Psychological Markers

shadow,

I was referring to neuroethics. It seems to be quite the topic these days. Could you imagine if they added to the DSM: Serial Killer Disorder or Serial killer personality disorder? Sounds outrageous, but some scientists believe that serial killers were biologically/genetically destined to act the way they do and they are trying to prove it. My point was the legal and ethical ramifications. what would we do with the recently charged serial killers and the ones who were already convicted and sentenced?
I believe that goes back to nature nutter...issue.

I also believe the neuro patterns change do to having them used & developed in childhood which than creates a lack of feelings emotions & we do know many serial killers had a horrific childhood full of trauma & rejection

Than we do know they experiment with animals & there joy of hurting actually creates there brain chemicals to lean to what has been done to them.

Example foster children boys in particular....have anger issues in regards to abandon,ent etc....you see aggressive behaviors..
A lot of lighting fires in homes
Many abuse the animals
They are angry they were not loved & are apt to act on feelings

Girls respond differently....they are taught that sexual abuse....was a form of love
They felt reinforcement of pleasing the abuser & grows up stripping being promiscuous .....there self worth & attention came from people who used & abused...also learned behavior from parent...

Look up statistics there are plenty out there

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NATURE. BEING BORN WITH CHEMICAL PYCHOLOGICAL ISSUES OR WAS IT DO TO THE WAY THEY WERE BROUGHT UP, WHAT SHAPED THEM &their value systems
It is always a factor weighed in on , that's why they conduct much research to see where actions & thoughts are derived from

This is a or reaction where I wrote nutter meant NATURE verses Nuture
That's what the post was about didn't realize spelling

ISSUE PROFESSIONALS TRY & DETERMINE IS WHAT CAUSED THERE BEHAVIOR.......
NATURE.....THE WAY WE ARE BORN & lack OF PROPER DEVELOPEMENT
NUTURE.....THEY WAY A CARETAKER BROUGHT UP THE PERSON, VALUES MORALES, TREATMNT, LOVE EXPRESSION OUR BASIC NEEDS IN LIFE IF THEY WERE NOT MET WE DEVELOPE ISSUES & behaviors due to this
 
BUSINESS INSIDER
There Are Two Types Of Serial Killers And It's Easy To
Tell Them Apart
Meredith Galante
April 12, 2012
http://articles.businessinsider.com...ler-scott-bonn-fbi-profiler#mod-ctr-lt-in-top

"Scott Bonn, a professor at Drew University and a criminologist, who is in touch with Hazelwood, explained the difference between these two classifications, how law enforcement uses these characteristics to apprehend the killer, and why both types are equally as dangerous.”

“An organized serial killer is cunning, charismatic even. He can lure you into his car, like Ted Bundy, or to meet him through Craigslist, like the Long Island serial killer, and then he strikes.”
 
Ah, but joe public, esp true crime writers, just love to toss psychiatric labels. That is, from what I've witnessed over the past decade. But, I digress.


Imho, the real question boils down to identifying patterns as well as deviations. Hence, the title of this thread, psychological markers (as opposed to psychological diagnosis).

Besides, at this point, tossing psychiatric labels is not particularly productive, and in some cases, wholly counterproductive. This is esp so when some joe schmoe (whose only basis in psychology appears to be what they've seen on TV or read in comic books) attempts to recklessly bait the killer and/or killers into revealing who they are.

It might be productive in profiling IMO from what you said above: "However, they do fit within spectrums. Hence, the clusters (i.e., cognitive disorders, personality disorders, anxiety disorders)".
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This Video & Serial Killer emulates the current LISK IMO......Move video forwardward bly clicking on the red streaming button to exactly 18:00 minutes from the beginning. Sounds alot like this case......give it a chance John Douglas & Roy Hazelwood is the Profilers....whole video is good as it shows exactly what the FBI is probably doing now....

http://youtu.be/QJE3NHeY3lc
 
Well said Margarita25!

And YES! We get another 2 episodes tonight. I love that! Hats off to Josh, Rachel, & the producers for doing that.

One of the things doctors & detectives must be watchful for, as pertaining to psychiatry/psychology in order to make our diagnoses, is to not "Project" one's own experiences, feelings, or motivations on to the patient, or in this case, the perpetrator. When we make a wrong diagnosis, it's usually either due to one of the following self-defense mechanisms:

1) "Stereotyping" (saying that all people who do a certain thing have a certain diagnosis). A silly but easy to remember example of this self-defense mechanism would be: "All skinny people are on Speed or Meth"! Or, one of the stereotypes we caucasians were awful about once using like, "All black people love watermelon & steal televisions". This is not only rude and hurtful, it doesn't help anyone or anything. Stereotypes are based on our own prejudices.
2) "Projection", which is similar self-defense mechanism, but projection is the attributing your own personality or motivators onto the patient or perpetrator. An example would be: Since, the I'm very interested in sports, or "I love to compete with others", then the person "projects" that personality trait on to their patient or the perpetrator. This 2nd one is difficult to detect, unless one listens to the speaker closely. It's used to "make a doctor feel better about themself" by belittling the other person, using the very thing that motivates the doctor while the doctor actually hates himself for feeling that way. It's purely unconscious, so the doctor/detective rarely sees himself doing it.

Here's a great example of "projection", just in case there are Sleuths who are interested: My wife and I were out with another couple during medical school. My wife made a comment about how beautiful another lady's purse was. It was an expensive purse, but certainly beautiful. She merely likes well-made, beautiful things. The other medical student we were with commented, "Man, you're gonna have problems! You're wife has very expensive taste". What this rude jerk didn't understand about himself is that he not only offended me & my wife who actually has "GOOD" taste, but that it's HIM who loves expensive things. Everyone knew that about him. Projection is used when the speaker or investigator despises what is in their own hearts (they only see it unconsciously- that's why they don't know), so they "project" that distasteful personality trait on another person. It's quite common, even in every day life. Try listening for it, and you'll hear it. The problem is in knowing the speaker. Are they "stereotyping" or "projecting". That's the catch. We all knew my medical student colleague was greedy & loves money.

I hope this helps someone to understand these two self-defense mechanism better. I get verbose (has anyone noticed yet? LOL), and I have to force myself to be direct & to the point. It's merely insecurity I've lived with my whole life.

"NARCISSISM": for anyone interested (this will be a little different than the info in many criminal texts): Narcissists are extremely sensitive & have very thin skins. When you discover what the weaknesses of a narcissist are, you can devastate them often with only a few words. They put up a very thick, "GLASS" wall between themselves & everyone else (I'm not referring to the "glass wall" of schizphrenia. That's different). Narcissists often intimidate others around them in order to prevent others from saying anything that might hurt their feelings. The problem with narcissists and especially twisted SK's, is that their arrogance can be complex & unusual enough that it's difficult to determine their weak points. Breaking down a narcissist is what Detectives do in Movies/TV when they taunt the perp & get them angry to the point of breaking. Unfortunately, SK's are not like normal people, and a detective can't look for normal personality traits/motivators in the perpetrator. If they do, the SK will laugh. It proves to them that they're smarter than everyone else. As discussed in the myriad of excellent books available concerning SK's & psychology, the detective must try to think like the perpetrator, even though it's very difficult for most of us. You can't discover what's in a twisted, morbid, dastardly individual's mind by assuming they think like normal people; and by the same token, you can't discover what motivates them by projecting one's own personality traits or motivators on the killer.

That's it for the psychology lesson. Again, I didn't intend to train those of you all who are experts in this field. I'm new here. I just know psychology & psychiatry well enough to want to share what I know for those who are interested. Some of the issues in psychology are difficult to understand, just as it was for my medical student colleague, above. He didn't pass psychiatry. He's a huge "projector". (In case anyone's interested, different self-defense mechanisms like "projection" & "stereotyping", and personality traits like "narcissism" are often seen in particular types of psychiatric disorders. Just google them if you're interested. It's often interesting to discover that you can determine the personality & self-defense mechanisms of someone like a killer. For instance, "histrionic" individuals use "projection" quite often. (my friend was histrionic. Males can be histrionic, too!).

Thanks for the feedback everyone! And, let's find these horrid monsters.
 
Well said Margarita25!

And YES! We get another 2 episodes tonight. I love that! Hats off to Josh, Rachel, & the producers for doing that.

One of the things doctors & detectives must be watchful for, as pertaining to psychiatry/psychology in order to make our diagnoses, is to not "Project" one's own experiences, feelings, or motivations on to the patient, or in this case, the perpetrator. When we make a wrong diagnosis, it's usually either due to one of the following self-defense mechanisms:

1) "Stereotyping" (saying that all people who do a certain thing have a certain diagnosis). A silly but easy to remember example of this self-defense mechanism would be: "All skinny people are on Speed or Meth"! Or, one of the stereotypes we caucasians were awful about once using like, "All black people love watermelon & steal televisions". This is not only rude and hurtful, it doesn't help anyone or anything. Stereotypes are based on our own prejudices.
2) "Projection", which is similar self-defense mechanism, but projection is the attributing your own personality or motivators onto the patient or perpetrator. An example would be: Since, the I'm very interested in sports, or "I love to compete with others", then the person "projects" that personality trait on to their patient or the perpetrator. This 2nd one is difficult to detect, unless one listens to the speaker closely. It's used to "make a doctor feel better about themself" by belittling the other person, using the very thing that motivates the doctor while the doctor actually hates himself for feeling that way. It's purely unconscious, so the doctor/detective rarely sees himself doing it.

Here's a great example of "projection", just in case there are Sleuths who are interested: My wife and I were out with another couple during medical school. My wife made a comment about how beautiful another lady's purse was. It was an expensive purse, but certainly beautiful. She merely likes well-made, beautiful things. The other medical student we were with commented, "Man, you're gonna have problems! You're wife has very expensive taste". What this rude jerk didn't understand about himself is that he not only offended me & my wife who actually has "GOOD" taste, but that it's HIM who loves expensive things. Everyone knew that about him. Projection is used when the speaker or investigator despises what is in their own hearts (they only see it unconsciously- that's why they don't know), so they "project" that distasteful personality trait on another person. It's quite common, even in every day life. Try listening for it, and you'll hear it. The problem is in knowing the speaker. Are they "stereotyping" or "projecting". That's the catch. We all knew my medical student colleague was greedy & loves money.

I hope this helps someone to understand these two self-defense mechanism better. I get verbose (has anyone noticed yet? LOL), and I have to force myself to be direct & to the point. It's merely insecurity I've lived with my whole life.

"NARCISSISM": for anyone interested (this will be a little different than the info in many criminal texts): Narcissists are extremely sensitive & have very thin skins. When you discover what the weaknesses of a narcissist are, you can devastate them often with only a few words. They put up a very thick, "GLASS" wall between themselves & everyone else (I'm not referring to the "glass wall" of schizphrenia. That's different). Narcissists often intimidate others around them in order to prevent others from saying anything that might hurt their feelings. The problem with narcissists and especially twisted SK's, is that their arrogance can be complex & unusual enough that it's difficult to determine their weak points. Breaking down a narcissist is what Detectives do in Movies/TV when they taunt the perp & get them angry to the point of breaking. Unfortunately, SK's are not like normal people, and a detective can't look for normal personality traits/motivators in the perpetrator. If they do, the SK will laugh. It proves to them that they're smarter than everyone else. As discussed in the myriad of excellent books available concerning SK's & psychology, the detective must try to think like the perpetrator, even though it's very difficult for most of us. You can't discover what's in a twisted, morbid, dastardly individual's mind by assuming they think like normal people; and by the same token, you can't discover what motivates them by projecting one's own personality traits or motivators on the killer.

That's it for the psychology lesson. Again, I didn't intend to train those of you all who are experts in this field. I'm new here. I just know psychology & psychiatry well enough to want to share what I know for those who are interested. Some of the issues in psychology are difficult to understand, just as it was for my medical student colleague, above. He didn't pass psychiatry. He's a huge "projector". (In case anyone's interested, different self-defense mechanisms like "projection" & "stereotyping", and personality traits like "narcissism" are often seen in particular types of psychiatric disorders. Just google them if you're interested. It's often interesting to discover that you can determine the personality & self-defense mechanisms of someone like a killer. For instance, "histrionic" individuals use "projection" quite often. (my friend was histrionic. Males can be histrionic, too!).

Thanks for the feedback everyone! And, let's find these horrid monsters.

Thanks Docrocker for all your insight.. A lot to chew on. Please keep it up.

And :Welcome1:
 
Just bumping this since I moved docrocker's post to this thread. :seeya:
 
Hi,

Tonight's episodes finally mention the paraphilias (though briefly). I had been waiting for the subject to come up. The "seasonal" fisherman is plausible but I highly doubt that. Could the reason this guy be a "snowbird" be due to the fact that he has a foot fetish? Traveling to see something that is objectified by the killer would make more sense that he is a "seasonal" killer. Also consider the beaches because that is where the feet in slippers or even bare, can easier be found at a place where people would be more scantily clad. The relatively warmer climates would give the killer much fuel for his imagination.
Being a sexual sadist requires that he has two or more paraphilias. I would add chronic masturbator as his second. When interviewing the "witness", did she mention any other unusual habits? Smelling his hands, touching his hair in an effeminate manor, etc.?

The targeting of younger women, especially younger mothers, tells me that he has had a disappointment with his own mother and also that she had died while he was younger. Late teens or early twenties. "Above average intelligence" as stated by the Florida profiler is highly probable. In fact, I agree with this assertion as well as the age at the time of the homicides. He would be entering into, or in his fifties by now. With a couple of exceptions his victims have been mostly white, with dirty blond or light brown hair, longish in length, mostly slender in build, very pretty but not "knockouts" as would be perceived by the public. It is also quite possible that his mother died during the warmer months as well.

I mentioned earlier that he may smell his hands. It's usually after he masturbates and/or touches his crotch. The selling of the victims bodies to make ends meet (prostitutes) tells me that his mother had many lovers which, he resents, in order to make ends meet.

Four women each time? The number of children his mother left behind (including the killer)? I'm not sure. The reason I'm not too sure is because of the staging of the bodies in Atlantic City. Maybe the feet point to where the victims committed their sins? His viewpoint that his own mother committed the same "sins".

The reason I mention his mother is because all of this is starting to look a bit Freudian. I'm baffled by the gun (used in the Florida killings). Extreme rage? Overkill? Why are the police holding out? This is where things get a bit muddy.

Even though this is a great show and good place to hone my skills by following the investigation, it's a tragic situation none-the-less. My hats off to the investigators and production staff.

LMC
 
The Unsub is picking his women very carefully, but methodically. He looks for the loners and ones with very little resistance going with him due to him looking like her own daddy who would be Mr. Right, even a Sunday School Teacher. That's what your every day Serial killer will look like and behave like until the Dr. Jeckel part comes out in him. He may have lived through a dramatic series of his life when he was younger and witness possibly his Mother being an escort at one time and that had a huge part on his Psychological being. Also if you noticed almost every one of the Victim's were facing East, it's a common practice in almost all religions that when you Bury the dead you face their Bodies to the East. So who ever he is it's possible he may be very Religious, attend a Church and be well liked in his community. Now if I were to say about where he would live my opinion, around the RosLyn Heights area or somewhere there abouts, that would place him directly in the center with easy access to all highways. Those are my thoughts. Also to add if everyone who watched the show tonight, the Law Enforcement found one victim along the road side ,but directly across from Mile Marker 24, could that be him cordially saying this is number 24 for me to the Police, why not that would be him throwing it into their face.
 
Profilers are limited to finding actions within the scope of a individuals faults in character that would lead to why an individual does what they do! What you have here are individuals who are killing outside of the realm of (rules) that would lock them into a profile. They have learned to not do what you would expect them to do if not for the sake to get away with killing then to watch what happens in the reaction they get from how they do what they do. Profilers are becoming less purposeful from all the information that has been put out to the public and to these people who use it to their advantage and are using it quite well against them, like the internet.
 
Profilers are limited to finding actions within the scope of a individuals faults in character that would lead to why an individual does what they do! What you have here are individuals who are killing outside of the realm of (rules) that would lock them into a profile. They have learned to not do what you would expect them to do if not for the sake to get away with killing then to watch what happens in the reaction they get from how they do what they do. Profilers are becoming less purposeful from all the information that has been put out to the public and to these people who use it to their advantage and are using it quite well against them, like the internet.

Pahaska, great first post :welcome4: It sounds like you may be onto something. Given that it could be an adaptive group of people as you layout so well, do you think they would be constantly grooming new recruits as well? I hope you keep sharing your ideas on this.
 
The Unsub is picking his women very carefully, but methodically. He looks for the loners and ones with very little resistance going with him due to him looking like her own daddy who would be Mr. Right, even a Sunday School Teacher. That's what your every day Serial killer will look like and behave like until the Dr. Jeckel part comes out in him. He may have lived through a dramatic series of his life when he was younger and witness possibly his Mother being an escort at one time and that had a huge part on his Psychological being. Also if you noticed almost every one of the Victim's were facing East, it's a common practice in almost all religions that when you Bury the dead you face their Bodies to the East. So who ever he is it's possible he may be very Religious, attend a Church and be well liked in his community. Now if I were to say about where he would live my opinion, around the RosLyn Heights area or somewhere there abouts, that would place him directly in the center with easy access to all highways. Those are my thoughts. Also to add if everyone who watched the show tonight, the Law Enforcement found one victim along the road side ,but directly across from Mile Marker 24, could that be him cordially saying this is number 24 for me to the Police, why not that would be him throwing it into their face.


This is super spooky great post, for a sense of how real it could be, that you impart, Pardon18 and the profile, took a couple of times of reading it just the begin to consider what you've so generously shared. Thank you and I look forward to more of your great and welcome perspective very much. Much appreciated.
 
Hi,

Tonight's episodes finally mention the paraphilias (though briefly). I had been waiting for the subject to come up. The "seasonal" fisherman is plausible but I highly doubt that. Could the reason this guy be a "snowbird" be due to the fact that he has a foot fetish? Traveling to see something that is objectified by the killer would make more sense that he is a "seasonal" killer. Also consider the beaches because that is where the feet in slippers or even bare, can easier be found at a place where people would be more scantily clad. The relatively warmer climates would give the killer much fuel for his imagination.
Being a sexual sadist requires that he has two or more paraphilias. I would add chronic masturbator as his second. When interviewing the "witness", did she mention any other unusual habits? Smelling his hands, touching his hair in an effeminate manor, etc.?

The targeting of younger women, especially younger mothers, tells me that he has had a disappointment with his own mother and also that she had died while he was younger. Late teens or early twenties. "Above average intelligence" as stated by the Florida profiler is highly probable. In fact, I agree with this assertion as well as the age at the time of the homicides. He would be entering into, or in his fifties by now. With a couple of exceptions his victims have been mostly white, with dirty blond or light brown hair, longish in length, mostly slender in build, very pretty but not "knockouts" as would be perceived by the public. It is also quite possible that his mother died during the warmer months as well.

I mentioned earlier that he may smell his hands. It's usually after he masturbates and/or touches his crotch. The selling of the victims bodies to make ends meet (prostitutes) tells me that his mother had many lovers which, he resents, in order to make ends meet.

Four women each time? The number of children his mother left behind (including the killer)? I'm not sure. The reason I'm not too sure is because of the staging of the bodies in Atlantic City. Maybe the feet point to where the victims committed their sins? His viewpoint that his own mother committed the same "sins".

The reason I mention his mother is because all of this is starting to look a bit Freudian. I'm baffled by the gun (used in the Florida killings). Extreme rage? Overkill? Why are the police holding out? This is where things get a bit muddy.

Even though this is a great show and good place to hone my skills by following the investigation, it's a tragic situation none-the-less. My hats off to the investigators and production staff.

LMC

:welcome:​

This an amazing take. Thank you for it, and I can't wait to see the two episodes from tonight to try to catch up with your thoughts above, LMC. Much appreciated
 
I think imagination is a powerful thing, I think as humans our curiosity compels us to connect the dots and try to force things to make sense, to predict whatever is predictable, and in doing so we get so focused on what you can reference something to, or what you can identify something with, that you stop focusing on the unpredictable, where the truth lies. Take Joel Rifkin for example, who grew up in upper-middle class setting, with fortunate parents, or John Bittrolff a construction worker with a wife and two sons, you couldn't predict their profile because their was nothing specifically to predict, aside from being a white male which is typical in serial killers. No prostitute parent, No prestigious profession, No criminal history, No notable Mother Issues absolutely nothing to for shadow or otherwise implicate either one a killer.

The same is true for LISK, he's likely from a middle-upper class upbringing, he's likely to be in his early 50's, and likely never married, he would likely be an introvert with little friends, he functions well in a work setting able to remain unsuspected by coworkers, he doesn't have house guests often as he doesn't really enjoy others company, he hates prostitutes because they represent the girls that never liked him in school, girls that if it weren't for money he would likely otherwise have no chance with, he knows that deep down and despises it. He feels a sense of ownership over his victims, as implicated by his degradation of Jessica Taylors Remy's Angel tattoo, its also a means of suggesting she is worthless and unworthy of love.

He likely wears glasses, and likely had a mustache at the time of murder, he likely has no tattoos and suspect him to be less than 6 feet tall potentially with brownish red hair at the time of murders, he likely speaks very soft, he likely has no criminal record and likely an only child to happily married parents, his father is likely deceased and may reside with his mother, He is a local and does not have the recourses to reside elsewhere for long periods of time. Its unlikely that his first victims have been found. He spends most of his time at home on the computer perhaps watching *advertiser censored*, and is likely a subscriber to various *advertiser censored* sites. He's getting older and he wants to kill more before his time is up, he will attempt it again in the future if he's not currently active somewhere else.
 
The Unsub is picking his women very carefully, but methodically. He looks for the loners and ones with very little resistance going with him due to him looking like her own daddy who would be Mr. Right, even a Sunday School Teacher. That's what your every day Serial killer will look like and behave like until the Dr. Jeckel part comes out in him. He may have lived through a dramatic series of his life when he was younger and witness possibly his Mother being an escort at one time and that had a huge part on his Psychological being. Also if you noticed almost every one of the Victim's were facing East, it's a common practice in almost all religions that when you Bury the dead you face their Bodies to the East. So who ever he is it's possible he may be very Religious, attend a Church and be well liked in his community. Now if I were to say about where he would live my opinion, around the RosLyn Heights area or somewhere there abouts, that would place him directly in the center with easy access to all highways. Those are my thoughts. Also to add if everyone who watched the show tonight, the Law Enforcement found one victim along the road side ,but directly across from Mile Marker 24, could that be him cordially saying this is number 24 for me to the Police, why not that would be him throwing it into their face.

I'm very tired, having stayed up most of the night. I'm having difficulty posting this with quotes, and it's so easy! Sorry: here goes again:

Very good. However, the bodies of the AC4 weren't faced to the east. Only their faces were. Even the Florida FBI profiler suggested this as a clue he was taunting detectives with concerning "the direction to his home", & I believe also possibly his business or site of killing.

The SK in both GB4 and AC4 killings is an Organized Killer. You're absolutely right. He's methodical, but all SK's choose either feeble, weak victims, or victims that are easy pickings, such as prostitutes. In the AC4, it appears that he likely accelerated his cravings to more difficult targets than prostitutes. They were all mothers of small children.

I agree completely with the religious aspect, also. Again, the majority of SK's/psychopaths intertwine scripture &/or biblical tenets into their twisted thinking. That's probably why the GB4 victims were all "wrapped very carefully in burlap", while burlap is considered "sackcloth" indicating the religious ignominy of "sackcloth & ashes". This is a Mission Killer, just the Florida Profiler and you have suggested. They were NOT placed in burlap sacks, btw. I was a little disappointed that Josh & Rachel looked only at burlap bags and stated there was no place to get them. They just weren't aware that burlap is sold everywhere in the U.S. in large rolls called "bolts". The detectives commented that the SK had "large amounts of burlap available". He didn't sew bags together, and they weren't "stuffed" in burlap bags.

I still hold with my prediction that this killer is a business owner, well-known in the community, giving him the ability to easily place his victims at ease due to local advertising of his Furniture Store, which buys Bolts of Burlap in huge quantities, or any other business that utilizes it, buying large quantities. He Is also an avid Church-goer. All those things allow him to set the victims at ease, as the police have suggested (although that's again something we can all say about SK's, since they all learn to put their victims at ease. They learn it from a very early age).

I'm really please to see your insights. Well done! Thx.
 
Hope I'm posting this in the right place, new to this case and came across this article. Sorry if already posted:


"Bright, married and has access to burlap sacks: 'Craigslist Ripper' profiled as new set of remains found

Criminologists have begun to piece together a profile of the serial killer responsible for the murder of up to 13 prostitutes in Long Island and Atlantic city.

According to experts, the man poilce are looking for is a white male in his mid 20's to mid 40's, financially secure, well spoken and drives a nice car or truck.

Able to charm his Craigslist victims into a false sense of security, he will also have access to burlap sacks as part of his job and will have been treated for poison ivy infections received as he disposed of the bodies in thick undergrowth.

[...]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...arried-access-burlap-sacks.html#ixzz4QaSEjmhZ
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Hi,

Tonight's episodes finally mention the paraphilias (though briefly). I had been waiting for the subject to come up. The "seasonal" fisherman is plausible but I highly doubt that. Could the reason this guy be a "snowbird" be due to the fact that he has a foot fetish? Traveling to see something that is objectified by the killer would make more sense that he is a "seasonal" killer. Also consider the beaches because that is where the feet in slippers or even bare, can easier be found at a place where people would be more scantily clad. The relatively warmer climates would give the killer much fuel for his imagination.
Being a sexual sadist requires that he has two or more paraphilias. I would add chronic masturbator as his second. When interviewing the "witness", did she mention any other unusual habits? Smelling his hands, touching his hair in an effeminate manor, etc.?

The targeting of younger women, especially younger mothers, tells me that he has had a disappointment with his own mother and also that she had died while he was younger. Late teens or early twenties. "Above average intelligence" as stated by the Florida profiler is highly probable. In fact, I agree with this assertion as well as the age at the time of the homicides. He would be entering into, or in his fifties by now. With a couple of exceptions his victims have been mostly white, with dirty blond or light brown hair, longish in length, mostly slender in build, very pretty but not "knockouts" as would be perceived by the public. It is also quite possible that his mother died during the warmer months as well.

I mentioned earlier that he may smell his hands. It's usually after he masturbates and/or touches his crotch. The selling of the victims bodies to make ends meet (prostitutes) tells me that his mother had many lovers which, he resents, in order to make ends meet.

Four women each time? The number of children his mother left behind (including the killer)? I'm not sure. The reason I'm not too sure is because of the staging of the bodies in Atlantic City. Maybe the feet point to where the victims committed their sins? His viewpoint that his own mother committed the same "sins".

The reason I mention his mother is because all of this is starting to look a bit Freudian. I'm baffled by the gun (used in the Florida killings). Extreme rage? Overkill? Why are the police holding out? This is where things get a bit muddy.

Even though this is a great show and good place to hone my skills by following the investigation, it's a tragic situation none-the-less. My hats off to the investigators and production staff.

LMC


I think you're digging a little too deep. I think he's killing prostitutes because they're transient. They'll get in a car with strangers. Prostitutes are often the victims of crimes like robbery, rape, and murder. They usually won't call the cops so they get away with it.

The number four probably has more to do with how much time he's spending in each place. Also, I was pretty sure there were more than 4 in Long Island.
 
Hope I'm posting this in the right place, new to this case and came across this article. Sorry if already posted:


"Bright, married and has access to burlap sacks: 'Craigslist Ripper' profiled as new set of remains found

Criminologists have begun to piece together a profile of the serial killer responsible for the murder of up to 13 prostitutes in Long Island and Atlantic city.

According to experts, the man poilce are looking for is a white male in his mid 20's to mid 40's, financially secure, well spoken and drives a nice car or truck.

Able to charm his Craigslist victims into a false sense of security, he will also have access to burlap sacks as part of his job and will have been treated for poison ivy infections received as he disposed of the bodies in thick undergrowth.

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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...arried-access-burlap-sacks.html#ixzz4QaSEjmhZ
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Thank you, magz, for posting this news from the time. So odd that she was found like a trail of savagely laid bread crumbs to the other disposal sites. Maybe due to the attention, or maybe he was in from out of the town at the time and found it too risky to return before she was found, could that be possible, whomever may have had a hand in her death?
 

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