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BBM There in lies the problem with everyone who came into contact, felt unsettled, minimized their instincts, and walked away confused and wishing for the best. Horrific abuse occurs everywhere.In the nicest houses, the most affluent , middle class, or lower socio economic and struggling...

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BBM I agree. And when you watch those videos, and you keep this in mind, It is so on display and so very, very heartbreaking. I wish only the best, intense healing, and self actualization for every single one of these survivors. In my heart, I know that this is an impossible feat, but I...

(Hey fellow SW) I've seen kids removed from their homes due to hoarding, especially if there is inadequate access/hindered to food due to the hoard, unsanitary conditions that create hazards and lack of access to a place to sleep. Basically if the basic needs of the child are hindered due to...

Their torturers were taking them out in public and for posed "family photos" and they had them bathe as to not call attention to the abuse with bad hygiene? Those survivors were not outside of the home much at all in context . Their Perris neighbors had zero idea there were 13 children inside...

The term "The Banality of Evil" comes to mind. (DT)

Yes. Yes. And YES. Thank you.

And DT's mother said that "God Called On Him " to have so many children. LT was 16 years old when he signed her out of school and the police got involved. He was in his 20's. She was a child. Why is she the failure and he the passive one? That flies in the face of almost every single...

This goes beyond "traditional". This is bordering possibly on extremism / fundamentalism. There are nuances. Also, if you are a male that agrees and contributes your sperm to having 13 kids, then you do have a choice on to whether or not contribute or "leave/divorce" your family. So...

BBM But why? I ask genuinely. With what little we know, and we know that she was a sexual abuse victim according to her family, and he was a 'golden child' who has been largely excused... Why is she "lazy" and he the deferential husband that went along with it? I truly am amazed as this...

It's awful. On so many levels. I can analyze so much in these two photos.

Yeah no. In my mind, there is such thing as age appropriateness, in general, for all things, from dress to discipline. Especially when it comes to objectifying women and little girls. I was born in 72, I am a 90s girl. Not appropriate for a child in this particular context. I see it as...

I agree with you One Million Percent. Thank You. It's important that people realize that to "understand" is not equivalent to "excusing" . I too believe that LT is an untreated trauma victim raised in a patriarchal religion that she continued to pursue . It's all about "repitition...

For the record: I will never ever believe that this man was some sort of deferential accomplice. He was aggressive enough to commit sexual predation against one of his daughters on record. In fundie or hyper religious circles , the amount of children a woman bears, is a testament to the man...

Is that little one dressed in white lace "lingerie" esqe tights? REALLY?

The "graduation" is likely about as real as the Disney Trips. They were homeschooling to facilitate their abuse. They made no real effort to educate their children. All posed. All an act. All to benefit their facade of normalcy to cover for the reality of the atrocities they were...

Angles and Age... Your nose definitely changes with aging.

Turpin case: More than $400K raised for tortured children coming in from around the world https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/crime_courts/2018/01/31/turpin-shackled-perris-children-donations/1080223001/ Sorry if this has already been posted.

It was definitely reported early on that the survivors were kept "separated" from each other. Certain groups in certain bedrooms. And BT stated that LT/DT would "line" the children up by age in photographs and when "out" in public. Which was basically never, and which she was likely gathering...

No. We don't. We have : One known occasion that an "older survivor" escaped / ran away and was given a ride by a local back to her house. ( I 'cant) While in the car, this sibling asked "how do I get a drivers license" and "How do I get a job?" This was in Texas, shortly after they...