ME ME - Ayla Reynolds, 20 mnths, Waterville, 17 December 2011 - # 8

[cluciano63]

Officer's Wife and Kindred, I'm soooo in your corner:

I recently called my son to find out if DDIL had been able to exchange a shirt I'd ordered for one of my granddaughters (ordered a 2...a 4 got delivered). That's all I needed to know...whether to reorder in the correct size or not.

The call was ten minutes of "Hold on Mom, Grandmunchkin #2 needs thus-and-so," and, "What, Honey? Put more diapers in the bag?" and Grandmunchkin #1 getting on the phone to tell me about the "Boys Night Out" he and his daddy were going to have, and Grandmunchkin #2 getting on the phone to tell me about the Girls Sleepover she, her sissy, mom, aunt and female cousin were having, and "No, let's not eat cookies now. We'll be having dinner soon," with Grandmunchkin #3 cooing and babbling through it all.

I put on my best false-fussing voice and said, "Son, why is it that I can't call and get one simple question answered?!" DS replied, "Mother!" (Mother translated to mean..."Old Woman you are one step closer to 'The Home'"). "Mother! We have three children!" I laughed and said, "Oh I know...and I wouldn't have it any other way!"

This is how it should be when kids are in the home. Munchkins rule and adults...well adults just revel in the "munchkinsness" of it all.

Probably a debate for another thread...but I grew up one of eight children in a very loving home, but we did not make noise when our parents were on the phone...and they had a life apart from us kids. I am glad they did, as they were married for over 55 years until they died months apart, and many of those years were after we were all gone from home. I don't believe that kids should be the entire focus of their parents' lives; in my opinion it is not healthy for either.

But obviously, most of the kids we "meet" here on WS are not a part of a loving family in any sense of the word. JMO

 

[HiHater]

Probably a debate for another thread...but I grew up one of eight children in a very loving home, but we did not make noise when our parents were on the phone...and they had a life apart from us kids. I am glad they did, as they were married for over 55 years until they died months apart, and many of those years were after we were all gone from home. I don't believe that kids should be the entire focus of their parents' lives; in my opinion it is not healthy for either.

But obviously, most of the kids we "meet" here on WS are not a part of a loving family in any sense of the word. JMO

100% agree. So glad I'm not the only one who feels this way!

 

[HiHater]

Anyone who has a child for extended periods of time is RAISING a child. I was a kindergarten teacher and had some students up to 13 hours a day, 5 days a week. My grandmother kept me every Saturday and Sunday for a summer and I def say she had a hand in "raising me".... I only mean that he had her for weeks and I think he is incapable and ill-equipped to be a father who has a child alone for extended periods of time and influencing her upbringing.



and on a side note, IMHO
A "father" cannot be "babysitting"
(I hate to hear my friends "baby-daddy's" say they can't babysit because they have to fix-the-car or clean the garage etc.)



He did not give her back because he was either:

a) unable to,she was disappeared by then(death or foul play)

or

b) he had intentions on keeping her...



I think Trista did what she thought was best, and had every intention of him giving Ayla back.

FWIW, we don't know why Ayla was given to her father and we don't know why she was not given back. All we have to go on is TR's word, and if you saw her unedited version of the timeline, you will see that like anyone else she is trying to present herself in the best possible light.

That being said, TR is not likely involved...I just think it's unfair to try to characterize the custody issues based on the story of the mother who was an addict. :twocents:

 

[deoneta]

TR hasn't been interviewed lately, but she has posted on her facebook. In posting to a someone who apparently knew the DiPietros, she asked if that person thought PD was capable of doing something to Ayla. TR goes on to say that after meeting PD, her impression was that PD was very stubborn, and if she didn't get her way, better watch out. I find that interesting in that it's been theorized that PD might be more or less at the mercy of her rather aggressive grown sons, even fearful of them. All MOO.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003376232489#!/profile.php?id=100003376232489&sk=wall

 

[cluciano63]

TR hasn't been interviewed lately, but she has posted on her facebook. In posting to a someone who apparently knew the DiPietros, she asked if that person thought PD was capable of doing something to Ayla. TR goes on to say that after meeting PD, her impression was that PD was very stubborn, and if she didn't get her way, better watch out. I find that interesting in that it's been theorized that PD might be more or less at the mercy of her rather aggressive grown sons, even fearful of them. All MOO.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003376232489#!/profile.php?id=100003376232489&sk=wall

Gosh, I know it is just an impression/opinion, but mine has always been that mama is in charge...she pays the bills, rules the roost, etc...I think she is behind Ayla ever being in Justin's "care" at all. JMO

 

[marycarney]

Probably a debate for another thread...but I grew up one of eight children in a very loving home, but we did not make noise when our parents were on the phone...and they had a life apart from us kids. I am glad they did, as they were married for over 55 years until they died months apart, and many of those years were after we were all gone from home. I don't believe that kids should be the entire focus of their parents' lives; in my opinion it is not healthy for either.

But obviously, most of the kids we "meet" here on WS are not a part of a loving family in any sense of the word. JMO

My four kids know they are the center of MY universe - not the center of THE universe. And they were taught from an early age that when an adult is on the phone they are to be silent. Just common courtesy.

 

[deoneta]

Gosh, I know it is just an impression/opinion, but mine has always been that mama is in charge...she pays the bills, rules the roost, etc...I think she is behind Ayla ever being in Justin's "care" at all. JMO

I think the same. She made herself scarce that normal night of the 16th, and I have always wondered if this was a common occurrence or another coincidence, like Ayla being alone in her shared bedroom. All MOO.

 

[Scamperoo]

I think the same. She made herself scarce that normal night of the 16th, and I have always wondered if this was a common occurrence or another coincidence, like Ayla being alone in her shared bedroom. All MOO.

As strange as this may sound, I think she made herself scarce because she knew Ayla was going to be reported missing after that night but I believe she went missing much earlier and she, as well as the rest of them, know it...

 

[MAYABLEUZ]

I have been a member for while now and I apologize for not writing sooner but I wanted to bring this up in regards to the baby Maine child Ayla Reynolds. I have religiously scouted thru various interviews from Justine Dipietro and his mother.

DiPietro, 24, said the accident occurred on a rainy night in November, but he's unsure of the exact date. So I did a research on the days it rained in DiPietro's town of Waterville, Maine. According to these dates before and after in time-frame. Not surprisingly that there was no rain those nights or days.

We know that Trista Reynolds' timeline states that on November 5th 2011 - Justin calls Trista and says that they (he and his mom) were getting ready to take Ayla to the emergency room. When asked why, Justin told Trista that he was coming home from shopping the day before and had "fallen up the stairs" on Ayla while carrying her and a bag of groceries. Later it was reported that Ayla's left forearm was broken and had been put into a splint and ace bandage.

November 21, 2011 2 pm- Trista went with Ayla and Justin to a doctor’s appointment with her bone specialist, that was the last time Trista, Ronnie, and Becca saw Ayla.
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I want to know why nobody has confronted Justine DiPietro on this claim?? It burns me deep inside.lease: I wrote to the Chief of Police in Waterville, ME but was not answered. Also I sent a message to Trista on her facebook account. I don't expect an answer from them but why hasn't anybody uncovered the rain dates in November 2011?

I would like to hear from others what they think of this claim Justine DiPietro has stated when clearly it's a lie. See or it yourselves. Precipitation 0 days (0%) do a search on this site. i I have written in my search here or November 4th, 2011. http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KWVL/1972/11/4/PlannerHistory.html?req_city=Waterville+Lafleur&req_state=ME&req_statename=Maine

Thanks everybody, especially to Websleuths forum for allowing me to post this thought.
MayaBluez

 

[deoneta]

As strange as this may sound, I think she made herself scarce because she knew Ayla was going to be reported missing after that night but I believe she went missing much earlier and she, as well as the rest of them, know it...

The missed doctor's appointments and Trista's statements that JD wouldn't let her see or speak to Ayla on the phone certainly make an earlier incident a possibility. My theory is that there was no accident, but abuse which was probably not intended to kill but none the less resulted in death. If whatever occurred happened on the night of the 16th, I could see a hastily arranged cover up with the perpetrator and any accessories concocting the abduction story. Maybe they figured any nervousness or confusion on the part of witnesses would be attributed to their shock and dismay. What is harder to imagine is that all these individuals could calmly and coldly go about their every day lives knowing all the while that they couldn't hide Ayla's absence indefinitely. But that is what happened in the Zahra Baker case and quite a few other crimes. All MOO.

 

[deoneta]

I have been a member for while now and I apologize for not writing sooner but I wanted to bring this up in regards to the baby Maine child Ayla Reynolds. I have religiously scouted thru various interviews from Justine Dipietro and his mother.

DiPietro, 24, said the accident occurred on a rainy night in November, but he's unsure of the exact date. So I did a research on the days it rained in DiPietro's town of Waterville, Maine. According to these dates before and after in time-frame. Not surprisingly that there was no rain those nights or days.

We know that Trista Reynolds' timeline states that on November 5th 2011 - Justin calls Trista and says that they (he and his mom) were getting ready to take Ayla to the emergency room. When asked why, Justin told Trista that he was coming home from shopping the day before and had "fallen up the stairs" on Ayla while carrying her and a bag of groceries. Later it was reported that Ayla's left forearm was broken and had been put into a splint and ace bandage.

November 21, 2011 2 pm- Trista went with Ayla and Justin to a doctor&#8217;s appointment with her bone specialist, that was the last time Trista, Ronnie, and Becca saw Ayla.
Read more: <modsnip>

I want to know why nobody has confronted Justine DiPietro on this claim?? It burns me deep inside.lease: I wrote to the Chief of Police in Waterville, ME but was not answered. Also I sent a message to Trista on her facebook account. I don't expect an answer from them but why hasn't anybody uncovered the rain dates in November 2011?

I would like to hear from others what they think of this claim Justine DiPietro has stated when clearly it's a lie. See or it yourselves. Precipitation 0 days (0%) do a search on this site. i I have written in my search here or November 4th, 2011. http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KWVL/1972/11/4/PlannerHistory.html?req_city=Waterville+Lafleur&req_state=ME&req_statename=Maine

Thanks everybody, especially to Websleuths forum for allowing me to post this thought.
MayaBluez

Welcome to the forum, MayaBluez. That is excellent research. Others in this forum have researched the weather for that day with the same conclusion. Also the dates for Justin's CDL classes at the community college don't seem to line up correctly with his story either. Since you've done this research, you might consider posting on the comments session of the Morning Sentinel Online. I believe LE is monitoring those comments because DiPietro supporters and possibly family members are responding to criticism and accusations made by locals. This is the link to the most recent news article and people are still commenting.

http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/aylas-uncle-charged-in-fight_2012-02-06.html

I think it's worth a shot at least. All MOO.

 

[CincinnatiKate]

quote by HiHater snipped by me vvvvvvv

"That being said, TR is not likely involved...I just think it's unfair to try to characterize the custody issues based on the story of the mother who was an addict."


I am really sorry, I have no idea how you got this from what I said.

I was trying to imply (that I think) Justin killed Ayla because he is ill equipped to have her for the length of time he did.

sigh. I am horrible at posting.

 

[mrsu]

Welcome to the forum, MayaBluez. That is excellent research. Others in this forum have researched the weather for that day with the same conclusion. Also the dates for Justin's CDL classes at the community college don't seem to line up correctly with his story either. Since you've done this research, you might consider posting on the comments session of the Morning Sentinel Online. I believe LE is monitoring those comments because DiPietro supporters and possibly family members are responding to criticism and accusations made by locals. This is the link to the most recent news article and people are still commenting.

http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/aylas-uncle-charged-in-fight_2012-02-06.html

I think it's worth a shot at least. All MOO.

However, it did rain some of the last days of October. Perhaps that's when the incident really happened? Also, I wonder how correct the figures are? I didn't rain what so ever the entire month of November? Also, one day in October it shows it rained 655 inches.

http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KWVL/2011/10/27/DailyHistory.html

 

[Lera213]

I just started a new job and for the past two weeks I've had zero time to log in to read. Can someone tell me really quickly if there has been anything new in the past two weeks?

 

[Gingy]

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Thanks for the link to the timeline. I have a few questions. I don't know that any of these are helpful in the search for Ayla, but here goes.

When Trista had the fight with Jessica - who contacted DHHS? If LE, why would this have happened if it was only a dispute between two sisters (albeit one who was drunk)? What did LE see to make them concerned about the children?

When Justin went to get Ayla - as the custodial parent, why didn't the caseworker notify Trista that Ayla was being taken? Was Trista still Ayla's custodial parent at that point?

Justin was supposed to give Ayla back on Oct 22. He didn't. Why was DHHS "stonewalling" Trista? What detail is missing? Could it be something like the caseworker on vacation? Buddy of PD (as has been speculated)? Apathy to reuniting family? Some other detail to make them think Ayla was better off with Justin? Just what happened?

Did DHHS investigate Ayla's bruises, limp, or broken arm?

Why didn't Trista "take" Ayla back on Nov 21 when she saw her? What transpired with DHHS so that Trista didn't think she had the right to do that?

I'm not casting aspersions at Trista or DHHS. IMO, Trista could very well have been taken advantage of by a system that she didn't know how to navigate. Or, DHHS truly felt that removing Ayla from her aunt's care was what was best for Ayla. I don't buy "dad trumps aunt" - where is that policy documented? Based on Trista's timeline though, it makes me wonder whether DHHS overstepped their bounds.

Are there any good unbiased investigative reporters in Maine? I sure hope so. JMO, MOO.

 

[deoneta]

However, it did rain some of the last days of October. Perhaps that's when the incident really happened? Also, I wonder how correct the figures are? I didn't rain what so ever the entire month of November? Also, one day in October it shows it rained 655 inches.

http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KWVL/2011/10/27/DailyHistory.html

JD and PD offer no date for the accident although they remember having lasagna for supper, and that the next day was the last day of JD's CDL class. TR's date could be off, but since it's the only reference we have, I'd say it was worth a look from LE. I assume LE is looking into the previous injuries that have been alleged. At least I hope so. All MOO.

 

[deoneta]

Thanks for the link to the timeline. I have a few questions. I don't know that any of these are helpful in the search for Ayla, but here goes.

When Trista had the fight with Jessica - who contacted DHHS? If LE, why would this have happened if it was only a dispute between two sisters (albeit one who was drunk)? What did LE see to make them concerned about the children?

When Justin went to get Ayla - as the custodial parent, why didn't the caseworker notify Trista that Ayla was being taken? Was Trista still Ayla's custodial parent at that point?

Justin was supposed to give Ayla back on Oct 22. He didn't. Why was DHHS "stonewalling" Trista? What detail is missing? Could it be something like the caseworker on vacation? Buddy of PD (as has been speculated)? Apathy to reuniting family? Some other detail to make them think Ayla was better off with Justin? Just what happened?

Did DHHS investigate Ayla's bruises, limp, or broken arm?

Why didn't Trista "take" Ayla back on Nov 21 when she saw her? What transpired with DHHS so that Trista didn't think she had the right to do that?

I'm not casting aspersions at Trista or DHHS. IMO, Trista could very well have been taken advantage of by a system that she didn't know how to navigate. Or, DHHS truly felt that removing Ayla from her aunt's care was what was best for Ayla. I don't buy "dad trumps aunt" - where is that policy documented? Based on Trista's timeline though, it makes me wonder whether DHHS overstepped their bounds.

Are there any good unbiased investigative reporters in Maine? I sure hope so. JMO, MOO.

Those are all good questions. As far as I know, the only source for the details of the custody arrangement come from Trista's timelilne which could possibly be colored by emotion, and is naturally told from TR's point of view. DHHS isn't going to give out any details. Unless this ends up going to trial, I'm not sure how the information could come out. All MOO.

 

[deoneta]

I just started a new job and for the past two weeks I've had zero time to log in to read. Can someone tell me really quickly if there has been anything new in the past two weeks?

There have been two stories. PD called the police because windows were broken at her home. She said somebody was throwing rocks, but LE found nothing that had been thrown in. JD and LD were riding around, saw the father of ED's baby walking down the street, JD pulled over and LD got out with a miniature bat which he later threw down and proceeded to beat down the victim, kicking him in the face when he was down. JD didn't see anything or even know about it despite being the wheelman. LD was charged with assault. All MOO

 

[ynotdivein]

Ayla's Social Media thread is in the Parking Lot. Please remember that what happens in the Parking Lot, stays in the Parking Lot. You can post the link to the PL thread here, but we don't discuss PL issues in the main thread.

 

[EllaMae]

Thanks for the link to the timeline. I have a few questions. I don't know that any of these are helpful in the search for Ayla, but here goes.

When Trista had the fight with Jessica - who contacted DHHS? If LE, why would this have happened if it was only a dispute between two sisters (albeit one who was drunk)? What did LE see to make them concerned about the children?

When Justin went to get Ayla - as the custodial parent, why didn't the caseworker notify Trista that Ayla was being taken? Was Trista still Ayla's custodial parent at that point?

Justin was supposed to give Ayla back on Oct 22. He didn't. Why was DHHS "stonewalling" Trista? What detail is missing? Could it be something like the caseworker on vacation? Buddy of PD (as has been speculated)? Apathy to reuniting family? Some other detail to make them think Ayla was better off with Justin? Just what happened?

Did DHHS investigate Ayla's bruises, limp, or broken arm?

Why didn't Trista "take" Ayla back on Nov 21 when she saw her? What transpired with DHHS so that Trista didn't think she had the right to do that?

I'm not casting aspersions at Trista or DHHS. IMO, Trista could very well have been taken advantage of by a system that she didn't know how to navigate. Or, DHHS truly felt that removing Ayla from her aunt's care was what was best for Ayla. I don't buy "dad trumps aunt" - where is that policy documented? Based on Trista's timeline though, it makes me wonder whether DHHS overstepped their bounds.

Are there any good unbiased investigative reporters in Maine? I sure hope so. JMO, MOO.

These are all very good questions, and very important ones also.

DHHS needs to examine their actions in this case, and make adjustments to the policies that allowed Ayla to slip through the cracks into an unsafe environment. I definitely believe Ayla should have remained with Trista's sister, instead of being placed with an immature father who had never cared for her on a daily basis, and probably knew little to nothing about the demands of raising a toddler.
Ayla was safe in the care of her aunt. Why was she moved to an unfamiliar place to be with a dad she barely knew?