Australia - Allison Baden-Clay, 43, Brisbane QLD, 19 April 2012 - #7

[kiwi50]

Hi EVERYONE :greetings:
I'm NEW here, so please forgive me if I mention anything previously discussed. :couch:

I just can't help wondering whether any or many of you are familiar with LACI PETERSON's case in California. :dunno:

Her husband, Scott Peterson murdered her whilst she was 8-9mths pregnant with their FIRST son, Connor :anguish:, in their kitchen on Christmas Eve (or maybe late on the 23rd), before wrapping her body up in a tarpaulin & taking it some distance away to a Bay where he had a small fishing boat. He then took her out some distance in the bay, before dumping her & their unborn baby.

Their baby was found washed up on a nearby beach first, & then some days later, Laci's hugely mutilated & decomposed body. The *advertiser censored* had chopped off 1 or both of her legs + other body parts. Absolutely DREADFUL.

You can Google LACI PETERSON & also Scott Peterson, who is obviously in prison. He actually resembles a younger GBC.

There's also a picture of their home up for sale somewhere, & it not only looks much like the BC home, but guess what, the FOR SALE sign is a 21C Estate Agency one!

BTW ~ He was having an affair & decided to get Laci out of the way!

Justice always prevails eventually ~ so let's pray that it does, sooner, rather than later in dearest Allison's case.

Love & LIGHT to one and ALL,
~Durban ~ South Africa~ :wave:

Yes remember it well, and followed it closely on the forums. Funny you should have mentioned it, a few times reading this case, i've thought of the similarities.
I recall his family came across as similar to the senior baden clays, and who could forget Scott at the candle lit vigil before Laci was found. If Laci's body had never been found I wonder if Scott would have been arrested.

 

[CJ60]

LOL!

Female, for what it's worth.

Guess I've been trying to keep my posts informative, clinical and analytical, which are sometimes considered more masculine traits for some reason. You guys just don't hear the stuff I say out loud, or that gets deleted before posting.

Bahahahahah! I had you pegged as a boy! Doctor/ Brainsurgeon - but then you wouldn't be on here as often if you were! Love your sense of humour!

 

[CJ60]

That's interesting as a side issue. I thought that they had removed the 'Meet the Team' web page to de-personalise the business for sale. Then I noticed listings were dwindling and only two salespeople were handling sales. Now I think perhaps his former associates who lent the $300,000 may want to take the rent roll and move it to another franchise in lieu of the debt. C21 Westside will disappear.

If the reps are saying they can't handle listings then the agency is definitely closing.

It throws no light on the murder case. Dismantling the business may have been a financial imperative anyway.

Actually someone said way back they thought the business went in to liquidation the week before Allison went missing - spec not fact.

 

[Berry]

His registration is SETTLE. I saw this in one photo or film clip some time back. It is a play on settling a property as in Sale of a property.

But he couldn't do it...(settle) in argument at night with his wife perhaps

 

[Humdinger]

Actually someone said way back they thought the business went in to liquidation the week before Allison went missing - spec not fact.

How very interesting! I wonder if there is a way of finding out if this is true??

 

[pudwink]

thanks Deebly. Your point #15 has been in my head the last couple of days. I have been wondering if the screams heard by residents off Rafting Ground Rd that night might have have been something unrelated, or if it was Allison. For me, the where, how and why are a little murky, but I have my own suspicions as to who. And like CJ60, I also will be thanking the QPS for their amazing work. Being a "coppers kid" myself, I know how absolutely revolting this job can be and how it affects even the hardest of police. People may think their are made of cast iron, seen everything, not fazed. This is untrue, I saw how it affected my dad (no real councelling back then). Hats off to you Det Ainsworth & co. I hope all their efforts pay off-for the Dickies and the girls

 

[CJ60]

I wore sunglasses to my own fathers funeral. At the time I didnt give a flying fridge who it offended and I still dont. People judge for anything you do so i did what I wanted at the time and coped the only way I knew how, and that was by hiding. I didnt want anyone looking at me, talking to me, feeling sorry for me. I just wanted to hide. I was just discussing it with my bf today and Im pretty sure I didnt take them off during the service either. I was the closest to my Dad out of anyone there, so if my sunnies offended anyone, who cares, thats their problem. I wasnt there to socialise, I was there for my Dad not them. Just sayin. I cannot believe people are dissecting people at a funeral, now THAT is horrid.

I am originally from the UK - sun hardly shines there! but people wore sunglasses to funerals; my dad was buried in November - Winter; no sun. People wore sunglasses to hide their grief.. I understand.

 

[willough]

You know the saying, ' Gutted ' ? It's a raw term, but think it might be almost literal in the case of the little girls

Simply, at that age especially, your mother is part of you. You are part of her. She's the big centre pole who holds up your tent of life at those ages. When you're hurt, she makes it better. When you're scared, she makes you feel safe and protected. When you wake up, it's not a real day if mum isn't there. She makes you feel proud of your accomplishments, even if no-one else rates them. She's always your friend. If you're lonely, you wait for her to come home or pick you up or give you a smile. When you're sick, you need her nearby and no-one else can make you feel as good as mum can

There are no divisions between you and mum at that age. She's with you all the time, whether or not she's physically there. She's so much a part of you, you don't even think about or question that. She's inside your chest, your heart, your thoughts

To me, Allison's girls were trying to literally hold themselves together with the crossed-arms and arms held in front of their bodies. Half of them - mum - had been ripped out. It must have felt to them as if their chests were open with the wind rushing in. The poor little girl on the ground in front of the casket in the hearse with her hands dangling helplessly showed total devastation at the loss of her mother who'd given her strength, wholeness and love

Abso-bloody-lutely Hon.......and i think you there have just touched on the reason, so many of us are truly here. The very thought that we no longer had this connection with our own kids is absolutely heart wrenching.

In my case, daughter 11 and son 7. Daughter has her head screwed on right, but SOOOOOO needs me. She needs me to cuddle, she needs me for affirmation, she needs me when things may not be right (she has a few issues with her teacher, feels he doesnt like her, feels he doesnt believe in her.....she needs me to pump her up). Son, he needs affirmation with everything. He gets cut up when anyone (even kids at school) say something about him, he doesnt like. The mum chats I have with them.....All that you say laserdisc.

Hubby..............is switched on and very proactive with the kids....But these sort of things, he pushes aside. He works his bum off and is loving to us, we are blessed. But some things, need a mom.....Just like some things need a dad.

Thanks for your post, loved it......SPOT ON LOVELY LADY.

 

[CJ60]

How very interesting! I wonder if there is a way of finding out if this is true??

I'm sure someone on here will know, so we will have an answer to your question soon!

 

[itsthevibe]

Thanks for this itsthevibe - I'm hearing you. I was just wondering, I recall very early on when the search was still on for Allison, you mentioned that you had a feeling how it was going to turn out and you didn't want to say anything at that time. I hope I'm remembering it correctly. I'm interested to know whether what happened is what you were expecting?

You have a very good memory! I can't remember exactly what I said in detail, but after being on here for almost the whole 7 threads my thoughts have evolved about what I should or should not post on here. I have thought of elaborating on what I first said but the time has never seemed right. Perhaps the time will come and I will explain more, but that might not be until a trial and verdict. I'm not sure. Anyway for those who have no idea what I'm talking about, let me reassure you I'm not withholding any helpful facts.

 

[annie46664]

I don't wish to break the rules of this AWESOME forum / community privilege etc., but on going over the records of Laci's case, which I followed from start to finish ... do please LOOK what I suddenly noted at: abcnews .go. com /US/story?id=90600&page=1 (NO gaps!) guys ....

"Baden, the former chief pathologist for New York City, said it could not be determined from the autopsy how the baby came out of Laci's body.

"It does tell us that the baby was in the womb for many months after Laci was in the water and Laci in fact protected the baby until the baby came out shortly before the bodies were found," Baden said." :book:

OMG! The guys don't only resemble one another, given their age difference in each instance, the 21C FOR SALE sign at the Peterson's home, & now this ~ the BADEN name too! :gasp:

I'm out of here before I get thrown out! :couch:
~@~ :iamashamed:

 

[itsthevibe]

Haha! I'm a girl - and I'm trying to work out who the girls and boys are and getting it horribly wrong!

I thought Greg was a boy - until I thought he/she said he/she was going to burn bra! The comedy double act I referred to a few threads back - I think are boys - but maybe not! And I'm guessing if you have a beautiful woman as an avatar - you're a girl... but then again... who knows!

wine and choccies sound good...

Luv youse all!!

 

[Neuromancer]

I'm getting the feeling the female:male ratio in here is at least 3:1

*passing chocolates & pouring wine*

I've been assuming most people in this thread are female. Not entirely sure why. I just know this whole thing resonates with me very strongly and I'm going to be filled with moral outrage until I see a sad little face (or 2) being marched off in handcuffs. Look upset for the camera this time, *advertiser censored*.

And I'm not usually the moral outrage type - more live and let live. I've never been into crime cases before, although I have read up on forensics and find them fascinating from a science/med point of view.

But there's something about this one that's personal - maybe cos I feel an element of sisterhood with Allison because of local things in common, maybe because I'm particularly interested in psychopaths and narcissists and feel the need to educate people about them (which is the actual thing that made me create an account and make my first post). Maybe because I'm incredibly pissed off to hear about yet another brilliant, capable woman's life destroyed by falling for the wrong guy, and the social expectations of 'til death do us part'. Yeah, about that...

 

[Limaes]

LOL!

Female, for what it's worth.

Guess I've been trying to keep my posts informative, clinical and analytical, which are sometimes considered more masculine traits for some reason. You guys just don't hear the stuff I say out loud, or that gets deleted before posting.

Hi NM...your posts are informative which means I should have known you were female LOL

 

[Deebly]

I don't wish to break the rules of this AWESOME forum / community privilege etc., but on going over the records of Laci's case, which I followed from start to finish ... do please LOOK what I suddenly noted at: abcnews .go. com /US/story?id=90600&page=1 (NO gaps!) guys ....

"Baden, the former chief pathologist for New York City, said it could not be determined from the autopsy how the baby came out of Laci's body.

"It does tell us that the baby was in the womb for many months after Laci was in the water and Laci in fact protected the baby until the baby came out shortly before the bodies were found," Baden said." :book:

OMG! The guys don't only resemble one another, given their age difference in each instance, the 21C FOR SALE sign at the Peterson's home, & now this ~ the BADEN name too! :gasp:

I'm out of here before I get thrown out! :couch:
~@~ :iamashamed:

We just need to be careful not to condemn people based on coincidences, appearances or associations.

Points like this may be interesting but really they mean nothing in terms of identifying the facts of this case nor the identification of the "guilty" party.

 

[itsthevibe]

You know the saying, ' Gutted ' ? It's a raw term, but think it might be almost literal in the case of the little girls

Simply, at that age especially, your mother is part of you. You are part of her. She's the big centre pole who holds up your tent of life at those ages. When you're hurt, she makes it better. When you're scared, she makes you feel safe and protected. When you wake up, it's not a real day if mum isn't there. She makes you feel proud of your accomplishments, even if no-one else rates them. She's always your friend. If you're lonely, you wait for her to come home or pick you up or give you a smile. When you're sick, you need her nearby and no-one else can make you feel as good as mum can

There are no divisions between you and mum at that age. She's with you all the time, whether or not she's physically there. She's so much a part of you, you don't even think about or question that. She's inside your chest, your heart, your thoughts

To me, Allison's girls were trying to literally hold themselves together with the crossed-arms and arms held in front of their bodies. Half of them - mum - had been ripped out. It must have felt to them as if their chests were open with the wind rushing in. The poor little girl on the ground in front of the casket in the hearse with her hands dangling helplessly showed total devastation at the loss of her mother who'd given her strength, wholeness and love

So beautifully written and so perfectly true, and just heartbreaking ...

 

[Neuromancer]

Hi EVERYONE :greetings:
I'm NEW here, so please forgive me if I mention anything previously discussed. :couch:

I just can't help wondering whether any or many of you are familiar with LACI PETERSON's case in California.

Thanks Annie - yes! Only since following this, but I remember reading there were marked similarities in husband behaviour - refused to talk to media, refused to attend vigils, called police pretty quickly (as soon as he was home) to say she'd disappeared, was referring to her as "disappeared" very early.

 

[maxi318]

Totally OT but in the video of the funeral what the heck do you guys think the man with the glasses is doing at around 0:06?? It looks really odd in fullscreen!
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/justice-for-allison-her-familys-vow-20120511-1ygrm.html

 

[Rational]

So beautifully written and so perfectly true, and just heartbreaking ...

So true, having lost my mum only a few years ago and being a mother myself, this is why this case resonates with me so much.

 

[Rational]

Totally OT but in the video of the funeral what the heck do you guys think the man with the glasses is doing at around 0:06?? It looks really odd in fullscreen!
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/justice-for-allison-her-familys-vow-20120511-1ygrm.html

I think he is one of the funeral companies staff members.