree. He could have meant an olive skinned brunette.
 
He said the man who came to his house in Wollongbar to collect the boxes with Marion was of a bigger build, in Aviation or in the Navy by his uniform.

Kind of ironic is it not that AH has spent a lifetime of hiding his identity to most of his victims and authorities, yet gave his home address to Marion in order for her to pick up her boxes of treasure :rolleyes:

His home address.
Where his 4th wife and kids lived.
At the home that is surrounded by neighbours who could easily have noticed a pilot/ navy personal dressed in his uniform walking up his open driveway.
With Marion and the pilot carting out heavy wooden boxes that were suppose to be filled with her school books.

More manure spills out of his mouth than the local racetrack.
 
Lord Peter Flimsy said:
Australia is such a vast country that disposing of someone would presumably be a fairly easy task.

I wonder if his children have ever questioned the fact that their parents haven’t done a days work in nearly 40 years? I know mine would have!
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Cant see how they would, they have lived the life of kings and queens, with their parents on pensions. :rolleyes:
Incredible isnt it.
Most Aussie pensioners cant even afford one decent holiday yet here are the deH's travelling all over the world with a father who travels to Europe multiple times in a year, over decades.

I look forward to the day the Rettes are called up, that alone would be an eye opener.
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Observe_dont_Absorb said:
Why aren't they speaking out when their whole existence has been funded by stolen money from vulnerable women in the most sickening of ways and one woman at least has gone missing? Are they as bad as him?

JMO MOO
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Because they are just like their father, you only need to look at the evidence given by the neighbour and the son himself threatening legal action to A.F.
And DdeH certainly doesnt look like she's concerned about her welfare in the photos we have seen publicly and photos of her that some of come across through their own research of the time.
She is a player in this game of cat and mouse.
If nothing else they can get her for perjury.

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Observe_dont_Absorb said:
So, RB and Ddh, having a slightly more tan shade of skin compared to the British, Irish, Scottish (who would have been the vast majority of the original colonisers) would be considered more European leaning?
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Europe was a totally different place to Britain, Scotland etc.
And still is, if you read or listen to the news here.

Britain etc was the motherland and like us. Europeans were foreigners who weren't like us.
 
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