Misty C #6

[metalcrystal]

At some point the police have to either charge her or leave her alone. She hasn't been charged with anything. She has probably said everything she is willing to say in the 30 hours she has spent talking to them. They may watch where she goes, but she has an attorney looking out for her best interest. She has given them a lot of interviews. Everyone wants answers, but no one can FORCE someone to talk.

 

[debs]

Obviously LE has instructed her to keep in contact with them regarding where she is, which places her squarely in a POI position (that, and the fact that LE has made the statement she's a POI). LE talking to HER does not require an attorney present. But LE cannot question Misty without her attorney present unless she gives them permission to do so. But given that the last time she was questioned without her attorney (TM's videos) and the ensuing hue and cry about that, I'm sure LE is more than a little cautious than to question a POI. But they can talk. They can say whatever they like. They just can't ask her questions. She can talk......she can say whatever she likes. Whatever she volunteers is admissible.

 

[metalcrystal]

What i meant was what u said, Debs. She CAn talk if she wants, but they cant make her if she doesn't want to.:snooty:

 

[Skully]

I'm sorry, no offense to you, but to say, since she didn't offer they didn't push it, if that is their reasoning that ludicrous. She has spoken to them before w/o her attorney present. If they want to find Haleigh they are going to have to "push it". All they have said for months and months is "Misty is the key" and they let her waltz out of the police station w/o asking any questions?? IMO that is very poor judgement.

What is ludicrous is the fact they can't find something to bring her in and question her on, or arrest her. She has been questioned before and they don't get the answers to what really happened that night. But without proof that SHE did something or RON did something and she is covering, they can't force her into a chair and question her. She says she is willing to talk to LE, LE said she is the key and won't give the answers, Ron said "I don't know, Miss Nancy" There no where to go until they find evidence of Haleigh being dead, or some cover up. I don't understand why obstruction of justice isn't at play here, but I am not a lawyer.

 

[Whisperer]

How many times has Misty been there vs. RC being there?

He should know a heck of a lot since he was calling her all night. Did he ever say why he called his mom and she called her mom to check on the kids.

The person who also should be talking is RC...he seems to be good at deflecting blame. He did it during the custody thing also. According to RC he does nothing wrong.

IMO, Misty has talked, maybe not as much as we'd like but RC has not given up much at all. He is letting his mom and Misty do all the talking...one slick guy.

 

[faefrost]

I'm sorry, no offense to you, but to say, since she didn't offer they didn't push it, if that is their reasoning that ludicrous. She has spoken to them before w/o her attorney present. If they want to find Haleigh they are going to have to "push it". All they have said for months and months is "Misty is the key" and they let her waltz out of the police station w/o asking any questions?? IMO that is very poor judgement.

It doesn't matter. She has an attorney of record with LE. She has "lawyered up" very clearly. AT this point they cannot, under ruling of the USSC, preasure her or ask her any questions without her lawyer present. They are not allowed to ask period. They cannot even ask her questions about a diferent crime or incident that she may or may not be a witness to. And yes, it is absurd. The USSC heard arguments this week in a new case that may modify or overturn this previous ruling.

 

[MissJames]

MissJames, being he's nine years old, likely needed if not done: Has he been tested for physical sensory problems also? Normally the auditory is a sympton due to the physical. Does he react overly with certain types of material in clothing, becoming more agitated, refusal to wear items as their scratchy, don't feel right, too hot, things like this?

Last time I was involved, much research and developmental progress had been done in treating this condition. Does he use audio sounds like with headphones, music to soothe and deduce symptons during the course of a day? Keeping the home environment peaceful and almost clinical like (which is near to impossible, but can be achieved short term to benefit the child) being done?

Are you familiar with the brushing technique and balance swinging which offers so much comfort and balance for the child, helps them tremendously? If not, pm me and I'll tell ya about it. Works like miracles, surely they are. LOL :angel:

I know you probably are up on all techniques, but I want to encourage you to stay with them, at times it can be very deceiving in day to day routines that you can't see progress. But over time, the progress begins to show up steadily and surely. Hang in there, my daughter is now 21 years old, and only a trained professional eye can even see a flag indicator anything has ever been a problem in her development. She has 5 disorders along with another major/minor medical issue, but I am gratefully reporting my girl is as normal as they come now. Work, steadfast determination to help her, paid off. Days I would get depressed and think it's not working, but I can vouch, the processes do work, just not necessarily immediately.

I'm no doctor, but Misty has some things going on. Just don't know what exactly. I hope Ron isn't giving up on her because of this, because he doesn't understand and realize the extent. And I'm almost one hundred percent positive he isn't aware or know the magnitude this plays in Mistys everyday behavior. Understanding her, knowing and discovering any possible conditions should be the goal of her husband, family and herself along with LE since their investigating Haleighs disappearance and Misty was the last known person to see her.

OT,but to answer ,yes,.My James had sensory integration issues,as does my two boys at home now.All were exposed to drugs and alcohol prenatally by their birt mothers. We have great therapists and I have a sensory therapy room at home.Keep the therapy brush in my purse! Trampoline is a huge help!
Thanks for the input.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

OT,but to answer ,yes,.My James had sensory integration issues,as does my two boys at home now.All were exposed to drugs and alcohol prenatally by their birt mothers. We have great therapists and I have a sensory therapy room at home.Keep the therapy brush in my purse! Trampoline is a huge help!
Thanks for the input.

LOL I kept the brush in my purse too, amazing how much our lives are alike. I could tell immediately the benefits of the brushing, such a simple technique, but really works. You sound like a great Mother. Hugs to you.

Didn't have the trampoline for her early on. Got one when she was 10. To this day she can't ride a bike, hop on either foot, iron, walk steadily, but swimming, the trampoline she excells like a medalist. So I concentrated on these strengths within her and never worried about the things she couldn't do.

I'm really concerned about Misty. Believing she didn't harm Haleigh. Maybe why Haleigh and she apparently bonded so well. Some young children are just naturally gifted and accepting of others who have these type of things going on. It's amazing, but they just seem to know it, and yet their so young. Many young children, as young as 18 months old could step up to the plate and help my daughter as she grew up. That's what I'm thinking may be one of the dynamics with Haleigh and Misty's relationship.

 

[txsvicki]

Since it's thought by some that Misty may have a developmental disorder, what do you think about going into rages? I know that (other than the reported slapping incident at the bus stop) there have been no reports of rages, but I know that some learning disabilities, ADD, defiant disorders, etc. can cause rages or meltdowns. I have suspicions that the sexual abuse, and her bad parents is what caused Misty to not want to attend school and to mess up her life, and not sure myself if she really has a disorder.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

txsvicki, speaking from experience, my daughter doesn't have these tendencies. Temperment is actually more tolerable for the most part. What I have noticed, especially as she entered teenager to adult, she's effected and reacts if I get upset, she becomes twice as upset. Something she didn't do in early childhood.

Guess it could go either way. Depends too on what kind of environment she grew up in, the peace or hell in the home. I haven't seen her Dad Hank or Mom Lisa appear to be easily agitated, but the brother Hank, I believe he's a volitile person.

If these disorders aren't diagnosed, treated then all kinds of acting out can occur. I believe Misty quit school because she fell through the cracks of the system. Let down by the parents and possibly school administration. Sad. I haven't seen any indicators of temperment out of Misty, even when pushed and pressured. If it was me being treated the way LE and TJ Ward talked and treated her, I would have told them off many times. She didn't though. I'm sure others here will have helpful opinions to offer you also. It's a good question, and if we knew, it would help us.

 

[TxLady2]

I'm sorry, no offense to you, but to say, since she didn't offer they didn't push it, if that is their reasoning that ludicrous. She has spoken to them before w/o her attorney present. If they want to find Haleigh they are going to have to "push it". All they have said for months and months is "Misty is the key" and they let her waltz out of the police station w/o asking any questions?? IMO that is very poor judgement.

They can't question her without her attorney present. Maybe they wanted to, and she refused because he wasn't there. Once they get an attorney, LE's hands are tied, they can't force it. Sorry, that's how it is.

 

[Malesherbes]

txsvicki, speaking from experience, my daughter doesn't have these tendencies. Temperment is actually more tolerable for the most part. What I have noticed, especially as she entered teenager to adult, she's effected and reacts if I get upset, she becomes twice as upset. Something she didn't do in early childhood.

Guess it could go either way. Depends too on what kind of environment she grew up in, the peace or hell in the home. I haven't seen her Dad Hank or Mom Lisa appear to be easily agitated, but the brother Hank, I believe he's a volitile person.

If these disorders aren't diagnosed, treated then all kinds of acting out can occur. I believe Misty quit school because she fell through the cracks of the system. Let down by the parents and possibly school administration. Sad. I haven't seen any indicators of temperment out of Misty, even when pushed and pressured. If it was me being treated the way LE and TJ Ward talked and treated her, I would have told them off many times. She didn't though. I'm sure others here will have helpful opinions to offer you also. It's a good question, and if we knew, it would help us.

Misty quit going to school because no one was making her go, imo, it has nothing to do with her falling through the cracks, education is not important to these people, and thats fine, hundreds of years ago there were not schools and we have all evolved somehow- not going to school is the least of the issues here-

She was 16 when she was involved with Ronald- that is being sexually abused- she is an abused person, even if no one seems to want to admit it since no one went to jail- I think it would be a travesty to turn a blind eye to the facts here- and then we have Ron telling people, Tim Miller- that he is going to blow her teeth into the back of her head, I am a little bit more concerned about someone like that maybe a bit more than I am of Misty, does anyone know how much schooling Ron has?

jmo

 

[debs]

txsvicki, speaking from experience, my daughter doesn't have these tendencies. Temperment is actually more tolerable for the most part. What I have noticed, especially as she entered teenager to adult, she's effected and reacts if I get upset, she becomes twice as upset. Something she didn't do in early childhood.

Guess it could go either way. Depends too on what kind of environment she grew up in, the peace or hell in the home. I haven't seen her Dad Hank or Mom Lisa appear to be easily agitated, but the brother Hank, I believe he's a volitile person.

If these disorders aren't diagnosed, treated then all kinds of acting out can occur. I believe Misty quit school because she fell through the cracks of the system. Let down by the parents and possibly school administration. Sad. I haven't seen any indicators of temperment out of Misty, even when pushed and pressured. If it was me being treated the way LE and TJ Ward talked and treated her, I would have told them off many times. She didn't though. I'm sure others here will have helpful opinions to offer you also. It's a good question, and if we knew, it would help us.

Sadly, not everything can be associated with our own personal experiences. Lucky for your daughter, she still enjoys cuddling with you, even at 21.

 

[Malesherbes]

http://www.wesh.com/news/21234219/detail.html

 

[kaymo]

Misty quit going to school because no one was making her go, imo, it has nothing to do with her falling through the cracks, education is not important to these people, and thats fine, hundreds of years ago there were not schools and we have all evolved somehow- not going to school is the least of the issues here-

She was 16 when she was involved with Ronald- that is being sexually abused- she is an abused person, even if no one seems to want to admit it since no one went to jail- I think it would be a travesty to turn a blind eye to the facts here- and then we have Ron telling people, Tim Miller- that he is going to blow her teeth into the back of her head, I am a little bit more concerned about someone like that maybe a bit more than I am of Misty, does anyone know how much schooling Ron has?

jmo

Exactly! Lack of education seems to be a running theme among these people. It's clearly not a priority and the children ultimately suffer. Now Misty is alone with no high school diploma or GED, no skill set or job training so that she could be employable.

I do believe Misty has some sort of learning disability or she's developmentally challanged. Remember the interview with Ron and Misty discussing the distance between the mattress on the floor where Haleigh slept and the bed where Misty slept? She didn't know how many feet to approximate, she kept saying inches and Ron had to correct her. That was very telling. That was when I realized she didn't mastermind anything.

 

[mnegri1973]

Hi, PC. ADD or ADHD requires extensive testing to diagnose; in my professional opinion, it is often over-diagnosed, applied to children with chaotic home lives who have difficulties in school for many reasons: lack of discipline, abuse from caretakers, poor nutrition, inadequate sleep, undiagnosed medical problems, or depression. Some kids with terrible home lives may be so far behind by the upper elementary grades (4th-6th) that there really is no catching up.

But there is no way even a doctor can diagnose ADD or ADHD without testing (although some schools, to their shame, send notes home asking parents to get the family doctor to put a troublesome kid on Ritalin.) I am not aware of the new brain scans (you are giving me homework, there) but most ADD/ADH kids are sent to specialists in this area. A friend of mine has a son with ADD who went through two days of testing before he got a diagnosis. You may well be right that Misty has one of these conditions or some other condition, and you are very, very correct in saying that many learning disabilities are not correlated with the usual forms of "intelligence" kids use in school. From what little I know of Misty's background, though, my guess is that her difficulties in school had multiple causes--some environmental, some physiological, some emotional.

I have to agree with PG on this. My daughter was diagnosed with ADHD when she was in 3rd grade. She went through 2 weeks of testing with a spec. at her school, then we went to a Child Psychologist who was one of the best in the south, and then we worked with her peds doctor. She was put on adderal to help her focus, which this required her being seen every 6 months for a checkup with her peds doc. I have never heard of there being a type of brain scan to help detect or diagnose ADD/ADHD. My nephew was also just diagnosed with in the the last year and again, it was done through testing not with any type of scans.

Hope this helps.

M ~

 

[kant]

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Where has it been reported that Misty has been diagnosed with a disorder, condition, or syndrome?



TIA

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[CarmelEyesD]

Maybe LE doesn't really believe Misty is the key? Maybe they said that to make someone else feel safe-or to smoke out someone else. If all the attention seems to be on Misty, maybe someone else will feel they are 'safe'-and slip up.

 

[Skully]

I don' think LE feels Misty hurt Haleigh, but she is clearly lying about what she did that night. So LE knows she is covering for someone, but if they arrest her for obstruction of Justice, will she cave and say what happened or will she just keep protecting this person? I think they need to get that charge to stick, go back to the SA office and try.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

I don' think LE feels Misty hurt Haleigh, but she is clearly lying about what she did that night. So LE knows she is covering for someone, but if they arrest her for obstruction of Justice, will she cave and say what happened or will she just keep protecting this person? I think they need to get that charge to stick, go back to the SA office and try.

Whether she did or did not hurt Haleigh I feel she is as much responsible for what happened for not saying something.What if little Haleighs bones are really out there somewhere and MC knows this.Doesn't MC feel bad about this?she should.Mc doesn't act scared of anyone.I feel LE does need to do something.This is not going away for her.Whether she likes it or not she will remain the main focus of this investigation and she needs to be. If she wants this to go away.Then she needs to tell the truth.
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