Amster
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- Apr 28, 2005
- Messages
- 11,583
- Reaction score
- 4,442
It's in the ones I posted links to in that thread.
It's disgusting.
OH! It's there? I didn't realize that. Very good..
It's in the ones I posted links to in that thread.
It's disgusting.
I agree...I didn't even try 'em out. I should be ashamed. Thanks again, Ad.It's in the ones I posted links to in that thread.
It's disgusting.
I didn't realize earlier that I lost a major part of the discussion because of the blackout version. I think they should just put out what LE puts out. Why do they vary? Media is so narrowminded sometimes. They should just report the truth as it is.
Yes...is what I would have done if I had been working for them at the time. It was the "right" thing to do. (People should weigh the public's right to know against what they can live with.) There could be so many more victims that could come forward and we could protect...even if they did not know they needed it. Like AR. She had no idea what she had been told most of her life was not true. Nothing was true. So how do you report that if you gave no one any facts?I think someone leaked that document to the media, probably at the courthouse. No one on the outside was probably suppossed to see that document without major parts blackened. There was probably a flurry of calls from LE to the Media to take it down and replace with the redacted copy.
I'm hoping to hear *someone* is being charged with murder. It's odd to me that hasn't happened yet.
Edited to add, I just read Jacques is charged under a federal law that provides for the death penalty in a kidnapping resulting in a child's death. So, it sounds all inclusive.
We still haven't figured that out. Money doesn't seem to be the answer which would be so much easier. However, for the perp/perps money could be a big part of it.I haven't and don't think I can read all the sick details on these threads, but did read earlier that Jacques had been charged and sent to prison in '93 for raping an older teen. Why the he$$ were any of Brooke's relatives allowing some rapist to come anywhere near her or any other kids?
It's in the ones I posted links to in that thread.
It's disgusting.
I'm hoping to hear *someone* is being charged with murder. It's odd to me that hasn't happened yet.
Edited to add, I just read Jacques is charged under a federal law that provides for the death penalty in a kidnapping resulting in a child's death. So, it sounds all inclusive.
Good morning! I'm new here but have been glued to reading everyone's theories and discussions. I'm really impressed with this site and would like to throw in a thought or two.
If MJ and AR were emailing and texting each other, wouldn't it be reasonable to think that they also Instant Messaged each other? MJ also could've IM'ed under one of his personas as well to further convince AR to do his bidding. I'm also struck by a phrase in one of the affidavits quoting "That was a good idea you had, but it took me and C a lot of begging and pleading to get them to agree. At the moment the committee doesn't like you too much!" It appears to me that she was being threatened to be "replaced" in the program perhaps replaced by Brooke. Which would cause AR to become very jealous. AR thinking her only allies being MJ and C. So Breckenridge wants Brooke but MJ and C want her--am I making sense? So this is how they come up with their plan. In AR's mind she wants to hold on to what she has. She is 14 and has been under MJ's control for 5 years and is now going to be cast aside. Too far fetched? I mean reasonably entire groups of adults have been convinced to commit mass suicide so how easy would it be to manipulate a 14 year old into thinking she was on her way out? AR seemed to be very isolated and very dependent on pleasing MJ which could explain her reluctance and lying to LE.
You know, you may be right. In the emails, it mentions that Denise is acting "bitchy" towards MJ and that she is accepting calls from ex-husband (AR's father). I wonder if Denise was talking to ex-husband, getting some advice about the situation. It also does mention something about counseling. MJ may have still been there because only his name is on the house. For some reason, she may not have wanted to call police because I am certain that both AR and MJ were denying that anything ever transpired...I still think (read: HOPE) there is a possibility that when Denise walked in on AR and MJ - that may have been the turning point of this whole thing. That may have been a fairly recent occurrance, and it could be the very reason why Denise and AR are attending counseling...it may be wishful thinking on my part, and I may just be naive about this, but I just can't imagine any mom walking in on what is OBVIOUS to all of us and not picking up on or doing anything about what she MUST know is going on...I don't want to believe any mom could shrug it off, BUT then again, why would MJ still be living in the home? I want more information so i can have an INFORMED opinion about the whole ordeal...I think this is the most unbelievable case I can recall...it is so 'far out' that I can't even fathom it...
This is a huge if...but Ray Gagnon mentioning the Russian child *advertiser censored* ring to me was no mistake on his part. I think it was a clue for LE. If he and MJ were doing business with them, we are talking serious threats against them for nonpayment or for not producing what they promise, imo.
After seeing the machine, I think he very well could have produced a snuff film and shipped it off in the time after her disappearance before LE got to him.
Oh..he is definitely linked to this.
The money will be found with the distributor so while I used to think it was Gagnon...now I am not so sure.
Is there a 3rd party involved here that they don't know about yet? A "runner" of sorts with the product and the cash?